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BeBoo_: you alive?
nesta: yep
on my iphone out in town atm
BeBoo_: i got my VPS last night :D
RandalSchwartz: cool!
nesta: awesome beboo i will be around later ifyou need any help :)
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nesta: hiya BeBoo_ :)
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nesta: hehe
*hugs*
BeBoo_: whats the command to see all the hardware? i think it's lspci on linux
Lefty: less /var/run/dmesg.boot
that's what I use
nesta: pciconf is usueful also
BeBoo_: i thought there was a command that listed all the hardware in a tree format
thats it... pciconf
nesta: ;)
BeBoo_: building my kernel :D
nesta: w00t
I am re-building my friends vps atm
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BeBoo_: how do i scroll up when using vnc to console?
mattx86: Shift+Page Up/Down should do it
BeBoo_: well, i don't have a page up/down on my macbook but i usually use Fn+Up to get Page Up... so Shift + Fn + Up but it doesn't work
mattx86: Ctrl+Shift+Up/Down arrows also seems to scroll, but line-by-line
BeBoo_: no luck for me... maybe i'll connect on PC instead
mattx86: I am testing on a local gnome-terminal though, so it could be different
nesta: PC to the rescue!
mattx86: :)
BeBoo_: grr
TightVNC doesn't like me... i type in my port and it chops off the first two number
s
had to turn on scroll lock on PC then up/down
RandalSchwartz: there's some number offsets in some of the VNC clients
some of them use 10 to mean 5910
some of them use 5910 to mean that :)
BeBoo_: ah
intersting
awyeah: hrm de drm
nesta: hi hi awyeah
awyeah: yo.
jdoe: I guess I should probably update..
nesta: to?
jdoe: I dunno, 4.7, or the current patch level I guess.
none of the problems affects me, but it's there. Shrug.
nesta: OpenBSD yeh
jdoe: yeah.
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BeBoo_: boop
IPv6Freely: hmm maybe ill keep my vps afterall
BeBoo_: :o
so i didn't get your recycled VPS, IPv6Freely ? lol
IPv6Freely: ?
BeBoo_: it was a joke from yesterday
i believe it was RandalSchwartz who said the reason i didn't have my VPS yet was because we were waiting for Garry to recycle yours
lol
IPv6Freely: oh i must have missed it
oh
BeBoo_: and i said i didn't want your broken zfs vps
lol
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IPv6Freely: lol it just needs a restore to "factory default" so i can run it normally without the zfs nonsense
nesta: ^_^
hi BeBoo_ hows the kernel ?
BeBoo_: installed =]
IPv6Freely: ill still wipe and start again since i want partitions, but ive done that a billion times. I'll just steer way clear of zfs
BeBoo_: when are you coming back to BIRC, nesta ?
nesta: w00t
oh I have forgot the address
pm it to me
IPv6Freely: my vps is still active so they havent deleted it yet
so that wasnt that hard
http://scratching.psybermonkey.net/2010/06/freebsd-how-to-format-partition.html
remove slice and index section is exactly what i needed
bob^^: freebsd is good :)
nice and easy to sort it out when it breaks
nesta: yep
IPv6Freely: yea i just wasnt sure what to google for. thats the hard part, not so much fixing it but finding the correct search terms to get you what you need
bob^^: yeah indeed
once you get the hang of stuff like that it's all good fun
normally you'll get good help in here
IPv6Freely: if i hadnt known about gpart i would have never been able to fix it
bob^^: my help would be: avoid zfs as a root partition ;)
nesta: I learned how to encrypt /home last night
that was fun
IPv6Freely: bob^^: heh thanks :)
nesta: ooh neat
bob^^: with the geom stuff nesta?
IPv6Freely: im gonna be installing qemu on my vps :) lol
nesta: bob^^: yeah I think so, geli ?
bob^^: yeah that's it :)
i think it's a geom module... very clever stuff
notice any performance issues?
nesta: not so far
bob^^: awesome
IPv6Freely: ughhhh qos
I just got a 5500+ line configuration of a Cisco 6509 that I need to decipher and rewrite. Funnnnn.....
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bob^^: hahah
that's quite some config
catos or ios?
IPv6Freely: IOS
bob^^: ios <3
IPv6Freely: Actually I only need to re-write the QoS part, but thats still probably 1000 lines
bob^^: ugh, qos :(
pita
IPv6Freely: It wouldn't be so bad if it was a router. I admit, Catalyst QoS is a weak point of mine.
I was just praying that I wouldn't get hit with Catalyst QoS on the CCIE lab.
bob^^: hehe
IPv6Freely: Luckily, I didn't get any :)
bob^^: :D
IPv6Freely: woot
8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Jul 19 02:36:49 UTC 2010
nesta: yip
I just finished a fresh one of them for someone earlier :)
BeBoo_: up_the_irons: you around for a really quick question?
IPv6Freely: now, do your own kernel ;p
nesta: he is concentrating on virtualising juniper berries
I mean routers
:>
BeBoo_: mmm berries
nesta: encrypting another /home partition now :)
IPv6Freely: BeBoo_: what for?
BeBoo_: ?
IPv6Freely: what do i need my own kernel for?
BeBoo_: custom kernels use less mem and resources
good for VPSes so you have more resources at your disposal
IPv6Freely: I wouldnt know what to remove
BeBoo_: i can send you mine, if you want
IPv6Freely: sure that'd be great
BeBoo_: 64-bit, right?
IPv6Freely: yep
nesta: I managed to get my kernel conf on my FreeBSD vps down to 90 odd lines
IPv6Freely: mkdir /root/cvsup
lolz
nesta: o_O
BeBoo_: do you have the kernel source yet, IPv6Freely ?
IPv6Freely: i dont
BeBoo_: do you have cvsup installed?
IPv6Freely: as of about 3 seconds ago, yes
nesta: you don't need it
uhg
has lots of dependencies
when you build it
:-/
just use csup
IPv6Freely: i dont build it
BeBoo_: eww
bad boy
IPv6Freely: pkg_add -r cvsup-without-gui
done.
BeBoo_: oh lord
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nesta: don't bother, bob^^
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nesta: don't bother, BeBoo_
IPv6Freely: why would i build cvsup?
BeBoo_: you have a lot to learn about FreeBSD, IPv6Freely
nesta: he does not like to fiddle with things, he just wants ZFS and juniper routers in vm's
BeBoo_: packages are a no-no in freebsd
nesta: (lol)
;)
BeBoo_: lol nesta
IPv6Freely: i dont want zfs no
but yes, i want my olive routers
why are packages a nono?
BeBoo_: because it's not built for your system
it's build for some system that *should* work with yours
IPv6Freely: ive never ever had a problem
BeBoo_: i have
never again will i ever use packages
IPv6Freely: i build things for which i need custom compile options (like Apache for example). Packages for everything else.
I dunno ive been using freebsd for years and never had an issue
nesta: w00t another /home encrypted !
:D
IPv6Freely: woot
nesta: hehe it's surpisingly easy
painless rather
IPv6Freely: If I had a reason to do it I might try
But... look what happened the last time I tried somethig new...
nesta: I do things for the knowledge
rarely have a reason
:P
yah
IPv6Freely: Oh. I don't care abotu knowledge.
nesta: your only mistake in my opinion
was giving up
IPv6Freely: I have more important things to become knowledgeable about, so I'd prefer to just have this work :)
(again, the reason I use OS X)
nesta: more important?
oh ta ta
IPv6Freely: Yes, like things I need for my career.
nesta: being on IRC every night one of them?
:)
IPv6Freely: I could use linux for a desktop and learn how to use linux.... orrrr... I could learn L3VPN in JUNOS. Tough call there...
nesta: sounds like something that a lot of different people would have different opinoions on
opinions
IPv6Freely: I agree.
mattx86: wait, what's this about juniper? you can test junos in a vm?
IPv6Freely: I'm just explaining why I have no desire to learn certain things and prefer them to "just work" so I can spend my time on my own priorities.
mattx86: err. lol
mattx86: this is outdated, but will give you a good start: http://www.3fives.com/juniper-lab-using-olive
Thats how I did my JNCIA, using that lab
mattx86: soo.. this is free and the real deal?
IPv6Freely: well its not technically legal
its not much different from using Dynamips to emulate cisco hardware
You dont own the license, and you need your own jinstall
mattx86: ah
IPv6Freely: And is obviously worthless for pushing productio traffic
mattx86: maybe, maybe not.. I wouldn't do it though
heh
nesta: looks like fun
:)
IPv6Freely: I won't be able to run a full lab on my VPS, but i can probably run a couple routers
nesta: I would have no interest though, I think
mattx86: its interesting, i agree
IPv6Freely: mattx86: if you were doing it on real hardware, maybe. In qemu, not so much.
I have it running on my lab server already ,it just kicks up a lot of heat.
Thats my "blog" btw
mattx86: IPv6Freely: there's also the virtual network switches and what not in VMware Workstation :)
IPv6Freely: the Nexus 1000V?
Or the built in crap?
mattx86: hm? I meant built-in to VMware
IPv6Freely: What about them, exactly?
mattx86: well, you can do virtual networks if I'm not mistaken
IPv6Freely: The Nexus 1000V is a Cisco product that turns your VMWare switches in to Cisco Nexus switches.
mattx86: dunno how good of one tho
IPv6Freely: Sure, but thats worthless for me.
BeBoo_: nessus
mattx86: ah, I didn't know about that either
neat :)
IPv6Freely: Word.
http://a.imageshack.us/img4/4614/screenshot20091105at115.png
thats my network lab
The server runs a full Juniper lab and a full Cisco lab
nesta: mh tom waits
IPv6Freely: http://a.imageshack.us/img269/4091/screenshot20090924at121.png and thats my cisco lab topology
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v353/7/22/80403768/n80403768_31174171_594.jpg
and thats the back of the server
BeBoo_: can you pastebin that kernel conf?
nesta: you will likely not want to change anything, IPv6Freely
if you are doing this emulation stuff
you might need lots of the options
BeBoo_: IPv6Freely: http://beboo.pastebin.com/R87vWy5w
i don't normally touch the options
i just comment out the devices that i don't have/need
nesta: well I mean 'options' generally speaking
BeBoo_: lol
sorry
nesta: :P
my fault
you are correct hehe
mattx86: IPv6Freely: good grief that's slick... and I thought my setup was awesome
IPv6Freely: lol
got me my ccie :)
mattx86: IPv6Freely: I've got a small wooden rack with a router, switch, server, rackmounted power strip and battery backup unit
that's the kind of thing I need to do
but hey, I gotta be going. bbl
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IPv6Freely: building fire alarms just went off. Oh well, back to my expense report.
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JacobWilson: does anyone know, to get an OS installed on your vps
is it as simple as finding the .iso
nesta: what OS do you want?
JacobWilson: not sure
i have a couple choices
BeBoo_: i would assume that garry would just need to mount the iso on your vps
JacobWilson: what i was thinking also, thanks
nesta: well he does not do just *any* iso
I know that he does not do Redhat stuff
or prefers not to
JacobWilson: like netbsd
solaris
i may just go back with what i had
freebsd p3
nesta: what is freebsd p3
BeBoo_: O.o
8.0-p3?
JacobWilson: yes
BeBoo_: 8.1 is out
nesta: uh 8.0 p-4 is out too
JacobWilson: oh yeah thats right
BeBoo_: who wants to stay on 8.0?
lol
onward and upward!
JacobWilson: i didnt know they released it
ive been gone a while, last time it was a beta
BeBoo_: you can always do bleeding edge and get 9.0-CURRENT
;p
lol nesta, i accidentally did that once... i got the kernel source for 9.0 and build a 9.0 kernel with 8.0 binaries
haha
uilt*
built*
nesta: :)
BeBoo_: omg
lets just say it didn't boot
nesta: yeah I jusrt scrwwed up all that wordfk
I did earlier
BeBoo_: uh oh
how?
nesta: the one with encrtypted /home
it's gone
destroyed
:-/
BeBoo_: i don't mess with that stuff
encryption
eh
nesta: oh gosh yeh
BeBoo_: never had any luck with it
nesta: the encryptiuon was fine
it was MAC/ACL stuff
and permissions
BeBoo_: ugh, i gotta get MAC goin
i forgot about that
nesta: my script had a bad line in it
BeBoo_: you haz script?
nesta: lots
:)
BeBoo_: hiiii buddddddyyyyyyy
nesta: got sick of typing all that crap out
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nesta: :)
BeBoo_: got one for MAC? i don't feel like setting it up
:D
nesta: well depends what you wanna do lol
bearing in mind I just destroyed a box with it
lool
mine is fine btw :P
BeBoo_: haha
nesta: well actually I think it was a permission
not MAC at all
I just spotted the line
the the script
BeBoo_: i was planning on this being a personal box and giving out shells to a few friends
nesta: yeah after the latest exploit for FreeBSD
the sendfile one
I was like damn
gotta check these permissions
but I messed up one line :-/
it relies on cp /bin/sh /tmp/sh so 511 /bin/sh
is one example
:)
prevents the cp
of course there is a way round it but anyhow that's for another day
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JacobWilson: no one around at this time usually?
RandalSchwartz: we're around!
JacobWilson: cool
nesta: yep!
RandalSchwartz: "you got questions, we got answers!"
nesta: heheh
BeBoo_: someone help me with getting linux compat working? I try using kldload linux and it says kldload: can't load linux: Exec format error
nesta: kernel options ;)
BeBoo_: i tried putting COMPAT_LINUX in kern conf and it says unknown option COMPAT_LINUX
O.o
nesta: hehe
BeBoo_: ah, nvm
nesta: :)
BeBoo_: COMPAT_LINUX32
lol
nesta: hehe
JacobWilson: I was just trying to get a time estimate (rough) on when my vps could be worked on
nesta: have you sent up_the_irons an email?
RandalSchwartz: it's been a day or two on the average, based on recent messages here
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JacobWilson: nesta: yes I have
I also having problems with my other vps as well
and RandalSchwartz thank you
for giving me a time est.
IPv6Freely: oh god i must have compiled in an option that included fonts...
taking for fucking ever
... apparently the freebsd handbook... wtf?
RandalSchwartz: a veritable font of knowledge!
echo WITHOUT_X11=yes >>/etc/make.conf
without x, you can't have fonts. :)
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IPv6Freely: RandalSchwartz: too late now!
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IPv6Freely: oy
RandalSchwartz: what is too late?
IPv6Freely: adding that to make.conf.. because that compile is already finished :P