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[06:29] <awyeah> mornin.
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[11:57] <cedwards> anyone around that uses tinydns?
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[12:36] <mdmarco> does arp keep a local/private mirror of openbsd packages?
[12:36] <nesta> I doubt that
[12:36] <coil> never heard of one
[12:39] <mdmarco> any trick to installing packages? pkg_add with $PKG_PATH -> No packages available in $PKG_PATH
[12:42] <nesta> read the OpenBSD ports/packages section in the FAQ on the OpenBSD website
[12:42] <nesta> it's very simple
[12:43] <mdmarco> i'm pretty comfortable with it
[12:43] <nesta> cool, install your stuff then :)
[12:47] <mdmarco> $ echo $PKG_PATH
[12:47] <mdmarco> http://ftp3.usa.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.7/packages/amd64/
[12:47] <mdmarco> $ sudo pkg_add python
[12:47] <mdmarco> No packages available in the PKG_PATH
[12:47] <mdmarco> Can't find python
[12:50] <nesta> try
[12:50] <nesta> pkg_add -iv
[12:50] <mdmarco> i did. no verbose
[12:50] <nesta> see if it gives output, I rmember this issue myself
[12:50] <nesta> trying to recall
[12:50] <nesta> yeh the FAQ is annoying on this one
[12:50] <nesta> mh
[12:51] <mdmarco> i can lynx(1) that url just fine
[12:51] <nesta> yeh
[12:51] <nesta> ergh
[12:51] <nesta> can't remember
[12:51] <nesta> :/
[12:52] <mdmarco> and ftp(1) it just fine (the http://)  changing to ftp:// it hangs
[12:52] <nesta> try
[12:52] <nesta> um
[12:53] <nesta> python-2.4.6p2
[12:53] <nesta> use the full name see if it does anything
[12:54] <mdmarco> no dice
[12:54] <mdmarco> oh wait
[12:54] <nesta> damn yeh I need to remember
[12:54] <mdmarco> with the full url, it works
[12:54] <nesta> yeh
[12:54] <nesta> lame
[12:56] <mdmarco> i guess i am spoiled running -current everywhere else
[12:58] <nesta> mh
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[13:20] <mdmarco> nesta: fml. operator error. export $PKG_PATH vs export PKG_PATH
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[13:31] <nesta> hehe mdmarco
[13:31] <nesta> you got it anyway?
[13:34] <mdmarco> yea. works fine now
[13:35] <nesta> awesome :)
[13:36] <mdmarco> awesome would be packages via nfs  heh
[13:36] <nesta> unmanaged vps is what you bought :P
[13:37] <nesta> do any companies provide that sort of thing?
[13:38] <mdmarco> true
[13:38] <mdmarco> what, packages over nfs?
[13:39] <nesta> yeh
[13:39] <mdmarco> i dunno. i do it at home
[13:39] <mdmarco> i like this vps tho. i'm pretty impressed
[13:39] <nesta> ah okay
[13:40] <nesta> awesome :)
[13:40] <nesta> they do rock
[13:40] <mdmarco> i got mine as a failsafe really
[13:41] <mdmarco> i have a shell on a friend's box, but i'm trying to prevent the situation i'm in right now where i can't get to my stuff at home
[13:41] <awyeah> I've been pretty happy with them as well.  So far, no downtime except when I reboot for freebsd updates.
[13:41] <mdmarco> i more or less block all ipv4 in, but ipv6 to a certain machine is ok
[13:42] <mdmarco> but, aiccu doesn't like reboots i guess, so i can't get back in
[13:42] <mdmarco> so, once i get home, i'll setup an ipsec tunnel from home to the vps
[13:43] <awyeah> Yeh
[13:43] <awyeah> I'm also doing some VPNish stuff
[13:43] <awyeah> OpenVPN.
[13:43] <awyeah> My apartment's network is tunneled, and my parents' network is tunneled.
[13:43] <mdmarco> so if i can't get home, i can get to the vps, then go over the tunnel. the tunnel will be over ipv4. ipv4 at home works, but, i block it. oops
[13:44] <awyeah> So I can access my parents stuff from home as if it's on my network and vice-versa.  Also I can access stuff on my network from the VPS as if it's local.
[13:44] <awyeah> It's pretty neat to have those capabilities, eh?
[13:44] <mdmarco> i *really* want to get a little alix box at my parents and my in-laws and have that setup tunnels between all of us so we can share stuff super easily
[13:44] <mdmarco> need funding tho  ha
[13:45] <awyeah> I'm using dd-wrt.
[13:45] <awyeah> well, the VPS is the "concentrator"
[13:45] <mdmarco> or maybe an armish box if we can get this port of openbsd going
[13:45] <awyeah> but dd-wrt's got openvpn built into its vpn edition
[13:45] <mdmarco> awyeah: how much traffic are you using every month for it?
[13:45] <awyeah> Don't know yet, it hasn't been a month yet ;)
[13:45] <mdmarco> heh
[13:46] <awyeah> You know you can have them give you access to their cacti bandwidth monitoring softwaer
[13:46] <awyeah> so you can check on your traffic
[13:46] <mdmarco> i saw the link for that article but didn't click it
[13:46] <awyeah> Just shoot an e-mail over to support@arpnetworks.com
[13:46] <awyeah> Cause honestly, I don't think much traffic goes through the VPN stuff.
[13:46] <mdmarco> but, that was part of the question behind packages over nfs. to save bandwidth
[13:46] <awyeah> Also, this machine hosts web and DNS.
[13:47] <awyeah> Don't forget though.  Packages are usually fairly small and after the initial install, you won't be doing a lot.
[13:47] <mdmarco> i know. i was just curious  =)
[13:47] <awyeah> yep
[13:48] <mdmarco> at home, i have a perl -e in cron that pulls the stems of installed packages, and downloads any updated packages for them
[13:48] <awyeah> Ah
[13:48] <mdmarco> all of them go in one place, and i have $PKG_PATH pointing to nfs where they all are
[13:48] <awyeah> makes sense
[13:48] <awyeah> FreeBSD has a mechanism like that
[13:48] <awyeah> I can do "portupgrade -a" and then just sit back and watch
[13:48] <mdmarco> obsd does too
[13:49] <awyeah> oh, so you're just making it hard on yourself? :)
[13:49] <mdmarco> i guess. heh. it's just a matter of setting $PKG_CACHE
[13:49] <mdmarco> but, i'd still need a way to get the stems of installed packages off each box
[13:50] <mdmarco> everything at home is {amd64,i386}-current
[13:51] <mdmarco> but 3 boxes are old. the 2 alix and a little one running on a 256m flash
[13:51] <mdmarco> upgrading them is a hassle
[14:04] <awyeah> yeh
[14:04] <awyeah> well it's time for me to head home.  i'll be back on later.
[14:45] <nesta> am joking
[14:45] <nesta> woops
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[17:40] <mdmarco> getting close to having openbsd booting on another armish device. not my work, but once this is going, i can help out hopefully
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[23:15] <jdoe> mother of god
[23:16] <jdoe> ticket has been open 3 weeks
[23:16] <jdoe> been back and forth with the dude about how to delegate rdns
[23:16] <jdoe> fuck it, I'm tired, I'm just going to put in a ticket if I ever need to change it. This fucking guy.
[23:16] <jdoe> (to be clear, not with arpnetworks. I was just complaining about this in here before)