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jdoe: quiet in here lately.
RandalSchwartz: my brother upgraded our airport extreme while I was gone
broke my HE.net ipv6 tunnel. :)
jdoe: ... kinda weird that'd break it.
ugh, that's juuust about enough of #openbsd for me.
RandalSchwartz: no - the latest firmware disables tunnelling
the latest latest fixes it again, but they haven't backported that to my model of extreme
jdoe: oh.
... wtf what kind of extreme do you have where they're issuing firmare updates? Mine hasn't had one in forever.
RandalSchwartz: so I have to keep a downrev release
jdoe: hrm.
RandalSchwartz: right - this has been broken for a long time
so I'm glad I had the older firmware still on my laptop
can't find any place to download it
jdoe: kinda surprising they let you flash down too.
RandalSchwartz: yeah, that's nice
they warn you, of course
and re-warn you, every time you connect :)
jdoe: haha
I've always kinda wanted ipv6 from home but I've never been very impressed with the latency of he tunnels.
now I just tunnel directly to home if I want to access something there.
which isn't great, but...
cedwards: I just had my first FreeBSD new port committed. w00t.
RandalSchwartz: cool!
you are a taker *and* a giver!
jdoe: cedwards: cool, what?
cedwards: jdoe: listadmin - command line interface to Mailman's moderation queue
jdoe: I didn't write it, just built the port. :)
..still waiting on my port update of ccache30 to be commited. That one is taking longer.
jdoe: cedwards: ah, cool.
cedwards: w3m is my cli interface to mailman's moderation queue ;)
cedwards: jdoe: listadmin is so nice. You simply define the URL, lists and password(s) and run.
jdoe: there's some stuff I'd like to see in fbsd... but honestly, I'm not responsible enough to maintain it ;)
cedwards: I want to make a proper port for shellinabox (http://code.google.com/p/shellinabox/) too, but don't have the time yet.
jdoe: I want a port for "mon"
https://mon.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page
wonderfully simple monitoring.
there's a perl module in the tree for mon, but not the actual app itself.
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cedwards: strange. I just lost connection to my VPS and can't reconnect.
RandalSchwartz: mine's working ok
where does it stop on a traceroute?
cedwards: my second one works.. wonder if it got overloaded.
hmm.. swap death.
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cedwards: wonder what happened to make it swap out.
RandalSchwartz: runaway memory consumption?
or fork-bomb?
or DoS attack on something that causes new processes
cedwards: I didn't run a fork bomb, and the only other user is pretty restricted via login.conf
RandalSchwartz: DoS possibly innocent, like a slashdotting
cedwards: I was compiling.. but that shouldn't be enough to kill it (just port updates)
RandalSchwartz: did you shut down anything that might be being updated?
cedwards: ..and my sites are pretty efficient with caching. I've done 20K uniques/day without noticing.
no. I didn't shut things down pre-updates.
maybe that was it.
RandalSchwartz: yeah, check your logs
you might be thrashing re-starting things
like I have to update postgres and apache saturday... so I'll be very careful to shut everything down during compile
cedwards: these damned gettext updates are killing me.
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jdoe: cedwards: depends on the port
I've killed freebsd with php's make test :P
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up_the_irons: anyone know of a good jabber server?
Wraithan: ejabbred
that is the only jabber server
the rest are crap
er
up_the_irons: ah ok
Wraithan: ejabberd
cedwards: openfire is really fancy, but it's java and a resource whore
ejabberd is slim and efficient, but configuration can be a bitch (in comparison)
Wraithan: cedwards: and not as good as ejabberd
up_the_irons: no no no, no java :)
cedwards: we run openfire at work. it's a beast, but it's pretty and easy.
up_the_irons: cool
cedwards: i'd say go with ejabberd then.
-: cedwards works for a java shop as an SA and can't stand java.
cedwards: and the longer I work there the worse it gets.
Wraithan: SA?
up_the_irons: cedwards: my condolences
Wraithan: software architect?
up_the_irons: Wraithan: system admin
Wraithan: ah
cedwards: Wraithan: sysadmin
Wraithan: http://xkcd.com/705/
cedwards, up_the_irons: Is that you guys?
cedwards: sponsored acrobat? seasoned aristocrat?
I have that printed in my cube, yes.
mike-burns: Skilled Assassin.
cedwards: mike-burns: nice
Wraithan: We don't have cubes here :)
cedwards: I also have the three virtues printed: http://threevirtues.com/
up_the_irons: mike-burns: i like it
cedwards: I get funny looks when people read them, but it means I'm doing my job right.
up_the_irons: LOL
Wraithan: oh that xkcd is my FAVORITE
Wraithan: up_the_irons: duty calls is mine
http://xkcd.com/386/
up_the_irons: LOL
yeah that's a good one too
cedwards: there are so many classics
Wraithan: I maintain that there is at least one potential XKCD reference in every conversation
up_the_irons: "Wraithan's First Law"
Wraithan: hahah
Maybe I'll be like Godwin
cedwards: maybe
I don't want this law named after me, but I submit there is a law that 'pr0n' will be mentioned once daily in mens conversation.
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infrared: http://blog.listcentral.me/2009/06/26/perl-on-xkcd/
3 good xkcd
on perl
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