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[03:43] <infrared> up_the_irons: jeeze.. you're low on stock already?
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[06:16] <toddf> up_the_irons: egads, ads, wikia I guess makes a living off spamming everyone with ads for hosting their wiki stuff
[06:17] <toddf> up_the_irons: w/out ads and w/some tie in to existing customer id's might even be a plus for hosting your own wiki.. I'd vote no ads whatever you choose ;-)
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[12:19] <awyeah> yay FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE.
[12:26] <RandalSchwartz> finally!
[12:26] <fink_> yay
[12:26] <RandalSchwartz> release early.  release often.  release completely.
[12:27] <RandalSchwartz> wait.  where do you see it announced?
[12:27] <bob^^> finally?
[12:28] <bob^^> it's been out for two days ;/
[12:28] <mike-burns> I'd be happy with just "release often" and "release completely".
[12:28] <RandalSchwartz> there's no mention on freebsd-announce
[12:28] <bob^^> and yes, release early = a bad thing imho ;)
[12:28] <mike-burns> It's still not announced on the home page of freebsd.org .
[12:28] <RandalSchwartz> was it announced on some other list?
[12:28] <bob^^> remember freebsd 5? ;)
[12:28] <schmir> We have a firewall running 4.11
[12:28] <bob^^> 4 was awesome
[12:29] <schmir> the last version I used
[12:29] <DaCa> 5 was were I gave up on FreeBSD
[12:29] <mike-burns> Geeks are the kind of people who remember individual versions of software.
[12:29] <RandalSchwartz> so how do we know it has been released?
[12:30] <bob^^> cos it's on the ftp servers...
[12:30] <RandalSchwartz> the /topic for ##freebsd still says 8.0-R-p4
[12:30] <RandalSchwartz> and how do you know that's the final release?
[12:30] <DaCa> cvstag?
[12:31] <bob^^> because it's been uploaded as 8.1-RELEASE
[12:31] <RandalSchwartz> are you sure that's not the rc?
[12:31] <bob^^> i agree there should be an announcement
[12:31] <bob^^> yes
[12:31] <bob^^> normally RC's say RC
[12:35] <fink_> are you guys so old school you won't even check the website? http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.1R/schedule.html
[12:35] <fink_> RELEASE build	09 July 2010	-	8.1-RELEASE built.
[12:35] <RandalSchwartz> I did and it said not readly yet.
[12:35] <RandalSchwartz> that's why I'm still confused :)
[12:36] <bob^^> it was kicking around on the 18th, as 8.1-RELEASE
[12:36] <RandalSchwartz> relnotes aren't ready 404 on http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/8.1R/relnotes.html
[12:36] <RandalSchwartz> that's probably why no announce yet
[12:36] <bob^^> i believe it's still spreading to mirrors
[12:36] <bob^^> that said, it's taking longer than usual to spread if that's the case
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[12:38] <nesta> 3/win3
[12:38] <RandalSchwartz> I should try upgrading my vmware image
[12:38] <RandalSchwartz> to see how many things break :)
[12:38] <bob^^> so far, so good here
[12:38] <bob^^> i was building a fresh dev box yesterday so shoved 8.1 on to try it out
[12:39] <bob^^> not had any issues so far
[12:39] <RandalSchwartz> it'd be nice if I had the release notes though
[12:39] <RandalSchwartz> so I can see what I would be concerned about
[12:39] <bob^^> i agree
[12:49] <awyeah> Colin Percival mentioned it on twitter.
[12:49] <awyeah> But he added that it hasn't been officially announced yet.
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[13:49] <up_the_irons> infrared: yeah, that server went fast b/c i had a lot of people on the pre-order list chomping at the bit to get one...
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[13:51] <up_the_irons> toddf: yeah, i'm gonna pass on wikia
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[14:41] <twiggz> Im not seeing any 8.1 isos on any of the mirrors im checking
[14:42] <twiggz> and and i think it would be uploaded to ftp.freebsd.org first eh?
[14:42] <bob^^> i got it from ftp.uk.freebsd.org twiggz
[14:42] <mike-burns> Those British with their dry sense of humor got you.
[14:43] <bob^^> that said, it's also on ftp.freebsd.org
[14:43] <twiggz> that redirects to http://aminet.net/
[14:43] <bob^^> /pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/8.1-RELEASE
[14:43] <bob^^> use an ftp client?
[14:43] <twiggz> yep
[14:43] <twiggz> its there
[14:43] <twiggz> bobbo here is right
[14:43] <twiggz> i found it
[14:43] <bob^^> :)
[14:44] <twiggz> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/8.1/FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso
[14:44] <bob^^> that's the puppy
[14:46] * twiggz thinks about freebsd-updating to 8.1 with his vps 
[14:46] <twiggz> i think ill wait.
[14:46] <bob^^> hehe
[14:46] <bob^^> i've not done that yet either :)
[14:46] <bob^^> not quite brave enough
[14:46] <twiggz> Ive used freebsd-update to update versions before...its a hell of a lot quicker and easier than from src
[14:47] <bob^^> yeah, it is good
[14:50] <DaCa> you can look at http://remotehost.co while doing it to get the warm an fuzzy feeling
[14:50] * mike-burns presses ^s, is sad that it doesn't work.
[14:54] <bob^^> hah, not seen remotehost.co before
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