#arpnetworks 2010-06-01,Tue

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cedwardsman. I think xcache was killing my box.
and that gettext update over the weekend sure has wreaked havoc on my ports :(
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Wraithanpoll: http://www.amazon.com/D-Link-DIR-655-Extreme-Wireless-Router/dp/B000LIFB7S/ref=pd_cp_e_1
yay/nay/alterantives?
need wireless n, gigabit, and to not go to hell after 6mo
lol
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cedwardslooks decent enough to me.
I need to get a new wireless router myself, although none of my devices support n
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Wraithanall of us at work use N [11:55]
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up_the_ironsWraithan: all D-Link's I had died within a year. I then got an Apple Airport Extreme, and it is going on 3+ years now [12:31]
Wraithanup_the_irons: our building has one of those too and it works well, thought that d-link I linked has better review ratio than most of the non apple ones
s/thought/though/
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up_the_ironsWraithan: ah ok [12:32]
Wraithanup_the_irons: I am with you, I want to get the apple one, (and i dislike apple) but boss wants to try something cheaper first, and if it fails again then I think Apple is where we are going next
Funny thing is I am the only non mac guy in the office, and I want the Apple one and the mac guys are all, nah that is too expensive
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up_the_ironsWraithan: had a D-Link, Airlink, and US Robotics... 3 APs, all died within a year. Wish I just pony'd up and bought the more expensive Extreme in the beginning
would have been cheaper!
;)
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WraithanWe've had 3 linksys, a trendnet and some offbrand die already
granted 2 of the linksys were used
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up_the_ironsThe "cheaper" ones end up being more expensive in the end, b/c you have to buy more of em [12:35]
Wraithanyeah [12:35]
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Wraithanhah!
up_the_irons: thank you
I told them the guy who runs my VPS recommends the apple one and they were like oh ok
and sent the office assistant out to buy one
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up_the_ironshahahaha [12:45]
cedwardsup_the_irons: bet you didn't know you held so much power [12:46]
WraithanSeriously that is exactly how it went down [12:46]
up_the_ironsLOL
cedwards: srsly, I didn't know ;)
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dxtrup_the_irons: I had a D-Link DIR-635 for years
:)
Now I have a D-Link DIR-655
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WraithanFunny thought that it was me, the one non mac guy fighting for the Apple hardware
I own nothing apple, and I wanted them to get that oruter
router
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dxtrn
Opps
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Wraithanand these guys are all iMac/MacBook/iPhone/iPad/etc [12:53]
dxtrI might have got a job, btw! [12:53]
Wraithandxtr: sweet! [12:53]
dxtrThey will call me this Thursday or Friday about it
And then I'll start next week
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WraithanDoing what/ [12:54]
dxtrWorking? [12:54]
Wraithanpfft
What kind of work?
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dxtrWarehouse :) [12:58]
I'm hoping to get the forklift truck job o
I'll do it GTA style
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Wraithan... while I endorse the hardware quality
the apple router doesn't have a web interface and since it doesn't have an OS agnostic way of configuration I hate it
but after borrowing one of my coworkers macbooks we have a working setup again
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dxtrWraithan: You didn't know that? :D [14:36]
WraithanI don't play with macs very often, my co-workers live in their world, I live in mine
we learned to agree to disagree :)
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aumm I have a macbook [14:36]
dxtrI have a girlfriend [14:36]
WraithanI have a toshiba
:( I don't
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auI'm not an apple fanboy or anything haha [14:37]
dxtrI'm not a girlfriend fanboy or anything [14:37]
bob__i want a macbook pro
and a girlfriend
bob__ is greedy
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dxtrThat's kind of incompatible
Even though my girlfriend is a girlfriend and has a macbook
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bob^^see
girls love apple
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dxtrBahaha. Apparently they did some radio stuff at her school today (She's on a school where they have Radio, movie and music courses) and joked about the teachers
... and one teacher went home and cried
o/
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bob^^in one year in high school we managed to cause mental breakdowns in three french teachers :/ [14:40]
dxtrhttp://www.upload3r.com/serve/010610/1275414314.jpg [14:44]
auwe used to have an Italian teacher who taught Italian, people bullied her so much that she retired [14:44]
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bob^^:)
language teachers seem to take some abuse :)
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awyeahhrm. Think I'm going to try out WordPress 3.0. [15:42]
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dxtrokay
http://i.imgur.com/E39ps.jpg
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http://i.imgur.com/h7fVl.jpg
Hahaha
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awyeahWow. WordPress 3.0 multi site is ... daunting. [17:09]
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mike-burnsHi setient; I was just sitting next to you while you joined.
And, you know, enjoy your train ride.
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AndrewBCAndrewBC plays the jaws theme at mike-burns [17:57]
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dxtrhttp://chtv.carpathiahosting.com/component/jmultimedia/?layout=default&view=media&id=29
This was relevant to my interests :)
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setientyeah
thank you mang
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up_the_ironsmike-burns: setient : you guys were sitting next to each other on a train? [18:57]
mike-burnsWe were sitting next to each other at a hackfest, then he left to catch a train.
At which point I said hello to him on IRC.
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up_the_ironsnice [18:59]
mike-burnsWe were talking about how awesome FreeBSD is and whatnot which, of course, lead to ARPnetworks. [18:59]
up_the_irons:)
I'm currently loving OpenBSD's spamd, just set it up last night
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mike-burnsWhat were you using before? [19:00]
up_the_ironsmike-burns: pretty standard postfix config, lot of checks for basic compliance, rbl's, dnswl
mike-burns: that is new in the last 30 days; prior to that -- qmail and dspam
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mike-burnsI'm using postfix and dspam. Dspam is so underdocumented that I never know if it's working right. [19:02]
RandalSchwartzI'm using amavisd-new
and postfix
and postgrey
working well enough for me
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up_the_ironsmike-burns: lol
trying to not use amavisd-new if I don't have to. lots of dependencies and i'd really like to stay away from spamassassin if possible. i ran it once before, and it didn't help much. dspam was so much better.
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mike-burnsI actually had better luck with spamassassin, but the dependencies are what drove me away. [19:06]
mhoranI'm still rocking SpamAssassin.
Yeah, for those reasons it sucks.
But whatever, it's good enough for me, and definitely puts a damper on spam.
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mike-burnsYou know, I wish there were a "replacing SpamAssassin with dspam" tutorial.
mike-burns searches for that, finds it immediately.
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RandalSchwartzamavisd-new is spamassasin [19:07]
mike-burnsYeah. [19:07]
mhoranI don't need all the features of amavisd-new, for personal use.
But I've used it in production before.
I just use spamd/spamc and sa-learn on the command line.
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setientfbsd fun [19:09]
up_the_ironsamavis-new is not necessarily spamassassin. you can use arbitrary content checkers, but most people just use SA b/c that is how it is packaged [19:09]
RandalSchwartzyeah, I'm lazy [19:10]
setientfyi look into greylisting and subscribe to spam-l and just blacklist everything they tell you to blacklist
aka postgrey which was mentioned above
:(
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up_the_ironsspam-l? [19:13]
cedwardsI'd like to try spamd, but my postfix is in a jail and I can't figure out the additional mount required to get it working. [19:14]
RandalSchwartzmaybe you need a sermon on mounts. :) [19:20]
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syminetw00-w00! :-) [19:23]
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up_the_ironswtf, hit and run [19:23]
cmeiklejohnhaha [19:24]
RandalSchwartzhit and run where?
oh... the irc channel
I thought you meant outside. :)
have y'all seen the sinkhole in guatemala city?
it's other-worldly
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mike-burnsYeah! [19:25]
mrbitsup uptI [19:39]
RandalSchwartz"uptI"? [19:45]
mike-burnsI = tab completion gone wrong? [19:45]
RandalSchwartz"when tabs go wrong... next on fox!" [19:47]
mike-burnsIf tab completion is wrong I don't want to be right. [19:48]
RandalSchwartz"you tab me... a bad name (bad name)" [19:48]
mrbiteh, no i wasn't using it. [19:50]
mike-burnsCan you pretend that you were so our jokes make sense? [19:50]
mrbitsure..
:)
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mike-burnsThanks! [19:50]
mrbit<-crap day
mrbit goes back tow ork
;P
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jdoeRandalSchwartz: wonder how deep that thing is.
news said it swallowed a 3 floor house, so I assume deeper than that.
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ballenjdoe: thats what she said [22:15]
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