jdoe: I thought you loved me! :( man. I think xcache was killing my box. and that gettext update over the weekend sure has wreaked havoc on my ports :( poll: http://www.amazon.com/D-Link-DIR-655-Extreme-Wireless-Router/dp/B000LIFB7S/ref=pd_cp_e_1 yay/nay/alterantives? need wireless n, gigabit, and to not go to hell after 6mo lol looks decent enough to me. I need to get a new wireless router myself, although none of my devices support n all of us at work use N Wraithan: all D-Link's I had died within a year. I then got an Apple Airport Extreme, and it is going on 3+ years now up_the_irons: our building has one of those too and it works well, thought that d-link I linked has better review ratio than most of the non apple ones s/thought/though/ Wraithan: ah ok up_the_irons: I am with you, I want to get the apple one, (and i dislike apple) but boss wants to try something cheaper first, and if it fails again then I think Apple is where we are going next Funny thing is I am the only non mac guy in the office, and I want the Apple one and the mac guys are all, nah that is too expensive Wraithan: had a D-Link, Airlink, and US Robotics... 3 APs, all died within a year. Wish I just pony'd up and bought the more expensive Extreme in the beginning would have been cheaper! ;) We've had 3 linksys, a trendnet and some offbrand die already granted 2 of the linksys were used The "cheaper" ones end up being more expensive in the end, b/c you have to buy more of em yeah hah! up_the_irons: thank you I told them the guy who runs my VPS recommends the apple one and they were like oh ok and sent the office assistant out to buy one hahahaha up_the_irons: bet you didn't know you held so much power Seriously that is exactly how it went down LOL cedwards: srsly, I didn't know ;) up_the_irons: I had a D-Link DIR-635 for years :) Now I have a D-Link DIR-655 Funny thought that it was me, the one non mac guy fighting for the Apple hardware I own nothing apple, and I wanted them to get that oruter router n Opps and these guys are all iMac/MacBook/iPhone/iPad/etc I might have got a job, btw! dxtr: sweet! They will call me this Thursday or Friday about it And then I'll start next week Doing what/ Working? pfft What kind of work? Warehouse :) I'm hoping to get the forklift truck job \o I'll do it GTA style ... while I endorse the hardware quality the apple router doesn't have a web interface and since it doesn't have an OS agnostic way of configuration I hate it but after borrowing one of my coworkers macbooks we have a working setup again Wraithan: You didn't know that? :D I don't play with macs very often, my co-workers live in their world, I live in mine we learned to agree to disagree :) mm I have a macbook I have a girlfriend I have a toshiba :( I don't I'm not an apple fanboy or anything haha I'm not a girlfriend fanboy or anything i want a macbook pro and a girlfriend That's kind of incompatible Even though my girlfriend is a girlfriend and has a macbook see girls love apple Bahaha. Apparently they did some radio stuff at her school today (She's on a school where they have Radio, movie and music courses) and joked about the teachers ... and one teacher went home and cried \o/ in one year in high school we managed to cause mental breakdowns in three french teachers :/ http://www.upload3r.com/serve/010610/1275414314.jpg we used to have an Italian teacher who taught Italian, people bullied her so much that she retired :) language teachers seem to take some abuse :) hrm. Think I'm going to try out WordPress 3.0. okay http://i.imgur.com/E39ps.jpg http://i.imgur.com/h7fVl.jpg Hahaha Wow. WordPress 3.0 multi site is ... daunting. Hi setient; I was just sitting next to you while you joined. And, you know, enjoy your train ride. http://chtv.carpathiahosting.com/component/jmultimedia/?layout=default&view=media&id=29 This was relevant to my interests :) yeah thank you mang mike-burns: setient : you guys were sitting next to each other on a train? We were sitting next to each other at a hackfest, then he left to catch a train. At which point I said hello to him on IRC. nice We were talking about how awesome FreeBSD is and whatnot which, of course, lead to ARPnetworks. :) I'm currently loving OpenBSD's spamd, just set it up last night What were you using before? mike-burns: pretty standard postfix config, lot of checks for basic compliance, rbl's, dnswl mike-burns: that is new in the last 30 days; prior to that -- qmail and dspam I'm using postfix and dspam. Dspam is so underdocumented that I never know if it's working right. I'm using amavisd-new and postfix and postgrey working well enough for me mike-burns: lol trying to not use amavisd-new if I don't have to. lots of dependencies and i'd really like to stay away from spamassassin if possible. i ran it once before, and it didn't help much. dspam was so much better. I actually had better luck with spamassassin, but the dependencies are what drove me away. I'm still rocking SpamAssassin. Yeah, for those reasons it sucks. But whatever, it's good enough for me, and definitely puts a damper on spam. You know, I wish there were a "replacing SpamAssassin with dspam" tutorial. amavisd-new is spamassasin Yeah. I don't need all the features of amavisd-new, for personal use. But I've used it in production before. I just use spamd/spamc and sa-learn on the command line. fbsd fun amavis-new is not necessarily spamassassin. you can use arbitrary content checkers, but most people just use SA b/c that is how it is packaged yeah, I'm lazy fyi look into greylisting and subscribe to spam-l and just blacklist everything they tell you to blacklist aka postgrey which was mentioned above :( spam-l? I'd like to try spamd, but my postfix is in a jail and I can't figure out the additional mount required to get it working. maybe you need a sermon on mounts. :) w00-w00! :-) wtf, hit and run haha hit and run where? oh... the irc channel I thought you meant outside. :) have y'all seen the sinkhole in guatemala city? it's other-worldly Yeah! sup uptI "uptI"? I = tab completion gone wrong? "when tabs go wrong... next on fox!" If tab completion is wrong I don't want to be right. "you tab me... a bad name (bad name)" eh, no i wasn't using it. Can you pretend that you were so our jokes make sense? sure.. :) Thanks! <-crap day ;P RandalSchwartz: wonder how deep that thing is. news said it swallowed a 3 floor house, so I assume deeper than that. jdoe: thats what she said