#arpnetworks 2010-06-03,Thu

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jdoequiet in here lately. [10:22]
RandalSchwartzmy brother upgraded our airport extreme while I was gone
broke my HE.net ipv6 tunnel. :)
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jdoe... kinda weird that'd break it.
ugh, that's juuust about enough of #openbsd for me.
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RandalSchwartzno - the latest firmware disables tunnelling
the latest latest fixes it again, but they haven't backported that to my model of extreme
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jdoeoh.
... wtf what kind of extreme do you have where they're issuing firmare updates? Mine hasn't had one in forever.
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RandalSchwartzso I have to keep a downrev release [10:29]
jdoehrm. [10:30]
RandalSchwartzright - this has been broken for a long time
so I'm glad I had the older firmware still on my laptop
can't find any place to download it
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jdoekinda surprising they let you flash down too. [10:31]
RandalSchwartzyeah, that's nice
they warn you, of course
and re-warn you, every time you connect :)
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jdoehaha
I've always kinda wanted ipv6 from home but I've never been very impressed with the latency of he tunnels.
now I just tunnel directly to home if I want to access something there.
which isn't great, but...
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cedwardsI just had my first FreeBSD new port committed. w00t. [10:36]
RandalSchwartzcool!
you are a taker *and* a giver!
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jdoecedwards: cool, what? [10:37]
cedwardsjdoe: listadmin - command line interface to Mailman's moderation queue
jdoe: I didn't write it, just built the port. :)
..still waiting on my port update of ccache30 to be commited. That one is taking longer.
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jdoecedwards: ah, cool.
cedwards: w3m is my cli interface to mailman's moderation queue ;)
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cedwardsjdoe: listadmin is so nice. You simply define the URL, lists and password(s) and run. [10:42]
jdoethere's some stuff I'd like to see in fbsd... but honestly, I'm not responsible enough to maintain it ;) [10:42]
cedwardsI want to make a proper port for shellinabox (http://code.google.com/p/shellinabox/) too, but don't have the time yet. [10:43]
jdoeI want a port for "mon"
https://mon.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page

wonderfully simple monitoring.
there's a perl module in the tree for mon, but not the actual app itself.
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cedwardsstrange. I just lost connection to my VPS and can't reconnect. [11:11]
RandalSchwartzmine's working ok
where does it stop on a traceroute?
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cedwardsmy second one works.. wonder if it got overloaded. [11:12]
hmm.. swap death. [11:18]
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cedwardswonder what happened to make it swap out. [11:22]
RandalSchwartzrunaway memory consumption?
or fork-bomb?
or DoS attack on something that causes new processes
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cedwardsI didn't run a fork bomb, and the only other user is pretty restricted via login.conf [11:25]
RandalSchwartzDoS possibly innocent, like a slashdotting [11:25]
cedwardsI was compiling.. but that shouldn't be enough to kill it (just port updates) [11:25]
RandalSchwartzdid you shut down anything that might be being updated? [11:25]
cedwards..and my sites are pretty efficient with caching. I've done 20K uniques/day without noticing.
no. I didn't shut things down pre-updates.
maybe that was it.
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RandalSchwartzyeah, check your logs
you might be thrashing re-starting things
like I have to update postgres and apache saturday... so I'll be very careful to shut everything down during compile
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cedwardsthese damned gettext updates are killing me. [11:37]
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jdoecedwards: depends on the port
I've killed freebsd with php's make test :P
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up_the_ironsanyone know of a good jabber server? [18:46]
Wraithanejabbred
that is the only jabber server
the rest are crap
er
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up_the_ironsah ok [18:47]
Wraithanejabberd [18:47]
cedwardsopenfire is really fancy, but it's java and a resource whore
ejabberd is slim and efficient, but configuration can be a bitch (in comparison)
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Wraithancedwards: and not as good as ejabberd [18:47]
up_the_ironsno no no, no java :) [18:47]
cedwardswe run openfire at work. it's a beast, but it's pretty and easy. [18:47]
up_the_ironscool [18:48]
cedwardsi'd say go with ejabberd then.
cedwards works for a java shop as an SA and can't stand java.
and the longer I work there the worse it gets.
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WraithanSA? [18:49]
up_the_ironscedwards: my condolences [18:49]
Wraithansoftware architect? [18:49]
up_the_ironsWraithan: system admin [18:49]
Wraithanah [18:49]
cedwardsWraithan: sysadmin [18:49]
Wraithanhttp://xkcd.com/705/
cedwards, up_the_irons: Is that you guys?
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cedwardssponsored acrobat? seasoned aristocrat?
I have that printed in my cube, yes.
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mike-burnsSkilled Assassin. [18:50]
cedwardsmike-burns: nice [18:50]
WraithanWe don't have cubes here :) [18:50]
cedwardsI also have the three virtues printed: http://threevirtues.com/ [18:51]
up_the_ironsmike-burns: i like it [18:51]
cedwardsI get funny looks when people read them, but it means I'm doing my job right. [18:51]
up_the_ironsLOL
Wraithan: oh that xkcd is my FAVORITE
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Wraithanup_the_irons: duty calls is mine
http://xkcd.com/386/
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up_the_ironsLOL
yeah that's a good one too
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cedwardsthere are so many classics [18:53]
WraithanI maintain that there is at least one potential XKCD reference in every conversation [18:53]
up_the_irons"Wraithan's First Law" [18:54]
Wraithanhahah
Maybe I'll be like Godwin
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cedwardsmaybe
I don't want this law named after me, but I submit there is a law that 'pr0n' will be mentioned once daily in mens conversation.
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infraredhttp://blog.listcentral.me/2009/06/26/perl-on-xkcd/
3 good xkcd
on perl
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