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dxtr: Uhm
For some reason my have had a flappy connection today
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mrbit: whoa
count me in on the topic.. I gotta goto work for a few hrs though.. bbl
dxtr: mrbit: Give the work to me instead :D
I'm gonna go unemployed in a couple of week
Can't even pay my phone bill then (Wich btw is the only expense I've got except for the VPS)
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dxtr: that kind of sucks
Looking for a job like crazy
AndrewBC: dxtr, do you do any python web developmen?
t* stupid t key is cutting out on me
dxtr: AndrewBC: Depends on how much you pay me
AndrewBC: Hah. Usually people say that when it would require a lot
If you live in the USA, have had enough development experience enough to get started immediately on a Django project, and don't mind working for a shitty rate (15 USD or so an hour doesn't seem to phase my bosses, but 20+ does) as a remote contractor on oDesk, then I sure could use you.
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mike-burns: Hi cmeiklejohn .
cmeiklejohn: hi mike-burns
dxtr: I don't live in the USA, have no development experience on a Django project, and I don't mind working for a shitty rate (15 USD or so an hour doesn't seem to phase your bosses, but 20+ does) as a remote contractor on oDesk, when do I start?
up_the_irons: AndrewBC: you can find Python guys with Django experience willing to work for $15 / hr?
AndrewBC: Heh, well if I were in charge the non-USA would be no problem, but they want NDAs for everyone and are unable or unwilling to deal with complications from other countries' laws regarding NDAs
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AndrewBC: up_the_irons, no, that's the problem ;) I'm the only one stupid enough to do it
up_the_irons: AndrewBC: LOL
dxtr: Honestly, I'd pick up Python and stuff to work $15/h right now
Because 1) I'm graduating in a couple of weeks and won't recieve any more study allowance after that 2) I need money
AndrewBC: I wish I could help you. :/ That whole NDA thing is stupid.
dxtr: what the hell is NDA? :D
AndrewBC: Not that you wouldn't undergo rigorous scrutiny from me if you suddenly lived in the USA ;P
Non-disclosure agreement
basically legally binding contract on mutual secret-keeping
well, not mutual actually, I suppose
but you get the gist
dxtr: hehe
AndrewBC: The fun part is that the big secret they're wanting to protect is just an unimplemented idea with no specifications
dxtr: Haha
AndrewBC: If they didn't make me sign an NDA first, I'd have known there was no secret to begin with!
-: AndrewBC coughs
AndrewBC: So I'll be coming up with a crazy algorithm so they can patent it I guess...
dxtr: They'd probably not hire me if it's a really secret secret
I'm apparently a SOCIALIST!
AndrewBC: hahah
dxtr: According to someone I spoke to I live in a communist hellhole :(
I don't wanna live in a communist hellhole
AndrewBC: What? Where do you live?
dxtr: Sweden
AndrewBC: Haha, yeah that's a hellhole alright. *rolls eyes*
I don't think I'd call Sweden communist
to me communism is oppressively enforced
mike-burns: We were discussing NDAs at work the other day (we have a ton of clients) and realized that not one of the NDAs we've signed has been for a secret idea.
AndrewBC: lol
Yeah, NDAs are basically a feel-good mechanism these days
"If I tell you this, you won't tell anyone, right? Cross your heart and hope to die?"
I wonder if that there is no secret is itself a secret and thus I may have breached my NDA
mike-burns: Then we discussed it more and realized that none of our successful clients came to us with an NDA. Pure coincidence, but with a large enough number for it to be an interesting coincidence.
AndrewBC: Ouch
mike-burns: Heh, I'm sure your project will be great, no worries.
dxtr: if you guys happen to get a job for me I'll be glad to take it, btw :D
Who would like a swede in their team?
I code C, C++ and perl
AndrewBC: Hahah, thanks for trying, mike. :P
mike-burns: dxtr: Are you an experienced or enthusiastic Rails developer willing to move to Boston?
AndrewBC: experienced OR enthusiastic?!
mike-burns: Experienced = full time employee, enthusiastic = full-time intern.
AndrewBC: Nice loophole there for the unexperienced
heh
dxtr: mike-burns: Will you be giving me a 100Mb connection? Because I'm not that eager to downgrade
mike-burns: dxtr: If you're willing to live in a suburb, yes.
dxtr: I live in a suburb now. Wanna see? :)
I can google map it!
mike-burns: AndrewBC: It's basically the realization of the "what is OO not a good task for?" interview question---if the interviewee is enthusiatic about Rails they clearly don't have enough experience!
AndrewBC: mike-burns, hah. Nice.
mike-burns: (The analogy with that interview question is: if they're so enthusiastic about OO that they can't list what it's bad at, they clearly don't have enough OO experience.)
AndrewBC: yep
dxtr: http://tinyurl.com/2dbd773
AndrewBC: That's a great interview question
dxtr: Opps wrong
AndrewBC: I'm gonna yoink that
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dxtr: http://bit.ly/cUeDzn
mike-burns: Please do!
dxtr: There
That's where I live
mike-burns: That is indeed a suburb.
dxtr: Actually it is
If you were sarcastic
mike-burns: I wasn't.
dxtr: At least we've got 100Mb connections o
jdoe: mike-burns: I've only had to sign NDAs with Very Large Companies (tm)(r)(c) and companies that have been burned by employees/contractors before.
mike-burns: Yeah it's easier to change infrastructure in a less populated area. I'm stuck on DSL in the heart of Boston; great location, crap service.
jdoe: Ah, those NDAs make sense.
We get NDAs from Web startups who read on the Web that it's a good idea.
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dxtr: I'd like some kind of work actually :/
I can drive forklift trucks!
Kind of hard to do that at distance
But still
jdoe: mike-burns: that's not unreasonable, having to actually sue could kill a small company. Shrug.
granted, I agree, there's no point if the info's not secret in the first place.
mike-burns: Yeah.
AndrewBC: Yeah
mrbit: i saw a namehighlist but not where and my ears are burnin
:P
what's going on
eyes rather
dxtr: Yay!
I got money!
My study allowance!
mrbit: that's always good!
^5
ehh, that was lil gay
heh
anyway
whats up?
someone call?
ok.. i must be blind or its cleared the buffer.. if ya need something mobilemail is mrbit@epbfi.com
dxtr: Would we need you for something specific?
:)
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mrbit: yeah ^--up there i said i saw where my name had been highlighted with my term config
dxtr: Right
http://www.hostdime.com/web-hosting/vps/
Hmm
Check their VPS.3 solution
1536MG of Memory
1536MG!!!!
mrbit: damn
btw, that email was bunk man
thats for emergencies only
heh
bbl
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dxtr: mrbit: Just wanted to tease you ;
;)
mrbit: hehe,i tnoiced
its cool
just use it for rael needs plz
l:P
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