[00:00] *** dxtr has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [00:10] *** Guest61583 has joined #arpnetworks [00:19] *** Guest61583 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [00:31] *** dxtr_ has joined #arpnetworks [00:37] *** dxtr_ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [00:37] *** dxtr_ has joined #arpnetworks [04:30] *** bob^^ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [04:30] *** bob^^ has joined #arpnetworks [05:44] *** nerdd_ has joined #arpnetworks [05:46] *** nerdd has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [09:11] *** cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [11:04] *** dxtr_ is now known as dxtr [11:05] *** dxtr has quit IRC (Changing host) [11:05] *** dxtr has joined #arpnetworks [12:19] *** zelut has joined #arpnetworks [13:51] *** AndrewBC has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [13:53] *** AndrewBC has joined #arpnetworks [14:06] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [14:21] Uhm [14:22] For some reason my have had a flappy connection today [14:27] *** schmir has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [14:31] whoa [14:31] count me in on the topic.. I gotta goto work for a few hrs though.. bbl [14:38] mrbit: Give the work to me instead :D [14:38] I'm gonna go unemployed in a couple of week [14:39] Can't even pay my phone bill then (Wich btw is the only expense I've got except for the VPS) [14:39] *** zelut has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [14:39] that kind of sucks [14:39] Looking for a job like crazy [15:00] dxtr, do you do any python web developmen? [15:00] t* stupid t key is cutting out on me [15:00] AndrewBC: Depends on how much you pay me [15:01] Hah. Usually people say that when it would require a lot [15:05] If you live in the USA, have had enough development experience enough to get started immediately on a Django project, and don't mind working for a shitty rate (15 USD or so an hour doesn't seem to phase my bosses, but 20+ does) as a remote contractor on oDesk, then I sure could use you. [15:05] *** cmeiklejohn has joined #arpnetworks [15:05] Hi cmeiklejohn . [15:06] hi mike-burns [15:06] I don't live in the USA, have no development experience on a Django project, and I don't mind working for a shitty rate (15 USD or so an hour doesn't seem to phase your bosses, but 20+ does) as a remote contractor on oDesk, when do I start? [15:07] AndrewBC: you can find Python guys with Django experience willing to work for $15 / hr? [15:07] Heh, well if I were in charge the non-USA would be no problem, but they want NDAs for everyone and are unable or unwilling to deal with complications from other countries' laws regarding NDAs [15:07] *** cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Changing host) [15:07] *** cmeiklejohn has joined #arpnetworks [15:07] up_the_irons, no, that's the problem ;) I'm the only one stupid enough to do it [15:08] AndrewBC: LOL [15:09] Honestly, I'd pick up Python and stuff to work $15/h right now [15:10] Because 1) I'm graduating in a couple of weeks and won't recieve any more study allowance after that 2) I need money [15:11] I wish I could help you. :/ That whole NDA thing is stupid. [15:11] what the hell is NDA? :D [15:11] Not that you wouldn't undergo rigorous scrutiny from me if you suddenly lived in the USA ;P [15:11] Non-disclosure agreement [15:11] basically legally binding contract on mutual secret-keeping [15:12] well, not mutual actually, I suppose [15:12] but you get the gist [15:12] hehe [15:13] The fun part is that the big secret they're wanting to protect is just an unimplemented idea with no specifications [15:13] Haha [15:14] If they didn't make me sign an NDA first, I'd have known there was no secret to begin with! [15:14] * AndrewBC coughs [15:14] So I'll be coming up with a crazy algorithm so they can patent it I guess... [15:14] They'd probably not hire me if it's a really secret secret [15:15] I'm apparently a SOCIALIST! [15:15] hahah [15:15] According to someone I spoke to I live in a communist hellhole :( [15:16] I don't wanna live in a communist hellhole [15:16] What? Where do you live? [15:16] Sweden [15:17] Haha, yeah that's a hellhole alright. *rolls eyes* [15:18] I don't think I'd call Sweden communist [15:18] to me communism is oppressively enforced [15:18] We were discussing NDAs at work the other day (we have a ton of clients) and realized that not one of the NDAs we've signed has been for a secret idea. [15:19] lol [15:19] Yeah, NDAs are basically a feel-good mechanism these days [15:20] "If I tell you this, you won't tell anyone, right? Cross your heart and hope to die?" [15:20] I wonder if that there is no secret is itself a secret and thus I may have breached my NDA [15:20] Then we discussed it more and realized that none of our successful clients came to us with an NDA. Pure coincidence, but with a large enough number for it to be an interesting coincidence. [15:21] Ouch [15:21] Heh, I'm sure your project will be great, no worries. [15:21] if you guys happen to get a job for me I'll be glad to take it, btw :D [15:21] Who would like a swede in their team? [15:22] I code C, C++ and perl [15:22] Hahah, thanks for trying, mike. :P [15:22] dxtr: Are you an experienced or enthusiastic Rails developer willing to move to Boston? [15:22] experienced OR enthusiastic?! [15:22] Experienced = full time employee, enthusiastic = full-time intern. [15:22] Nice loophole there for the unexperienced [15:23] heh [15:23] mike-burns: Will you be giving me a 100Mb connection? Because I'm not that eager to downgrade [15:23] dxtr: If you're willing to live in a suburb, yes. [15:24] I live in a suburb now. Wanna see? :) [15:24] I can google map it! [15:24] AndrewBC: It's basically the realization of the "what is OO not a good task for?" interview question---if the interviewee is enthusiatic about Rails they clearly don't have enough experience! [15:25] mike-burns, hah. Nice. [15:25] (The analogy with that interview question is: if they're so enthusiastic about OO that they can't list what it's bad at, they clearly don't have enough OO experience.) [15:25] yep [15:26] http://tinyurl.com/2dbd773 [15:26] That's a great interview question [15:26] Opps wrong [15:26] I'm gonna yoink that [15:26] *** kurome has joined #arpnetworks [15:26] http://bit.ly/cUeDzn [15:26] Please do! [15:26] There [15:26] That's where I live [15:27] That is indeed a suburb. [15:27] Actually it is [15:27] If you were sarcastic [15:27] I wasn't. [15:28] At least we've got 100Mb connections \o [15:28] mike-burns: I've only had to sign NDAs with Very Large Companies (tm)(r)(c) and companies that have been burned by employees/contractors before. [15:28] Yeah it's easier to change infrastructure in a less populated area. I'm stuck on DSL in the heart of Boston; great location, crap service. [15:29] jdoe: Ah, those NDAs make sense. [15:29] We get NDAs from Web startups who read on the Web that it's a good idea. [15:30] *** kurome has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [15:31] I'd like some kind of work actually :/ [15:31] I can drive forklift trucks! [15:32] Kind of hard to do that at distance [15:32] But still [15:32] mike-burns: that's not unreasonable, having to actually sue could kill a small company. Shrug. [15:32] granted, I agree, there's no point if the info's not secret in the first place. [15:32] Yeah. [15:33] Yeah [16:10] i saw a namehighlist but not where and my ears are burnin [16:11] :P [16:11] what's going on [16:11] eyes rather [16:11] Yay! [16:11] I got money! [16:11] My study allowance! [16:11] that's always good! [16:11] ^5 [16:11] ehh, that was lil gay [16:11] heh [16:11] anyway [16:11] whats up? [16:11] someone call? [16:13] ok.. i must be blind or its cleared the buffer.. if ya need something mobilemail is mrbit@epbfi.com [16:15] Would we need you for something specific? [16:17] :) [16:25] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [16:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [16:37] yeah ^--up there i said i saw where my name had been highlighted with my term config [16:41] Right [16:44] http://www.hostdime.com/web-hosting/vps/ [16:44] Hmm [16:44] Check their VPS.3 solution [16:44] 1536MG of Memory [16:45] 1536MG!!!! [16:50] damn [16:58] btw, that email was bunk man [16:58] thats for emergencies only [16:58] heh [16:58] bbl [17:09] *** cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [17:16] mrbit: Just wanted to tease you ; [17:16] ;) [17:21] hehe,i tnoiced [17:21] its cool [17:21] just use it for rael needs plz [17:21] l:P [18:19] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [18:29] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [18:29] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [19:05] *** cmeiklej1hn has joined #arpnetworks [19:08] *** cmeiklej1hn is now known as cmeiklejohn [19:10] *** baklava has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [19:50] *** baklava has joined #arpnetworks [19:58] *** nerdd has joined #arpnetworks [20:00] *** nerdd_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [21:22] *** hsbt has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:22] *** hsbt_ has joined #arpnetworks [23:26] *** Wraithan has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [23:36] *** Wraithan has joined #arpnetworks