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[06:07] <dxtr> Hmm
[06:07] <nesta> hi dxtr :)
[06:08] <dxtr> hello
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[06:15] <dxtr> Hey, up_the_irons
[06:34] <dxtr> err
[06:34] <dxtr> How come my jail isn't allowed to use sockets? :P
[06:35] <dxtr> Operation not permitted
[06:35] <dxtr> That kind of sucks
[07:08] <dxtr> Yay! Got it working
[07:13] <cedwards> dxtr: that's default behaviour, unless you allow it.
[07:14] <dxtr> cedwards: yeah?
[07:15] <dxtr> What is the default behaviour exactly? Because I set up nsd and I can access it
[07:15] <dxtr> But I can't ping stuff
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[07:15] <cedwards> jails aren't alowed to access sockets by default.
[07:15] <nesta> dxtr: are you using ezjail or standard jail?
[07:16] <dxtr> ezjails
[07:16] <cedwards> there should be very few situations where you need direct socket access inside a jail.
[07:16] <nesta> ah, yeh it's a simple systcl setting
[07:17] <nesta> sysctl
[07:18] <dxtr> cedwards: Well then :P
[07:18] <cedwards> at least I don't need socket access from any of my jails.
[07:26] <cedwards> has anyone used the zfs send/receive functions to replicate snapshots across systems?
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[07:38] <dxtr> Awesome
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[07:41] <dxtr> Yay
[07:44] <nesta> woot?
[07:44] <dxtr> I'm back \o
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[09:25] <dxtr> Is it possible to jail my mailserver and let my (local) users still get the mail without bloating it with pop3, imap or something? :p
[09:28] <BarberRonny> webmail? forwards maybe?
[09:30] <dxtr> Webmail means I'll have to bloat it with a websever
[09:30] <dxtr> webserver
[09:34] <cedwards> dxtr: lighttpd or nginx aren't too bloated
[09:39] <BarberRonny> pop3 isn't bloating up your server, its really light
[09:41] <cedwards> but pop3 sucks
[09:42] <BarberRonny> use it over ssl
[09:42] <dxtr> :D
[09:42] <dxtr> I think I'll skip jailing then
[09:44] <cedwards> I have all my mail servers in jails. What is your concern?
[09:46] <dxtr> I don't want webmail, pop3 or imap
[09:46] <dxtr> That is my concern
[09:48] <dxtr> Are there any good alternatives to SpamAssassin+
[09:50] <cedwards> I don't even bother with spamassassin. I do my filtering at the postfix level
[09:54] <dxtr> right then :)
[09:54] <nesta>  heh
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[10:10] <cedwards> looks like I got zfs send/recv working between my two hosts.
[10:15] <dxtr> \o
[10:15] <bob^^> nice!
[10:18] <cedwards> I'll need to test some automation, but I should be able to send my daily snapshots to my second host for some redundancy.
[10:19] <RandalSchwartz> it'd be nice if there was a hot spare facility that was offsite
[10:19] <RandalSchwartz> not just in the same building :)
[10:26] <cedwards> I'm getting pretty poor transfer speeds between hosts: 5.48MB/sec
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[21:09] <Lefty> cedwards: zfs send/recv is piss-slow
[21:10] <Lefty> we used to see about the same speeds on hosts that we knew were capable of 20 times that
[21:10] <Lefty> (sun thumpers connected via bonded gigabit)
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