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[01:36] <toddf> cwm for a change
[01:40] <bob^^> anyone upgraded their freebsd vps to 8.1 yet?
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[06:01] <nesta> is it still Beta, bob^^ ?
[06:04] <RandalSchwartz> I don't think 8.1 has released final yet
[06:04] <RandalSchwartz> and I'm sure not going to move to an rc for a production box
[06:04] <RandalSchwartz> I may even wait a month after 8.1 final
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[06:09] <nesta> yeah same here
[06:09] <nesta> so, thats a no for me,
[06:09] <nesta> bob^^
[06:09] <nesta> :P
[06:11] <bob^^> it came out yesterday
[06:11] <bob^^> well, 19th actually
[06:12] <nesta> ah okay
[06:12] <RandalSchwartz> did it?
[06:12] <RandalSchwartz> I know it was scheduled
[06:12] <RandalSchwartz> but I haven't seen a release announce
[06:13] <bob^^> indeed, no release announcement yet
[06:13] <bob^^> i'm surmising that means it hasn't reached all mirrors just yet
[06:13] <RandalSchwartz> uh - see http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.1R/schedule.html
[06:13] <bob^^> it's certainly on ftp.uk - and i installed it on a fresh box
[06:13] <RandalSchwartz> no *release build* yet
[06:13] <RandalSchwartz> that's likely an RC
[06:13] <RandalSchwartz> not the final
[06:13] <bob^^> no, it's not
[06:13] <bob^^> there's no announcement, but it's there - go take a look
[06:14] <bob^^> also
[06:14] <bob^^> server# uname -a
[06:14] <bob^^> FreeBSD server.wasteground.co.uk 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Jul 19 02:55:53 UTC 2010     root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
[06:14] <RandalSchwartz> verified by here - http://wiki.freebsd.org/Releng/8.1TODO
[06:14] <bob^^> freshly installed from downloaded ISO this morning
[06:14] <bob^^> ...sigh
[06:14] <RandalSchwartz> yeah - tht's what an RC will say
[06:14] <bob^^> siiiigh
[06:14] <RandalSchwartz> I presume the team is working from those wiki pages
[06:14] <RandalSchwartz> if not, what's the point of the wiki?
[06:14] <nesta> Last updated: 4 July 2010
[06:14] <nesta> :-/
[06:15] <bob^^> it seems stable enough ;)
[06:15] <RandalSchwartz> even still.
[06:15] <RandalSchwartz> not touching it for a month or so
[06:15] <bob^^> that page is well out of date
[06:16] <bob^^> http://www.freebsdnews.net/2010/07/19/freebsd-8-1-release/
[06:16] <bob^^> etc
[06:16] <RandalSchwartz> and yet, it's pointed to by official docs
[06:16] <RandalSchwartz> nice
[06:16] <nesta> RELEASE build	09 July 2010	-	8.1-RELEASE built.
[06:16] <nesta> RELEASE announcement	TBD	-	8.1-RELEASE press release.
[06:16] <bob^^> release candidates say that in the uname iirc
[06:16] <bob^^> it's probably just not on all mirrors just yet, so no announcement
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[14:52] <amdprophet> up_the_irons: if you just got 7 emails from james i apologize, his email client wasn't connecting with the smtp server and acted up
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[15:33] <up_the_irons> amdprophet: I'll live :)
[15:33] <amdprophet> hah, thanks :P
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[16:57] <heavysixer> amdprophet: he doesn't read emails anyway
[16:57] <heavysixer> they go straight to Devon Null head of special projects for for arp networks
[17:00] <up_the_irons> I never learned to READ <sniff>
[17:00] <up_the_irons> and all heavysixer can do is make fun of me
[17:00] <heavysixer> ZING!
[17:00] <heavysixer> ok dinner
[17:02] <fink_> lol@devon null
[17:10] <RandalSchwartz> yeah - it really works to get upset at the one person who can help you.
[17:10] <RandalSchwartz> formula for SUCCESS.
[17:13] <dxtr> RandalSchwartz: My life sucks :(
[17:13] <infrared> end it
[17:13] <dxtr> Trying to get Dancer working with lighttpd
[17:13] <dxtr> infrared: I'm considering it
[17:13] <infrared> nice
[17:13] <infrared> over IRC?
[17:13] <dxtr> I have a balcony :P
[17:14] <infrared> setup a webcam first
[17:14] <RandalSchwartz> I gave up on Dancer
[17:14] <dxtr> Yeah? Why?
[17:14] <RandalSchwartz> every time I tried something slightly interesting, it wasn't working yet
[17:14] <infrared> is that a web framework?
[17:14] <dxtr> :D
[17:14] <dxtr> I'm not getting FastCGI to work
[17:14] <RandalSchwartz> so I fell back to CatalystX::Declare
[17:15] <dxtr> Apparently it's a problem with lighttpd and plack
[17:15] <infrared> why not use catalyst
[17:15] <RandalSchwartz> that's what I did :)
[17:15] <dxtr> Feels too big for my needs
[17:15] <infrared> or Web::Light   (self plug) :D
[17:15] <dxtr> I'll try Mojolicious or something
[17:15] <RandalSchwartz> that's what I thought
[17:16] <RandalSchwartz> but I found there's a small end to it :)
[17:16] <dxtr> ?
[17:16] <dxtr> Yeah?
[17:16] <RandalSchwartz> Yeah, I never used their builder.
[17:16] <RandalSchwartz> I just wrote everything from scratch
[17:19] <infrared> i still use CGI sometimes at work
[17:19] <infrared> for the quick & dirty
[17:20] <dxtr> You're so dirty
[17:20] <infrared> i know!
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[17:57] <fink_> anybody know why this might happen? http://imgur.com/mXd59
[17:57] <fink_> i'm stumped
[17:58] <fink_> :(
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[18:03] <up_the_irons> lol a recursive template
[18:09] <dxtr> http://imgur.com/Y6lZR.jpg http://imgur.com/rCBZK.jpg http://imgur.com/X0zuJ.jpg http://imgur.com/l2gTp.jpg http://imgur.com/e09hJ.jpg http://imgur.com/S1S3U.jpg http://imgur.com/bxn5T.jpg <- The apartment I'm staying in. Does it look like someone is moving soon? :P
[18:14] <infrared> dxtr: is that porn?
[18:14] <infrared> (on the TV)
[18:14] <dxtr> Haha, wtf? :D
[18:14] <infrared> i see boobies
[18:14] <diatribes> explains the dirty laptop screen
[18:15] <dxtr> :D
[18:15] <infrared> ew... laptop on a bed.. HEAT
[18:15] <infrared> i hate laptops
[18:15] <infrared> your fridge is stocked
[18:16] <dxtr> :D
[18:16] <dxtr> I got wine, milk, booze and ketchup
[18:16] <infrared> are you hungry?
[18:16] <infrared> do you always eat out?
[18:17] <dxtr> To be honest it isn't even my apartment
[18:17] <dxtr> :)
[18:17] <dxtr> I'm kind of borrowing it (Yes, for free) from my girlfriends sister
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[18:17] <dxtr> she lives with her boyfriend
[18:17] <infrared> pics of the sister?
[18:18] <infrared> i hate apartments
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[18:19] <dxtr> infrared: https://s-hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs239.snc3/22675_242237360794_592025794_4703920_3938576_n.jpg
[18:19] <dxtr> Me and her :P
[18:19] <infrared> SWGBM?
[18:19] <infrared> SWFBM rather
[18:20] <dxtr> SWFBM?
[18:20] <infrared> safe with fiancee behind me
[18:21] <dxtr> Haha
[18:21] <dxtr> What do you think? :p
[18:21] <dxtr> What could possibly be NSFF or NSFW and include me and my *GIRLFRIENDS SISTER*
[18:22] <infrared> :D
[18:22] <norf> deez nuts?
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[18:32] <mike-burns> That apartment has more stuff in it than mine.
[18:32] <cmeiklejohn> Hahaha.
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[18:40] <dxtr> mike-burns: Cool :D
[18:42] <up_the_irons> what kind of laptop is that?
[18:43] <up_the_irons> looks kinda like lenovo, but then not
[18:43] <mike-burns> Looks like a Lenovo.
[18:43] <fink_> can i see?
[18:43] <dxtr> Lenovo n500
[18:43] <up_the_irons> wow i was kinda right
[18:55] <dxtr> I think I'll sleep now
[18:57] <Lefty> yay! just signed up for the $20 VPS
[18:57] <nesta> w00t
[18:58] * fink_ is like DYING for an arpnetworks tshirt
[18:58] <fink_> or at least coffee mug
[18:58] <fink_> some kind of schwag?
[18:58] <Lefty> how long does it usually take to get provisioned after signup? a day or two?
[18:58] <up_the_irons> Lefty: did you notice the low stock delay notice?  unfortunately, i'm waiting on more hardware, but it's almost here
[18:58] <Lefty> no, didn't see that
[18:59] <Lefty> I'm not in a huge rush, as my clients aren't beating down my door at the moment
[18:59] <up_the_irons> https://www.arpnetworks.com/order?product=vps&vps_special=1
[18:59] <up_the_irons> is it me, or does the NOTICE not appear? ;)
[19:00] <up_the_irons> Lefty: your confirmation email will also reflect the fulfillment ETA (which is currently on or before Aug. 3rd)
[19:00] <up_the_irons> i think i'll make the background color red instead of yellow
[19:01] <Lefty> Aug 3rd is just fine with me :)
[19:02] <Lefty> I totally understand the "offer a great deal, everyone rushes to take advantage, stocks get low" cycle :)
[19:02] <Lefty> ok, now when I go to the signup page, I see the yellow notice
[19:02] <up_the_irons> Lefty: cool :)
[19:03] <up_the_irons> i just made it red
[19:03] <up_the_irons> i've had a couple people say they didn't notice
[19:03] <Lefty> oh ya, that pops out much more
[19:03] <up_the_irons> cool
[19:03] <cmeiklejohn> agreed
[19:06] <Lefty> I hope to have the need to upgrade to a package with more bandwidth shortly, too
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[19:07] <Lefty> but we'll see how fast I burn through 200GB with just website traffic :)
[19:19] <up_the_irons> most people don't come close
[19:19] <up_the_irons> to host my own, or not to host my own, that is the question: http://arpnetworks.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
[19:19] <up_the_irons> i will let you guys ponder that
[19:20] <up_the_irons> time to head home
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[19:21] <diatribes> run to the hills
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[20:57] <up_the_irons> ugh, ads
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