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awyeah: mornin.
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cedwards: anyone around that uses tinydns?
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mdmarco: does arp keep a local/private mirror of openbsd packages?
nesta: I doubt that
coil: never heard of one
mdmarco: any trick to installing packages? pkg_add with $PKG_PATH -> No packages available in $PKG_PATH
nesta: read the OpenBSD ports/packages section in the FAQ on the OpenBSD website
it's very simple
mdmarco: i'm pretty comfortable with it
nesta: cool, install your stuff then :)
mdmarco: $ echo $PKG_PATH
http://ftp3.usa.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.7/packages/amd64/
$ sudo pkg_add python
No packages available in the PKG_PATH
Can't find python
nesta: try
pkg_add -iv
mdmarco: i did. no verbose
nesta: see if it gives output, I rmember this issue myself
trying to recall
yeh the FAQ is annoying on this one
mh
mdmarco: i can lynx(1) that url just fine
nesta: yeh
ergh
can't remember
:/
mdmarco: and ftp(1) it just fine (the http://) changing to ftp:// it hangs
nesta: try
um
python-2.4.6p2
use the full name see if it does anything
mdmarco: no dice
oh wait
nesta: damn yeh I need to remember
mdmarco: with the full url, it works
nesta: yeh
lame
mdmarco: i guess i am spoiled running -current everywhere else
nesta: mh
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mdmarco: nesta: fml. operator error. export $PKG_PATH vs export PKG_PATH
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nesta: hehe mdmarco
you got it anyway?
mdmarco: yea. works fine now
nesta: awesome :)
mdmarco: awesome would be packages via nfs heh
nesta: unmanaged vps is what you bought :P
do any companies provide that sort of thing?
mdmarco: true
what, packages over nfs?
nesta: yeh
mdmarco: i dunno. i do it at home
i like this vps tho. i'm pretty impressed
nesta: ah okay
awesome :)
they do rock
mdmarco: i got mine as a failsafe really
i have a shell on a friend's box, but i'm trying to prevent the situation i'm in right now where i can't get to my stuff at home
awyeah: I've been pretty happy with them as well. So far, no downtime except when I reboot for freebsd updates.
mdmarco: i more or less block all ipv4 in, but ipv6 to a certain machine is ok
but, aiccu doesn't like reboots i guess, so i can't get back in
so, once i get home, i'll setup an ipsec tunnel from home to the vps
awyeah: Yeh
I'm also doing some VPNish stuff
OpenVPN.
My apartment's network is tunneled, and my parents' network is tunneled.
mdmarco: so if i can't get home, i can get to the vps, then go over the tunnel. the tunnel will be over ipv4. ipv4 at home works, but, i block it. oops
awyeah: So I can access my parents stuff from home as if it's on my network and vice-versa. Also I can access stuff on my network from the VPS as if it's local.
It's pretty neat to have those capabilities, eh?
mdmarco: i *really* want to get a little alix box at my parents and my in-laws and have that setup tunnels between all of us so we can share stuff super easily
need funding tho ha
awyeah: I'm using dd-wrt.
well, the VPS is the "concentrator"
mdmarco: or maybe an armish box if we can get this port of openbsd going
awyeah: but dd-wrt's got openvpn built into its vpn edition
mdmarco: awyeah: how much traffic are you using every month for it?
awyeah: Don't know yet, it hasn't been a month yet ;)
mdmarco: heh
awyeah: You know you can have them give you access to their cacti bandwidth monitoring softwaer
so you can check on your traffic
mdmarco: i saw the link for that article but didn't click it
awyeah: Just shoot an e-mail over to support@arpnetworks.com
Cause honestly, I don't think much traffic goes through the VPN stuff.
mdmarco: but, that was part of the question behind packages over nfs. to save bandwidth
awyeah: Also, this machine hosts web and DNS.
Don't forget though. Packages are usually fairly small and after the initial install, you won't be doing a lot.
mdmarco: i know. i was just curious =)
awyeah: yep
mdmarco: at home, i have a perl -e in cron that pulls the stems of installed packages, and downloads any updated packages for them
awyeah: Ah
mdmarco: all of them go in one place, and i have $PKG_PATH pointing to nfs where they all are
awyeah: makes sense
FreeBSD has a mechanism like that
I can do "portupgrade -a" and then just sit back and watch
mdmarco: obsd does too
awyeah: oh, so you're just making it hard on yourself? :)
mdmarco: i guess. heh. it's just a matter of setting $PKG_CACHE
but, i'd still need a way to get the stems of installed packages off each box
everything at home is {amd64,i386}-current
but 3 boxes are old. the 2 alix and a little one running on a 256m flash
upgrading them is a hassle
awyeah: yeh
well it's time for me to head home. i'll be back on later.
nesta: am joking
woops
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mdmarco: getting close to having openbsd booting on another armish device. not my work, but once this is going, i can help out hopefully
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jdoe: mother of god
ticket has been open 3 weeks
been back and forth with the dude about how to delegate rdns
fuck it, I'm tired, I'm just going to put in a ticket if I ever need to change it. This fucking guy.
(to be clear, not with arpnetworks. I was just complaining about this in here before)