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[07:44] <cmeiklejohn> up_the_irons: re: Eucalyptus
[07:44] <cmeiklejohn> It's interesting.
[07:45] <cmeiklejohn> Uhm, I didn't do any real extensive testing on performance, so I can't really speak on that.
[07:45] <cmeiklejohn> However, the way I saw it was a good way to get your application and systems ready for EC2 deployment, before actually doing it.
[07:45] <cmeiklejohn> I suppose that's the endgame anyway.
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[13:17] <cmeiklejohn> Anyone seen slugging performance with OpenBSD 4.7?
[13:20] <cmeiklejohn> up_the_irons: The 4.6 installs you were doing were just the generic MP kernel with mpbios disabled, right?
[13:43] <up_the_irons> cmeiklejohn: generic SP with mpbios disabled
[13:46] <cmeiklejohn> up_the_irons: Right, yeah.  I typed MP but meant SP.  I have SP installed.
[13:47] <cmeiklejohn> Well, interesting.
[13:57] <toddf> why use MP if there is only one virtual cpu? it incurs extra overhead for no gain
[13:58] <cmeiklejohn> toddf: I typed the wrong thing -- I'm running SP.
[13:59] <cmeiklejohn> Generic SP with mpbios disabled.
[14:00] <toddf> heh
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[17:49] <twiggz> Hello.
[17:50] <twiggz> I was just looking at your website. I am interested in an openbsd vps, provided that charybdis will compile on it. Can you tell me a bit about arpnetworks connection and peers?
[17:50] <twiggz>  I will settle for freebsd also.
[17:50] <infrared> i like it
[17:51] <infrared> :)
[17:51] <twiggz> Is it stable?
[17:51] <infrared> i've been a customer for a few months.. zero complaints
[17:51] <cmeiklejohn> No complaints.
[17:52] <twiggz> I run an irc network, running the parent ircd of this network....charybdis...i need to know if charybdis will compile on openbsd...if not...the freebsd vps will be more than sufficient.
[17:52] <infrared> ugh
[17:52] <infrared> packet magnets
[17:53] <twiggz> and how is the uptime?
[17:53] <twiggz> nah, my irc network is no packet magnet...its small..and just for a few friends.
[17:53] <twiggz> I also like to run a nexuiz deathmatch server.
[17:55] <mike-burns> I'm a long-time customer with one (and co-admining another) FreeBSD VPS.
[17:56] <twiggz> how soon can my order be set up?
[17:56] <mike-burns> The uptime has been great, with I think only one unscheduled downtime in the past half-year (or maybe year).
[17:56] <mike-burns> Orders are processed around midnight PST.
[17:56] <mike-burns> (At least, they were; up_the_irons are orders still processed nightly?)
[17:56] <twiggz> so my account information and vps should be set up by noon tomorrow? its 8pm CST here.
[17:57] <mike-burns> The best way to see if charybdis will run on OpenBSD is to install OpenBSD locally; that said, you can change your VPS as much as you want, basically whenever you want.
[17:57] <mike-burns> I can't make any time promises since I don't control that.
[17:58] <twiggz> i know it will run on freebsd so ill stick to the safe bet ;)
[17:58] <twiggz> openbsd is just smaller....
[17:58] <mike-burns> You should ask for OpenBSD but request that the FreeBSD ISO be left in the "CD drive" so you can re-install easily.
[17:58] <twiggz> and better in some ways
[17:59] <twiggz> i think imma do some googling and see if anyone else has compiled charybdis on openbsd.
[17:59] <twiggz> but im definately getting that vps special...no matter what OS.
[17:59] <mike-burns> Right on.
[17:59] <up_the_irons> mike-burns: yes, nightly still; sometimes there is a delay and the order confirmation email still has "24 - 48 hours" accordingly
[17:59] <cmeiklejohn> twiggz: I'll check for you
[18:00] <twiggz> cmeiklejohn: check what friend?
[18:00] <mike-burns> up_the_irons: Excellent to know.
[18:00] <cmeiklejohn> twiggz: charybdis on obsd
[18:00] <twiggz> ah, thanks. Im googling myself.
[18:01] <twiggz> I know nenolod...he maintains it on debian linux...thats what im currently running it on...on a corenetworks dedi that i help pay for..
[18:01] <twiggz> but this guy is letting to many folks have root that dont know what they are doing
[18:01] <cmeiklejohn> twiggz: I'm compiling right now to verify...
[18:02] <twiggz> im running charybdis 3.1.3
[18:02] <up_the_irons> twiggz: so yeah, if you ordered today, it'll be ready for you by tomorrow
[18:02] <twiggz> awesome.
[18:02] <twiggz> ordering now.
[18:03] <twiggz> just going to wait and see if cmeiklejohn can get chary compiled on openbsd before i decide on the OS
[18:03] <up_the_irons> i'm actually approaching low stock again, but i have more hardware on order already; should be here within a week
[18:03] <mike-burns> Wow that sold out fast!
[18:03] <up_the_irons> mike-burns: there was a rush b/c i notified everyone on the pre-order list
[18:04] <up_the_irons> mike-burns: the server was like 2/3 full in just a couple days
[18:04] <mike-burns> Ah, of course.
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[18:05] <twiggz> stalker
[18:06] <jmad980> :)
[18:06] <cmeiklejohn> twiggz: it's not compiling.. haha.  But, I think it's a amd64 issue, not a openbsd specific issue.
[18:06] <twiggz> hmm
[18:06] <cmeiklejohn> I could probably get it going, but I'm not spending anymore time investigating into it.
[18:06] <cmeiklejohn> I would go freebsd.
[18:06] <twiggz> ill stick with the freebsd i386
[18:06] <twiggz> :P
[18:06] <twiggz> thanks for trying though friend.
[18:07] <twiggz> im ordering now.
[18:07] <cmeiklejohn> as an aside, nice to see in a ircd: warning: strcpy() is almost always misused, please use strlcpy()
[18:07] <cmeiklejohn> haha
[18:08] <mike-burns> Ha.
[18:08] <mike-burns> If that warning shows, then it almost certainly hasn't been tried on OpenBSD.
[18:09] <cmeiklejohn> Hahaha.
[18:09] <cmeiklejohn> I mean, you could get it going, but it seems like something you just shouldn't be using to begin with ;)
[18:10] <cmeiklejohn> But, that definitely would be one of the reasons it's not in ports.
[18:10] <twiggz> Apparently there are no openbsd servers on freenode?
[18:10] <twiggz> lol
[18:11] <twiggz> ircd-seven is not "that much" different from charybdis.
[18:11] <twiggz> order placed.
[18:18] <cmeiklejohn> cool
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[18:39] <twiggz> you folks seem like cool peoples.
[18:40] <mike-burns> Aww, thanks!
[18:40] <twiggz> I used to use a corenetworks machine of my own and lease jails to folks to help pay for the box...
[18:41] <twiggz> jails make decent vps imo
[18:41] <twiggz> (freebsd jails)
[18:42] <twiggz> Getting pissed with corenetworks and my partner in this box now though...so I hope you guys can do a bit better..
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[19:26] <toddf> twiggz: I can haz happy
[19:26] <twiggz> in english?
[19:26] <toddf> you get more at arpnetworks with a VM than you typically get with most physical colos
[19:27] <toddf> remote video, console, reboot, soft poweroff, hard poweroff...
[19:27] <toddf> and a friggen /48 IPv6 subnet thrown in for good measure ;-)
[19:30] <twiggz> yes, i noticed the native ipv6, although i know noone that uses it...but it cant hurt to have.
[19:31] <toddf> ipv6.google.com has existed forever, and with the right v6 dns server, you can get all of google services with IPv6 addresses
[19:31] <toddf> but anyway, this is not #ipv6advocacy
[19:32] <toddf> I've idled here since I setup my VM roughly a year ago
[19:32] <toddf> have never seen major discontentment
[19:33] <toddf> some pplz have had slowness upon occasion, but that can happen if everyones cronjobs run at the same time on a given VM server, aka disk io and cpu suffer if everybody on a given VM server spikes at the same time, regardless of the VM tech *grin*
[19:34] <toddf> have seen very few discussions about that, and thats the worst thing I've seen mentioned
[19:34] <twiggz> i rarely use cron for anything.
[19:34] <twiggz> im a hands on type of fellow.
[19:34] <toddf> unix has a nightly cronjob ;-)
[19:35] <twiggz> i _myself_ dont set up cronjobs
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