heh ? heh! thought you were someone else I *am* someone else. :) Are the ubuntu boxes standard kernels, or have they changed at all? pc600: can't say for sure, but I would think they are standard. the freebsd kernal is unmodified, so there should be no reason for ubuntu to be (that I can think of) virtio may be added if it isn't there by default *kernel pc600: ^ j3m - Trying to run something that broke post 2.6.23 it seems -- is it possible to upgade the whole ubuntu remotely to 9.10 or does that have a high failure rate? gotta be honest, most of us run bsd or non-standard in here Gotcha. I used to use freebsd, but ran into too much stuff that just didn't work on it (especially some game servers and lack of asterisk timing devices). That was a while ago, but I don't know, maybe things are the same. it should be fine I would imagine, and if you break it you can use VNC to remotely boot from an image of your install disc and fix most anything everything I have tried has worked exactly the same as real hardware I guess I have to figure out how to do that. I didn't know I had KVM access to it. If so, and I can mount an ISO, I don't mind nuking the thing and installing whatever I please. I think you have to open a ticket to change the boot image, by default it is left at whatever os you started with but they will generally have no problem with that, at least none that I have heard of yeah, they've been cool with it when I needed it