#arpnetworks 2010-06-21,Mon

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dxtrhmm [06:52]
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mike-burnshmm? [06:54]
dxtrI'm bored .p
I'd like something to do
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bob^^get a job :D
anyone use unfuddle or lighthouseapp (or anythign similar?)
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cedwardsnot heard of either [07:38]
bob^^supposidely lightweight/simple bug trackers
am looking for something end-user friendly :)
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cedwardsI use flyspray, but I think it's not really maintained anymore. [07:39]
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LTredmine seems to be getting used quite a lot lately... seems reasonable from an end user point of view but I dunno how much of a pain it is to install/maintain [07:43]
cedwardsI hope you enjoy Ruby. [07:44]
bob^^yeah, i've had a look at redmine - the rails aspect of it puts me off :/ [07:44]
LTheh yeah... probably only useful if you already do rails for other stuff
trac I suppose is the other common option, but it confuses me
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cedwardssomething about Trac never quite sat right with me. I think there's too much to it. [07:47]
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bob^^yeah, i agree about trac
i used to use arctictracker, it's actually pretty good
but seems like it hasn't been touched in a couple of years which bothers me given it did have some security holes
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mike-burnsWe're switching from Lighthouse to Pivotal Tracker for everything at work, but that might not be what you want at all. [08:48]
bob^^what was the reason for moving away from lighthouse, if you don't mind me asking? [08:49]
cedwardswe use JIRA at work, which can be free for open soure projects. the new version blows though. [08:53]
bob^^i think jira's probably a bit heavyweight [08:56]
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mike-burnsJIRA is pretty heavyweight.
We moved away from LightHouse because ticket tracking doesn't follow how we really work, but story tracking does. That's why we moved to Pivotal.
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bob^^ah, makes sense :) [09:48]
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cedwardsYeah, JIRA (and java) are pigss
we're a java shop, so I'm surronded by fanbois and I can't stand it as a sysadmin
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mike-burnsWe just switched to a Java-based CI server. Seems to be working fine but luckily I'm not the (main) admin on that system. [10:08]
cedwards"we need 8+ G RAM for our ticket tracker and wiki." WTF [10:09]
bob^^jeez :/
tbh i'll probably stick with lighthouse for now, i've given it to a couple of end users to play with and they seem pretty happy
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DaCaif you haven't chosen your vcs yet, you might consider fossil-scm.org [10:14]
mike-burnsWho uses that? [10:16]
DaCasqlite? [10:18]
mhoranHuh.
We use Lighthouse.
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bob^^how do you find it mhoran ? [11:15]
jdoetrac is good for development.
milestones, wiki, svn, tickets etc. all in one.
and yeah I'll grant it can be a little 'busy' if you don't need one of the features.
... *shrug* so turn them off.
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bob^^yeah, trac was tempting
i'm thinking i'll stick with lighthouse for now - it seems a bit feature-light in places but my beta testers seem to be enjoying it
they're not necessarily the most technically proficient end users you see :)
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up_the_ironsbob^^: i use lighthouseapp at the day job, but i don't like it
cd $lunch
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bob^^too simple? [14:15]
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mhoranbob^^: It works well for our workflow.
We've got a bunch of departments all piped from the same LH account.
We use tags to differentiate between tasks, and milestones to lay out our workflow.
It's worked pretty well so far, and is significantly better than what we had before.
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up_the_ironsbob^^: it's simply slow; also, we have like 50 projects, and I can't see tickets for a particular person across all projects [15:22]
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makulusCould anyone tell me how to set the path to gnome-session for OpenBSD 4.6? [16:36]
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CRowenhi all
vps server order?
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