#arpnetworks 2010-05-25,Tue

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cedwards	figured out my listen-on-v6 issue. I had !localnets, yet I was querying from my second VPS in the same range.	[04:44]
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dxtr	cedwards o	[06:34]
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awyeah	blech. I haet it when I f*ck up my boot loader.	[08:24]
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awyeah	quiet today.	[12:19]
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RandalSchwartz	"yeah ... a bit TOO quiet... "	[12:45]
cedwards	cedwards gets the chills.	[12:50]
dxtr	I've written 9 pages now about what one should think of when creating a network for a mid-sized company And I'm not done yet o I'm hoping this will make me pass the course	[12:53]
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jdoe	jdoe twiddles thumbs and waits for OpenSolaris 2010.03	[14:16]
RandalSchwartz	openOraclelaris ?	[14:26]
jdoe	haha. right.	[14:27]
dxtr	Wtf is this crap I'm about to write an essay on? OCTAVE? And no, It isn't GNU Octave Wikipedia doesn't even have an article on it	[14:30]
RandalSchwartz	then it doesn't exist, or isn't of relevance to nerds	[14:31]
dxtr	exactly Thing is it's a nerd course IT-coordination	[14:32]
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dxtr	My second cousing thinks Computer Engineering and Chemical Engineering sounds boring !!	[14:35]
Aila	hi can anyone lend me a hand, i can't seem to get my reverse dns working... i'm running bind9	[14:35]
dxtr	And Master of Science in Engineering too! RandalSchwartz: Let's do a ritual and sacrifice my second cousin	[14:35]
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RandalSchwartz	reverse dns? has it been delegated to you? do you have sensible master files? do you have an offsite slave as well?	[14:40]
Aila	yes it's been delegated to me i have master files no offsite slave	[14:41]
RandalSchwartz	are the parent NS records correct? wait - I should ask what the problem is, I guess. :)	[14:43]
Aila	well nslookup 174.136.101.162 gives error ** server can't find 162.101.136.174.in-addr.arpa: SERVFAIL that's ns1.nullbnc.com which has a reverse set for it	[14:45]
RandalSchwartz	lemme see so 101.136.174.in-addr.arpa is served by arp are you sure the delgation is in place?	[14:48]
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dxtr	101.136.174.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN SOA ns1.arpnetworks.com. gdolley.arpnetworks.com. 1004 28800 7200 604800 3600 :D	[14:49]
RandalSchwartz	yeah - this is a problem - 174.101.136.174.in-addr.arpa is an alias for 174.160-175.101.136.174.in-addr.arpa. Host 174.160-175.101.136.174.in-addr.arpa not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)	[14:49]
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RandalSchwartz	it's delegated to an alias that doesn't exist might be your problem, might be ARPs	[14:50]
up_the_irons	jdoe: you're a solaris fan?	[14:50]
RandalSchwartz	email support	[14:50]
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up_the_irons	Aila probably didn't set up the zone name right, even though I tell everyone the zone name in advance.	[14:52]
bob^^	reverse dns is confusing if you're new to it all my solution: force everyone to read DNS and BIND before allowing them on the internet	[14:52]
cedwards	that reminds me, I'd like to get reverse setup as well. up_the_irons: email to support@ for delegation?	[14:53]
up_the_irons	cedwards: yup	[14:53]
RandalSchwartz	oop... gone before this darn it if they ask a question, they Must Stay (tm).	[14:54]
cedwards	up_the_irons: what information do you need in the support request? just my name server(s)?	[14:54]
up_the_irons	cedwards: IPs and PTR records required; or if you want delegation, your name servers. As always, include the VPS UUID so it is easy for me to find :)	[14:55]
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Aila	sorry RandalSchwartz, freenode kicked me off soo host 174.136.101.162 Host 162.101.136.174.in-addr.arpa not found: 2(SERVFAIL)	[14:57]
cedwards	up_the_irons: sent. thanks.	[14:58]
RandalSchwartz	... it's delegated to an alias that doesn't exist ... might be your problem, might be ARPs	[14:58]
Aila	http://pastebin.com/07svA1tv	[14:58]
RandalSchwartz	... email support that's what I said after you left did you understand what I pasted before? ARP owns 101.136.174 and apparently they provide 174.101.136.174 which redirects to probably something you need to provide	[14:58]
Aila	i got this in email when they delegated my ipvs block So just name your zone "160-175.101.136.174.in-addr.arpa" and proceed to set up your PTRs normally.	[15:00]
RandalSchwartz	ahh yes... 160-175.101.136.174.in-addr.arpa name server ns2.nullbnc.com. 160-175.101.136.174.in-addr.arpa name server ns1.nullbnc.com. those are you?	[15:00]
Aila	yes	[15:00]
RandalSchwartz	are you serving that domain	[15:00]
Aila	ye	[15:00]
RandalSchwartz	apparently, you aren't providing 174 in there you should fix that	[15:00]
Aila	yea i know one sec	[15:00]
RandalSchwartz	yeah - no SOA for Host 160-175.101.136.174.in-addr.arpa not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) if I can't get an SOA for it, I'm not going to get records either do you have a master file for that, and are you announcing it? your port 53 is open, at least. :) so's port 22. good luck with that. RandalSchwartz re-ports ssh routinely now	[15:01]
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Aila	;)	[15:07]
RandalSchwartz	so are you diagnosing the problem?	[15:07]
Aila	here are my configs http://pastebin.com/EjiVEZRs i don't see what i'm doing wrong	[15:09]
RandalSchwartz	I'm not getting that SOA from there are you sure it has re-read your amster? master? ahh - I do see the soa now says "refused" might be a permissions things	[15:11]
Aila	ah try again, i just restarted bind	[15:14]
RandalSchwartz	are you passing both tcp and udp 53?	[15:15]
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Aila	yes 174.136.101.174 is defined in interfaces so not sure the prob there	[15:16]
RandalSchwartz	I dunno either, but I gotta go	[15:18]
Aila	ok cya	[15:18]
jdoe	up_the_irons: I have a love/hate thing with Solaris. I respect it, I want to like it, but since I don't know it particularly well it's a painful experience.	[15:20]
dxtr	jdoe: I read "I want to be like it"	[15:21]
jdoe	up_the_irons: I love ZFS though, and since I don't trust FBSD's implementation (anecdotal experiences with similar setups to mine went poorly) I went with opensolaris. dxtr: sure, I'll take Larry's yacht and billions of billions :P	[15:21]
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jdoe	... anyway, so far it hasn't fucked me too badly :P	[15:21]
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up_the_irons	jdoe: ah i c	[15:22]
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dxtr	Uhm.. What can one do from stopping unauthorized people from plugging in to my (wired) network and using it? I don't see it :p That's a question in my assignment Doesn't say wired - but it doesn't say wireless either	[16:17]
up_the_irons	dxtr: you could filter based on MAC address. Only authorized MAC addresses pass traffic through the switch. there are other ways google it ;)	[16:19]
jdoe	dxtr: PoE. Just make sure it's a lot of P oE.	[16:20]
dxtr	Wouldn't one need a really expensive switch for that? :P	[16:20]
jdoe	naw, just a beefy power cable, a knife and some duct tape...	[16:21]
dxtr	I was asking up_the_irons :)	[16:24]
jdoe	I know, but my answer was better.	[16:26]
up_the_irons	dxtr: i think a cisco 2924XL could do it, which is like $20 used these days	[16:26]
dxtr	Cool	[16:28]
jdoe	pretty sure it can. you might not want the XL though, isn't that the 2U one?	[16:30]
dxtr	isn't there like WPA but for wired? :D	[16:30]
jdoe	ipsec plays nice with ipv6, so ... sure. is it more trouble than it's worth? oh fuck yeah :P	[16:32]
dxtr	So basically the only thing I've got is to filter MAC addresses and lock in the switches? :P	[16:34]
up_the_irons	jdoe: there is a 2U version of the XL, but the majority are 1U	[16:36]
jdoe	ah. I used to have the 2U one.	[16:38]
up_the_irons	probably with an "FX" port (Fiber, but only 100 Mbps ;)	[16:38]
jdoe	two iirc	[16:38]
up_the_irons	yeah two	[16:38]
jdoe	been a while. Thing was a heavy piece of shit :P	[16:38]
up_the_irons	lol	[16:39]
dxtr	Hm, kan pf filter my mac address+	[16:40]
jdoe	yeah, I've got two 3550s next to me now with the jumbo gbics. At least I hope they're gbics and not two giant 100mbit ports :P	[16:40]
up_the_irons	pf can do anything actually i dunno. ebtables on Linux can do MAC filtering.	[16:40]
dxtr	And one thing; Let's say I'm really obsessed with just letting some people access the network Wouldn't it be possible to first filter MAC addresses in the switch - but to let people connect to the internet they must connect to an openvpn server within the network And that vpn have its own subnet And firewall is only allowing that subnet to access the net so to speak That would make it encrypted and safe ... right? :)	[16:45]
DaCa	you might also want to look into authpf	[16:51]
dxtr	Hey, thanks for the tip I actually might start using that	[16:53]
up_the_irons	dxtr: yeah sounds about right	[16:54]
dxtr	FUCK YEAH! I'm kind of done with this course Are there any good pdf readers for Linux?	[17:02]
DaCa	epdfview, which is evince without the gnome bloat	[17:03]
dxtr	Awesome Thank you I'd like an ncurses based pdf viewer :P	[17:05]
DaCa	ps2ascii foo.pdf \| less	[17:11]
dxtr	cool	[17:16]
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jasey	ok up_in_irons who the fuck designed your site it's like 2001 took a shit and it came out that shit is fucking awful can you please update it? because it is really a disgrace i'm from EFnet from #sexytime my name on there is jase and i think your site is shit do you loves it, honeybitch? jasey blows a sugarkiss bye baby	[17:19]
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jasey	sorry i forgot to post my pic this is what i look like http://i46.tinypic.com/6qeebo.jpg bye sugarniggers	[17:22]
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up_the_irons	LOL	[17:25]
dxtr	Wat?	[17:25]
aem	hahah	[17:25]
up_the_irons	jasey	[17:25]
dxtr	up_the_irons: He's your ex? ;)	[17:25]
up_the_irons	i hope not	[17:25]
dxtr	haha do you know what sucks? I got an A in a programming course that I just found out I already got an A in ... Is that normal? :P	[17:25]
jdoe	up_the_irons: disgrunted former customer? :P	[17:36]
up_the_irons	jdoe: don't think so, probably random troll	[17:37]
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AndrewBC	silly internet monsters	[17:46]
dxtr	What's the point of following a list on twitter? Doesn't show up on the front page anyway	[17:49]
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dxtr	http://twitter.com/IPv4Countdown :D	[17:56]
up_the_irons	dxtr: hah nice! and that's not necessarily how many IPs are available in your region. who knows when ARIN will run out if i sell out a few more servers, i'll have to submit another request to ARIN	[18:06]
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dxtr	up_the_irons: pwnd :D How many have you got now? In total	[18:20]
up_the_irons	2 /21's and a /20 so equivalent to a /19	[18:21]
dxtr	cool What do a subnet that size cost? :)	[18:23]
up_the_irons	https://www.arin.net/fees/fee_schedule.html $2250 per year	[18:26]
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dxtr	Cool Wtf. End users?	[18:29]
RandalSchwartz	this is going to be a close game... LAL vs PHX	[18:29]
up_the_irons	end users can request IPs, yes	[18:29]
RandalSchwartz	1.5 spread for LA, 220.5 for the over/under (!)	[18:29]
dxtr	up_the_irons: That's kind of awesome :p I'll get an /18 block when I get a job o	[18:30]
up_the_irons	dxtr: it's not all that easy though	[18:30]
dxtr	Bummer I'll have to bribe my ISP too?	[18:30]
RandalSchwartz	ipv4 exhasution is coming soon	[18:30]
dxtr	RandalSchwartz: Nowai :)	[18:31]
up_the_irons	http://twitter.com/IPv4Countdown	[18:31]
RandalSchwartz	you'll have to buy from the highest bidder that's why I got my /28 now	[18:31]
up_the_irons	yep LOL	[18:32]
RandalSchwartz	I won't need most of them for a year or two but I don't want to not have, or need to renumber	[18:32]
up_the_irons	man, I should put that on my order page, "Get them now, before they run out!"	[18:33]
dxtr	haha Talk about advertisement "Get your ipv4 address here before they run out!"	[18:33]
RandalSchwartz	if you could even get a machine now. :) or do you have that back online?	[18:33]
AndrewBC	hint hin t	[18:33]
dxtr	I seriously spoke with a guy yesterday who didn't believe the address' would run out for at least 10 years	[18:34]
RandalSchwartz	so he's seriously crazy	[18:34]
dxtr	And that we wouldn't start using ipv6 within that period because "we'd have to update almost every single network card"	[18:34]
RandalSchwartz	RandalSchwartz . o O (network card?) comcast is already starting to deliver v6 to homes	[18:34]
AndrewBC	oh is that a thought bubble? that's cute	[18:35]
RandalSchwartz	I'm part of a pilot program	[18:35]
dxtr	Because ipv6 addresses are 64 bit that mac address' are too! (Right? ;))	[18:35]
RandalSchwartz	4 over 6 may be the new tunnel :)	[18:35]
dxtr	And old, unupdated, network cards can only handle 32 bit mac addresses (Like todays... Right? ;)) I have no idea what he was talking about. I just ignored him after a while I think he was on dope	[18:36]
RandalSchwartz	network cards have no idea of v4 or v6 v4 and v6 are not layer 2 it's all layer 3	[18:36]
up_the_irons	RandalSchwartz: haha, machine will come soon, almost got everything in order	[18:36]
dxtr	I said that too, but he said "Exactly! And most network cards are layer 1!", I proved him wrong and said something about ISA cards	[18:37]
up_the_irons	RandalSchwartz: ChinaNet also is doing a ton of IPv6, and they have an IPv4 decommission plan already they claim by 2016, they will no longer route IPv4	[18:37]
dxtr	My isp doesn't even have a plan to test IPv6 yet :D They're too busy digging down fiber everywhere	[18:38]
RandalSchwartz	layer 1? voltage? :)	[18:38]
up_the_irons	there's gonna be some cheappie IPv6 tunnel software that'll hit Windows machines, just you watch companies try to sell that "See more of the Internet than you could before!"	[18:38]
dxtr	Why not just use sixxs or he.net? :P	[18:39]
up_the_irons	those are for technical users i'm talking the masses	[18:39]
dxtr	Fuck the masses!	[18:39]
RandalSchwartz	well - thats' why comcast is hitting the massses	[18:39]
dxtr	That's kind of my motto "Don't like that my website looks the same in Opera and IE6!? FUCK YOU!"	[18:39]
RandalSchwartz	comcast is "the" network for a large part of broadband america	[18:40]
dxtr	Don't like that my website doesn't look the same* RandalSchwartz: Gotta suck to have to rely on so few ISPs in such a developed country	[18:40]
RandalSchwartz	we're hardly dveloped :)	[18:41]
dxtr	Compared to Sweden? :D	[18:41]
up_the_irons	ooO, found another big netblock to ban, owned by: http://delivery.net/ up_the_irons bans their /22	[18:45]
AndrewBC	yay email marketing	[18:46]
dxtr	Haha	[18:46]
AndrewBC	larger penis, please	[18:47]
dxtr	I blocked 'em too!	[18:49]
up_the_irons	if anyone is interested in my compilation over the past couple weeks: http://pastie.org/private/xiqsjmww4jlmxeiqlrwbaa	[18:50]
dxtr	o	[18:50]
up_the_irons	I use this file as follows (postfix): smtpd_client_restrictions = ... check_client_access cidr:/etc/postfix/rejections_cidr ...	[18:51]
dxtr	I'm using pf ;)	[18:51]
up_the_irons	nice	[18:51]
dxtr	I'm currently blocking every single part of the swedish government too Both at home and on my vps :D	[18:52]
cedwards	up_the_irons: what are you using to compile the list? hopefully not manual log parsing.	[18:53]
up_the_irons	cedwards: the spam i receive :)	[18:53]
cedwards	up_the_irons: ohh, you actually get spam huh :)	[18:53]
up_the_irons	i just look at the headers	[18:53]
cedwards	cedwards doesn't remember the last spam he got.	[18:53]
up_the_irons	cedwards: yeah some still get through so to weed those out, i look at the headers and see if I can find a marketing company behind it. i usually can	[18:53]
cedwards	as i mentioned, my postfix config is pretty strict plus postgrey, zen.spamhaus.org, spf policy.. it seems to catch all of it.	[18:54]
up_the_irons	cedwards: what do you use for spf policy? cedwards: i don't think i'm going to do grey listing, because of the mail farm problem and I don't like delays in my email	[18:55]
cedwards	let me grab my config.. (my primary MX runs Debian stable) up_the_irons: the delays aren't that bad, and the deay is configurable	[18:56]
up_the_irons	cedwards: but i use most of the other techniques available to me	[18:56]
dxtr	I use SpamAssassin + zen.spamhaus.org	[18:56]
up_the_irons	damn, your pastebin post expired	[18:56]
dxtr	That catches all of it	[18:56]
cedwards	postfix-policyd-spf-python package	[18:56]
RandalSchwartz	I use zen + greylist	[18:57]
up_the_irons	the thing i don't like about spamassassin is it sucked so bad when i used to run it like 3 years ago. i had switched to dspam which worked SOOOOOOOO much better. but now I don't have the patience for "training" i may have to give spamassassin another try RandalSchwartz: greylist? cedwards: ah i c	[18:57]
RandalSchwartz	postgrey	[18:57]
dxtr	up_the_irons: I'm even daring deleting my spam directly :D	[18:58]
up_the_irons	RandalSchwartz: ah ok	[18:58]
dxtr	because I ran it a couple of weeks - got some spam but never a false hit So I'm thinking "What the hell!"	[18:58]
RandalSchwartz	you need to whitelist with grey though otherwise, some big ISPs lose and from there, you need to run SA or something SA doesn't hit often here, but when it does, it is	[18:59]
cedwards	http://pastebin.com/QRpyvexf - master.cf	[18:59]
up_the_irons	i have a few spam trap addresses, and i'm currently trying to think of something that could tie in spam I get to them, to OpenBSD's spamd / pf, somehow, so I can just block known spammers in real time. surely someone must have already done this :)	[19:00]
RandalSchwartz	I used to do that	[19:00]
cedwards	check_policy_service unix:private/policyd-spf in main.cf	[19:00]
up_the_irons	cedwards: thanks	[19:00]
RandalSchwartz	I had "if anyone offends me, their IP is blocked for two hours" and offense had many levels including triggering spamtraps in fact, my setup was a model for the spam fighting cabal especially my high-MX trap whcih I haven't bothered with yet	[19:00]
jdoe	up_the_irons: if you like living dangerously, deliver the spamtraps to a perl script (.forward or an alias I guess) and have it extract the ip	[19:01]
up_the_irons	what does an spf check even do? I'm not familiar with SPF records that much	[19:01]
jdoe	spf says "these hosts can send mail from this domain"	[19:01]
cedwards	sorry about the slow pastes. i'm on my first-gen eeepc	[19:01]
up_the_irons	RandalSchwartz: high-MX trap?	[19:01]
RandalSchwartz	you cannot block any IP for longer than two hours though since legit mail is likely also trying to get through but two hours is enough to stop most zombies	[19:01]
cedwards	up_the_irons: yeah. in DNS you define the domains/IP mail is allowed to come from.	[19:02]
up_the_irons	jdoe: i c	[19:02]
cedwards	up_the_irons: if a mail server is checking SPF (sender policy framework), and the incoming says domain.tld but doesn't match the definition, it's blocked.	[19:02]
up_the_irons	cedwards: but will an spf check ever deny legit mail?	[19:02]
RandalSchwartz	it might my accountant needs to send foo@stonehenge.com and they send from their ISP	[19:02]
up_the_irons	jdoe: yeah, writing my own script to parse IPs is the last resort	[19:03]
cedwards	up_the_irons: I haven't seen it. if the servers are configured properly.	[19:03]
RandalSchwartz	so if anyone really noticed stonehenge.com SPF, it'd fail	[19:03]
jdoe	up_the_irons: it's a bad idea.	[19:03]
RandalSchwartz	you should just use it as part of a score	[19:03]
up_the_irons	RandalSchwartz: mmm... that's kinda not good RandalSchwartz: ah ok	[19:03]
jdoe	up_the_irons: consider DKIM instead.	[19:03]
dxtr	By the way guys, speaking of e-mai e-mail	[19:03]
RandalSchwartz	not a good/bad boolean	[19:04]
dxtr	How come I can't mail to Hotmail from my domain? They end up in the spam folder :/	[19:04]
cedwards	i've found most places don't bother with it (yet?)	[19:04]
RandalSchwartz	you still write to hotmail? who the hell uses that? other than spammers and windows users :)	[19:04]
dxtr	My girlfriend :)	[19:04]
RandalSchwartz	"same thing"	[19:04]
dxtr	I could perhaps send a mail to someone and let them check the header to see what IP it comes frmo Could it be an SPF problem?	[19:05]
jdoe	up_the_irons: spf is more like a white/blacklist, dkim just says "I sent this email" ... so it's more for establishing trust.	[19:05]
RandalSchwartz	windows is a pretty good virus-loading platform	[19:05]
up_the_irons	jdoe: dkim looks interesting	[19:05]
cedwards	if you've configured your SPF definition properly, I don't see it causing problems. should just stop spoofing the from domain.	[19:06]
dxtr	Oh, SPF is an actual DNS thing Cool :D	[19:07]
jdoe	up_the_irons: yeah, and plugs nicely into sendmail/postfix. I've never actually filtered on it, but the BIG BOYS like incoming email more if it's DKIM signed. and since I still want to email people at hotmail/gmail/yahoo occasionally...	[19:07]
cedwards	did ya'll know you can filter your gmail by language?	[19:09]
RandalSchwartz	offensive language?	[19:09]
cedwards	i used to get tons of russian and chinese spam. i applied basically if:chinese -> trash, and it's no more. RandalSchwartz: spoken language. spanish, english, russian, etc	[19:09]
RandalSchwartz	people speak russian?	[19:10]
up_the_irons	hehe	[19:10]
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RandalSchwartz	only if they're spies	[19:11]
cedwards	cedwards suppresses a 'in soviet russia' joke.	[19:12]
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jdoe	routing go boom again?	[19:13]
mhoran_	Looks like it.	[19:13]
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up_the_irons	W.T.F.	[19:14]
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mhoran_	Oh, there it is.	[19:14]
jdoe	jdoe BLAMES up_the_irons	[19:15]
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up_the_irons	Mzima dies AGAIN	[19:16]
mhoran	Damn.	[19:16]
up_the_irons	They stopped sending me routes at 12:30AM this morning Had it fixed by like 1:30PM	[19:16]
dxtr	Uhm.. To add an SPF record I'd do something like: dxtr.cc. IN SPF "v=spf1 a mx -all"	[19:16]
mhoran	Yeah, I noticed something this morning.	[19:16]
dxtr	?	[19:16]
up_the_irons	now appears I am still getting routes, BUT THEY ARE NOT PASSING TRAFFIC	[19:16]
mhoran	That sucks.	[19:16]
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up_the_irons	Well, I sent off an email to Global Crossing today	[19:17]
mhoran	Word.	[19:17]
up_the_irons	I think I'll also revive my discussion with Level3 :)	[19:17]
RandalSchwartz	damn routes	[19:17]
cedwards	dxtr: at a glance that looks aout right	[19:17]
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RandalSchwartz	damn trafifc it should all Just Work	[19:17]
mhoran	Man, they've been pretty stable up to now, up_the_irons ? This is all since the merger/takeover/whatever it was?	[19:18]
dxtr	cedwards: Awesome :)	[19:18]
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up_the_irons	mhoran: this is all since yesterday :)	[19:18]
cedwards	dxtr: because i have to relay_host through my isp, i have to include their mx in my spf too	[19:19]
up_the_irons	mhoran: so yeah, i figure the takeover has something to do with it. some people do a takeover well, some others day, "Let's 'reorganize' and 'integrate' this into our network", and then they blow it all up	[19:19]
mhoran	Yeah.	[19:19]
cedwards	cedwards: not optimal, but it's better than nothing.	[19:19]
dxtr	cedwards: talking to yourself?	[19:20]
mhoran	Har har.	[19:20]
up_the_irons	that happens to me sometimes	[19:20]
cedwards	dxtr: erg. yes cedwards curses this damned eeepc 701 keyboard	[19:20]
dxtr	cedwards: To do that one would do "v=spf1 a mx mx:mail.isp.tld -all" ? Or add one more SPF? add another	[19:21]
cedwards	dxtr: let me look at mine	[19:21]
dxtr	No! Look at mine instead ;)	[19:22]
cedwards	dxtr: v=spf1 a mx include:xmission.com ~all	[19:22]
dxtr	You see what I did? I made a homoerotic joke Is xmission your isp? That's a horrible name	[19:22]
cedwards	dxtr: it is. they are an awesome isp though. dxtr: the ceo is an old geek. comes to user group meetings and everything.	[19:24]
dxtr	We have ISPs that are named "The Broadband Company", "Broadband2", "Bahnhof" and stuff The first two are translated :P	[19:24]
cedwards	static IPs are company policy. they support 'home services', which most others frown upon.	[19:25]
dxtr	Home services?	[19:25]
cedwards	like mail, web, etc services on residential connections.	[19:25]
dxtr	Mkay Well, I've got a static IP and 100Mb That's enough for me	[19:25]
cedwards	the other telecoms around here list that as against policy, although don't always enforce it.	[19:26]
dxtr	Oh, and I'm allowed to have those home services :) At least last time I checked the contract a couple of years ago Now Telenor have bought the ISP And I hate Telenor	[19:26]
cedwards	generally isps here suck.	[19:27]
dxtr	ISPs here are generally good - but it has taken a turn to the worse	[19:27]
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cedwards	when your down speed is 1.5M, then you can complain to me.	[19:27]
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RandalSchwartz	I'm still only a few blocks away from my machine at ARP. I should visit :) and oversee.net has a high-speed to wilshire, so my ping times are undre 2ms from work	[19:29]
dxtr	cedwards: I don't think we ca get that low The lowest we can get here is 2Mbps :D	[19:30]
cedwards	dxtr: my DSL is 1.5M down, ~768 up. It's _pathetic_, yet my only option.	[19:31]
jdoe	I don't bother with DSL here.	[19:31]
cedwards	i get better speeds on my air card, or tethering through my mobile phone.	[19:31]
dxtr	My fiber is 100Mbps down, 10Mbps up. I think that's pathetic :7 :/	[19:31]
jdoe	cedwards: presumably shitty latency though ;)	[19:31]
dxtr	I want 100Mbps up! Honestly Preferrably 1000Mbps down (I think it's availble in some places here)	[19:31]
cedwards	i have a rental property that can get 30M up/down.. but I don't want to live in it ..although the internet speeds are inviting.	[19:32]
dxtr	I think some ISP here (TeliaSonera or something) started with a gigabit connection for like $100 USD each month or something $100 US*	[19:33]
RandalSchwartz	At least with fiber, you're regular. :)	[19:33]
dxtr	What do you mean?	[19:33]
cedwards	~rimshot	[19:33]
RandalSchwartz	heh	[19:33]
dxtr	Gah Man I hate you :p I was like "WTF?"	[19:34]
RandalSchwartz	A bit... backed up? :)	[19:34]
dxtr	I ate moms chicken the other day and I'm still quite loose after that experience	[19:34]
cedwards	it is just a series of tubes after all.	[19:34]
RandalSchwartz	until the poker chips block it!	[19:35]
dxtr	Okay, it's 04:43 I don't know how you guys manage to stay up all nights every day and still do some work day time	[19:35]
RandalSchwartz	this isn't night yet	[19:36]
dxtr	See! It's early morning and you're like "It isn't night yet"	[19:36]
RandalSchwartz	damn round earth! why can't it be FLAT?	[19:36]
dxtr	According to FES it is	[19:37]
RandalSchwartz	FES?	[19:37]
dxtr	Flart earth society	[19:37]
RandalSchwartz	the third largest city in morocco?	[19:37]
dxtr	https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flat_Earth_Society	[19:37]
RandalSchwartz	... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fes	[19:37]
dxtr	"The Flat Earth model depicts Antarctica as an ice wall surrounding a disk shaped Earth"	[19:37]
RandalSchwartz	Flywheel Energy Storage? Foundation for Ecological Security?	[19:37]
cedwards	i've heard of the FES	[19:38]
RandalSchwartz	Fuerzas Especialies? Foreign Exchange Student?	[19:38]
dxtr	If I'm not mistaken they believe the earth is flat, surrounded by an ice wall and resting on a FRIGGIN' TURTLE	[19:39]
RandalSchwartz	it's turtles all the way down well - objects first, then turtles	[19:39]
cedwards	a round earth and photos from space are government conspiracies.	[19:39]
dxtr	I like turtles!	[19:39]
cedwards	ninja turtles?	[19:39]
RandalSchwartz	turtles all the way down = slow all the way down ninja turtles are amongst us	[19:39]
dxtr	Q. If the planets are round, why isn't the earth? A. The earth is not a planet. Bahaha	[19:40]
RandalSchwartz	literally it isn't since planet = "wanderer"	[19:40]
dxtr	Q: "Why does gravity vary with altitude?" A: The moon and stars have a slight gravitational pull.	[19:41]
RandalSchwartz	earth does not "wander" from our observation	[19:41]
dxtr	Q: "If gravity does not exist, how does terminal velocity work"? A: When the acceleration of the person is equal to the acceleration of the Earth, the person has reached terminal velocity.	[19:41]
RandalSchwartz	o/~ because the world is round... it turns me ooooooon o/~	[19:41]
dxtr	:D They say there is no gravity We stay on earth because it is going upwards	[19:41]
RandalSchwartz	gravity... is heavy, dude.	[19:42]
dxtr	http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Gravity	[19:42]
cedwards	gravity is a series of tubes?	[19:43]
dxtr	Q. Can't we just circumnavigate the earth by traveling in a straight line without a navigational aid? A. It is not possible to travel in a perfectly straight line for very long without a navigational aid.	[19:46]
cedwards	dxtr: are those all from that site?	[19:47]
RandalSchwartz	I use a ruler	[19:47]
dxtr	cedwards: tes yes* http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Form+and+Magnitude http://i23.tinypic.com/nwkp5t.jpg <- Apparently that is the edge of our world http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=The+Ice+Wall And apparently there are temperatures near 0K reaching the other side of the wall Or, well, if you try to walk them http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=High+Altitude+Photographs " The only pictures which show the horizon as an arc of a circle are NASA's space photography. NASA is a fraudulent organization and is not to be trusted." http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Undersea+Cables They've got to be kidding	[19:47]
AndrewBC	lol so the sun is a spotlight, too wonder how they explain video where the continent comes out of the darkness on one side and then disappears on the other side every time "Oh, shit you're right. It's not flat, it's a ring" "And we must be on the outer edge!	[19:56]
dxtr	hehe	[20:03]
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mrbit	hello. admins in?/ are the 20$'s rly sold out? vps i need one pretty quick if you can	[20:23]
RandalSchwartz	for now everythign is sold out	[20:23]
mrbit	30's? rly?	[20:24]
RandalSchwartz	more machines coming soon	[20:24]
mrbit	nothing at all?	[20:24]
RandalSchwartz	put your request in	[20:24]
mrbit	ugh ok	[20:24]
RandalSchwartz	might fulfill in a week or two	[20:24]
mrbit	on ur site i suppose?	[20:24]
RandalSchwartz	my site? hardly go to arpnetworks.com :)	[20:24]
mrbit	you know what i meant i hope heh arps site	[20:24]
RandalSchwartz	I'm just a customer	[20:24]
mrbit	i realize that :)	[20:25]
RandalSchwartz	but the admins hang out here a lot	[20:25]
mrbit	I miss my arp box :D and my awk one what happened to awk?	[20:25]
RandalSchwartz	awk ?	[20:25]
mrbit	i need one in la i was rly looking forward to getting one of the vps' tonight but i'll just get one when you guys get some more in	[20:25]
RandalSchwartz	"you"?	[20:26]
mrbit	? "me"? yes..	[20:26]
RandalSchwartz	when "you guys" who the hell are you talking to?	[20:26]
mrbit	the arp staff	[20:26]
RandalSchwartz	yeah, they aren't here not right now	[20:26]
mrbit	yeah well i'm sure they'll see it later randal :)	[20:27]
RandalSchwartz	but you make it sound like it's us and it's not	[20:27]
mrbit	oi vey ..	[20:27]
RandalSchwartz	far more non-ARP here than ARP	[20:27]
mrbit	quite a smartass you are sir	[20:27]
RandalSchwartz	so please speak appropriately no - just interested in actual conversation not crap	[20:27]
mrbit	Please do not be a jerk. i'm just inquiring	[20:27]
RandalSchwartz	please speak appropriately then	[20:28]
mrbit	heh	[20:28]
RandalSchwartz	this is a support channel for ARP	[20:28]
mrbit	are you on the right network? efnet was a left turn	[20:28]
RandalSchwartz	not a personal channel from YOU to ARP so please carve off a clue	[20:28]
mrbit	i'll carve some /ignore in your very long nick	[20:28]
RandalSchwartz	If only you'd also stop speaking here, it'd be a good thing since you seem to be a few cards short of a deck	[20:29]
mrbit	wow, you've really god a attitude man. god=got	[20:30]
RandalSchwartz	yeah - I want people to make sense here you don't	[20:30]
mrbit	I did make sense. You're being a jerk.	[20:30]
RandalSchwartz	please read scrollback	[20:30]
mrbit	i'll just idle and wait thx for letting me know they're not here Randal	[20:30]
RandalSchwartz	clearly you haven't been idling here mch and now you are, and think it's your personal channel to ARP	[20:30]
mrbit	i'm pretty sure I just joined.	[20:31]
RandalSchwartz	and it isn't	[20:31]
mrbit	i don't have time for u. pz	[20:31]
RandalSchwartz	so I'm letting you know that you're inappropriate and "u" is for SMS, not IRC. if you're paying for IRC by the character, sucks to be "u"	[20:31]
mrbit	do I know you from somewhere? or are you just an asshole to everyone that makes a typo?	[20:32]
RandalSchwartz	Probably not And I'm guessing you're about 17 right?	[20:32]
mrbit	do you think they appreciate your talking to potential c ustomers like you are?	[20:32]
RandalSchwartz	my potential customers? hardly again, you confuse me for someone from ARP. I'm just a customer.	[20:33]
mrbit	:) you're so cute. like a lil teddy bear	[20:33]
RandalSchwartz	You're likely not my type	[20:33]
mrbit	that peaks anal english on irc	[20:33]
RandalSchwartz	Yeah - definitely 17 maybe even 16. somewhere in there. Where you're still trying your "stance" and have to challenge anyone not aligned with you instead of just embracing them and recognizing what works and what doesn't I remember that era More important to be "right" than be "useful" "I want a box tonight" ... also typical 17-year-old unrealistic behavior	[20:34]
mike-burns	I never really noticed, but that is a very long nick.	[20:39]
RandalSchwartz	I'd like it to be shorter but that's the name they gave me	[20:39]
mike-burns	It's a good name, no doubt.	[20:40]
RandalSchwartz	I tried using just Merlyn for a while but I never legally changed to that even though I had ideas of doing that It's a crappy name, actually Randal - what, not "ll"?	[20:40]
mike-burns	It took me a few months to realize that RandalSchwartz and Merlyn were the same (back when I was a Perl dev).	[20:41]
RandalSchwartz	Schwartz - are you kidding me?	[20:41]
mike-burns	The non-double-L is unique! Makes you memorable.	[20:41]
RandalSchwartz	unique = nobody gets it :)	[20:41]
mike-burns	Well at least it's shorter---short enough to fit in an IRC nick, even.	[20:41]
RandalSchwartz	As bad as if it was R�nd�l :)	[20:41]
mike-burns	One more L and you might be over the limit. mike-burns is too lazy to actually count.	[20:41]
RandalSchwartz	Apparently RandalSchwartz is short enough here although much longer, and it wouldn't we're interviewing a key guy from Freenode tomorrow	[20:42]
mike-burns	Well it's a good thin you don't have that extra L!	[20:42]
RandalSchwartz	I'll ask him	[20:42]
mike-burns	Smart idea.	[20:42]
RandalSchwartz	for FLOSS Weekly Dan Lynch helping me from Linux Outlaws	[20:43]
mike-burns	Not familiar with him, but that sounds like a nice mashup. Are you going to tell him that FreeBSD is better than Linux?	[20:43]
RandalSchwartz	there are people who are saying "OMG - linux outlaws on twit?" but in fact, no Linux Outlaws is its own show I would not pretend to replace or compete wiht that	[20:43]
mike-burns	Fair enough, though I'm sure you could take them.	[20:44]
RandalSchwartz	no - he does a news show this weeks releases, important things my shows are timeless you can listen to my show a year from now and learn something	[20:44]
mike-burns	Ah, I see. So he's trying to get in on the timeless action.	[20:45]
RandalSchwartz	no - I need a co-host and we've already chatted	[20:45]
mike-burns	For when people time travel and need to be in a time-free environment.	[20:45]
RandalSchwartz	heh	[20:45]
mike-burns	Well it's time for me to sleep. Have a good one.	[20:46]
mrbit	g'night mike	[20:47]
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AndrewBC	flying backwards flips have been deemed 10 times more effective than barrel rolls: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ez5QPW-ku4	[21:02]
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jdoe	lol scrollback	[21:41]
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up_the_irons	RandalSchwartz: how long are you in LA for? I should show you your machine	[22:16]
	RandalSchwartz: I actually like Merlyn for you; you should keep it jdoe: yeah the scrollback was pretty good mrbit: there is no way to get a vps tonight, sorry. You could try Slicehost or Linode or RootBSD, I think they have pretty quick setups (I know Slicehost is like within an hour) Port: py-policyd-spf-0.7.1p0 Path: mail/py-policyd-spf Info: external SPF policy checker for postfix I found what cedwards is using, in an OpenBSD port	[22:29]
mrbit	I can wait up_the_irons, thank u However your guy here.. Randal is quite rude..	[22:41]
up_the_irons	RandalSchwartz isn't my guy, just another dude like everyone else... and I LOL'd at your conversation	[22:43]
mrbit	right, i was just saying he's pretty damn rude	[22:43]
up_the_irons	don't worry about it; if anyone pushing bits on IRC affects you that much, you have bigger problems. I was just told earlier my website looks like 2001 took a shit on it, and look I'm still happy	[22:45]
mrbit	heh just commenting man	[22:45]
up_the_irons	same :)	[22:45]
mrbit	^--pretty obvious i ignored him after the taunts any idea when arp is going to get soem vps' in?	[22:46]
up_the_irons	mid-June or thereabouts	[22:46]
mrbit	wow..	[22:46]
up_the_irons	unless someone wants to lend me $5K	[22:47]
mrbit	right on. I'll fill out that form on your site then you just need some more machines and a rack? well thats awesome man you're doing great if you sold out haha, i just read that 2001 took a shit..... part missed that who cares what it looks like? the entire point of a site is to relay info :) right?	[22:47]
up_the_irons	I have the additional cabinet now, and everything that went along with it. Basically expanded my cage in LA. Now I just need another box.	[22:49]
mrbit	wish i could send u this 2u i'm taking it to my old work tomm they're letting colo for free	[22:49]
up_the_irons	mrbit: you got that right. everyone who likes the site says the same thing, it's just to relay info mrbit: where are you located?	[22:49]
mrbit	i'll get ya one if you hook me up :) Chattanooga, TN box is going to vpntranet.com i had worked there for 5 years	[22:49]
up_the_irons	yeah I can't compete with free ;)	[22:50]
mrbit	working for kmctelecom, centurytel and locals	[22:50]
up_the_irons	I used to do a lot of colo, but it is so low margin now it's like, what is the point	[22:50]
mrbit	yeah, you lose $ i've already looked into a room myself so i can do both that anothe 2 years down the rd	[22:50]
up_the_irons	yeah, and everything is going virtual anyway. why worry about hardware when I can do it for you ;)	[22:51]
mrbit	heh, cause i'm preparing my own :) i like to make money too	[22:51]
up_the_irons	yeah	[22:52]
mrbit	i just wanted a vps to hook my buddies up with some ipv6 hsots for irc connections	[22:52]
up_the_irons	cool	[22:52]
mrbit	no charging anything t june's good though its always good to haev an extra ipv4 for dns too	[22:52]
up_the_irons	yeah	[22:53]
mrbit	i like to spread them out like they were intented for are you a cig smoker ?	[22:53]
up_the_irons	mrbit: no odd question, why? :)	[22:55]
mrbit	not prying, was just gonna let you know about these Gauloises if you did	[22:55]
up_the_irons	I live in CA, not many people smoke here anymore ;) laws have got so tight not that I ever smoked anyway	[22:56]
mrbit	i'm going to be in cali in 6 weeks first time ;) mrbit is excited	[22:56]
up_the_irons	mrbit: what city?	[22:56]
mrbit	outside of la about an hr i forgot what city he said	[22:56]
up_the_irons	don't smoke in Burbank or Glendale in public, you'll get a citation ;)	[22:57]
mrbit	but we're goign to newport beach to hang out with my friend ed talk business	[22:57]
up_the_irons	ah Newport Beach is cool	[22:57]
mrbit	so i hear ed's got a beachhouse tehre there	[22:57]
amdprophet	it's illegal to smoke within 15 metres of any business here now	[22:57]
mrbit	yeah,i heard that..	[22:57]
amdprophet	and no smoking in pubs or restaraunts	[22:57]
up_the_irons	amdprophet: where are you located?	[22:57]
mrbit	getting straight nazi with the cigs there	[22:57]
amdprophet	vancouver, bc	[22:57]
up_the_irons	ah	[22:57]
mrbit	ohh vancouver wow.. didnm't know that if i were around more non smokers I wouldn't smoke at all I don't smoke when I'm around non smokers	[22:57]
amdprophet	i've got my motivation, my grandma just died from lung cancer	[22:58]
up_the_irons	sucks	[22:58]
amdprophet	heavy smoker	[22:58]
mrbit	my dad passed in 05 from it he smoked like a chimney too winston 100's	[22:59]
up_the_irons	wow	[22:59]
mrbit	yeah man, its rough seeing someone die light that.. light=like gasping for their last breathe i quit for 6 months afterwards then fell right back	[22:59]
amdprophet	:( my addiction is fast food... i'm trying to stop	[23:00]
mrbit	thats just as bad depending on what you eat there	[23:00]
amdprophet	i've gained a lot of weight in the past 3 years, went from 130 to 195	[23:01]
mrbit	damn!	[23:01]
up_the_irons	my new addiction is CoD: MW2	[23:01]
amdprophet	rofl that's got to be the worst addiction kills millions each year	[23:01]
up_the_irons	amdprophet: 130 to 195? damn dude	[23:02]
mrbit	thats rough	[23:02]
up_the_irons	i went from 150 to 175 one year, but i'm back down to 160	[23:02]
mrbit	you guys probably aren't going to believe this but i'm going tno tell ya anyway wtf not.. so i get up this morning.. i let the log out front.. jump in the shower i get out of the shower go to my bedroom 2 girls in my bed going at it and taking pics of each other with my cannon rebel xti I thought i had really lost it.. like about to get sent to t he looney bin for seeing shit lost it	[23:02]
amdprophet	only 2 girls? i woke up next to 30 this morning	[23:03]
mrbit	nice mad props fatty =P lol	[23:03]
amdprophet	rofl i'm not fat... yet i was underweight before, now i'm just slightly overweight	[23:04]
up_the_irons	wait a min... if they took pics with your cannon rebel xti... then we want to see pics	[23:04]
mrbit	hehe, just teasin	[23:04]
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mrbit	ok hold on	[23:04]
up_the_irons	lol	[23:04]
amdprophet	pics or it didn't happen, awaiting for a PM	[23:04]
up_the_irons	yup, that is the rule around here it seems	[23:05]
mrbit	ohh it happened.. i'm plugging the cam in no w	[23:05]
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amdprophet	i think i completely fail at IPv6 tunnelbroker in openbsd	[23:05]
mrbit	i should have known that requewst was coming lol	[23:05]
up_the_irons	srsly	[23:05]
mrbit	ipv6 damn near sets itself now days	[23:06]
up_the_irons	amdprophet: i tried to do a 6to4 router in openbsd, then found out it wasn't supported b/c of security concerns	[23:06]
amdprophet	really... how recently?	[23:06]
mrbit	what ver?	[23:06]
amdprophet	i'll probably rip my hair out if it's still not supported	[23:07]
up_the_irons	mrbit: my airport extreme does everything automatic, it is nice. only sucky thing is if your local 6to4 tunnel is messed up, you'll lose all traffic aimed at ipv6. most people won't even know what is wrong. I think I tried it with 4.4	[23:07]
amdprophet	OpenBSD risor.teralink.ca 4.6 GENERIC.MP#81 amd64 amdprophet hopes it's supported now	[23:07]
mrbit	obsd is a bit more picky with 6	[23:08]
up_the_irons	http://old.nabble.com/git0-tunnel-with-any-remote-endpoint-td22868545.html "The major difference and also the concern for security is that the remote endpoint (where the packet will be forwarded to) is determined from the IPv6 address, eg 2002:aabb:ccdd:: becomes aa.bb.cc.dd.	[23:08]
mrbit	mmmk	[23:09]
up_the_irons	There are a lot of security pitfalls in 6to4 and if I recall correctly that is the reason why OpenBSD does not support 6to4. IMHO that was a	[23:09]
mrbit	picking out some good ones i guess	[23:09]
up_the_irons	just decision. "	[23:09]
mrbit	one chubster and one skinny redhead both freaks.	[23:09]
amdprophet	amdprophet waits for a rick roll	[23:09]
up_the_irons	amdprophet: it can still do v6 over v4. just not 6to4 anycast	[23:10]
mrbit	kinda makes me wanta leave the door unlocked more often my luck i'll get stabbed in the face one day	[23:10]
amdprophet	amdprophet walks through mrbit's door and stabs him in the face	[23:11]
mrbit	MY EYE!	[23:11]
up_the_irons	"Yes officer, I heard a chubby girl and crazy red head were gonna stab him in the face"	[23:11]
amdprophet	lol	[23:11]
up_the_irons	If you go missing, I'll call the Chattanooga PD on your behalf	[23:12]
amdprophet	RandalSchwartz: you around?	[23:12]
mrbit	wtf, why isnt my ftp rnuning	[23:12]
amdprophet	FBI	[23:13]
up_the_irons	what is the difference between amavis, amavis-new, and amavis-ng. I hate it when projects get confusing like that.	[23:13]
amdprophet	wow.. yea i can't stand that either anyone using an android phone here?	[23:14]
up_the_irons	not i	[23:16]
amdprophet	i switched to a nexus one from my iphone 3g, i'm loving it so much especially since the 2.2 update	[23:17]
mrbit	i like my droid	[23:18]
up_the_irons	a buddy has the Incredible and he loves it	[23:18]
mrbit	its faster than the nexus not stock but after i tweaked it	[23:18]
amdprophet	were you comparing it against a tweaked n1?	[23:19]
mrbit	ohh yeah i neglected to mention they broughth beer too	[23:19]
amdprophet	awesome	[23:19]
mrbit	and various other narcodics i just saw the pic and reminded me ok uploading some now damn the camera does add weight tits and ass look bigger on the blonde	[23:19]
amdprophet	if i'm tunnelling, should i need to change my PF config?	[23:25]
mrbit	http://www.ifconfig.net/wtfnicemorning	[23:26]
up_the_irons	amdprophet: client or server?	[23:26]
amdprophet	up_the_irons: it's for tunnelbroker	[23:27]
up_the_irons	"The requested URL /wtfnicemorning was not found on this server"	[23:27]
mrbit	ahh yeah perms	[23:27]
up_the_irons	amdprophet: not sure	[23:27]
amdprophet	http://pastie.org/private/qnba43qcxkxeob70rczktq is that 6to4 or v6 over v4	[23:27]
up_the_irons	looks like 6 over 4 HE uses a /128 for the endpoints? shame shame but shouldn't that be /127 anyway? if they 'did it right', it'd be a /64 for the endpoints	[23:29]
amdprophet	/128 would have 0 available hosts, wouldn't it? just broadcast + network addy	[23:30]
mrbit	blam http://xerxes.ifconfig.net/wtfnicemorning/ i took the camera away anbd took advantage.. sorry ill take more nude pics next time lol oops i left incriminating evidence in there me	[23:30]
amdprophet	lol	[23:32]
mrbit	after that.. I'm buying a damn camera tomm hidden cam they all want to do a porn site now i say "well, go recruit some more friends and we'll see what we can do.."	[23:33]
up_the_irons	LOL	[23:33]
amdprophet	rofl	[23:33]
up_the_irons	I'll host it	[23:33]
mrbit	hells yeah you're in cali	[23:34]
up_the_irons	your camera is quite good	[23:34]
mrbit	legal	[23:34]
amdprophet	I'll be quality control	[23:34]
mrbit	i <3 that camera i got it for free too	[23:34]
up_the_irons	rofl	[23:34]
mrbit	scammed dell.com lulz i wanta nikon to go along with it and that new samsung touch screen camera 7: " everyone done yet? wget so i can rm	[23:34]
amdprophet	safari froze one sec	[23:35]
mrbit	heh	[23:35]
amdprophet	k thx	[23:35]
mrbit	yup	[23:35]
AndrewBC	uno momento!	[23:36]
mrbit	i said hurry andn wget	[23:36]
AndrewBC	meh, nevermind, I didn't install wget	[23:36]
up_the_irons	bah i was only half way thru	[23:37]
AndrewBC	would take too long	[23:37]
mrbit	bah.., heh	[23:37]
AndrewBC	I saw the last picture though. Pretty cute	[23:37]
up_the_irons	i did wget --mirror, but alas, already gone	[23:37]
mrbit	hold on.. u guys ready? get them qjuick	[23:37]
up_the_irons	yep	[23:37]
AndrewBC	consider me done thanks though :)	[23:37]
mrbit	k go	[23:38]
up_the_irons	weee	[23:38]
mrbit	yay wandering strange.. heh mrbit write a note in his appt book for a test gharnaherpachipliaids get them?	[23:38]
up_the_irons	yep	[23:39]
mrbit	thats some odd shit not normal anyway not that im complaining come one come all bitches in bits bedroom i'll name the new video that	[23:40]
up_the_irons	srsly that's a good name	[23:41]
mrbit	that would be a sweet job wonder if i got anymore beer.. i hope so. berb	[23:41]
up_the_irons	amdprophet: the /128 is odd. that's one and only one IP	[23:43]
amdprophet	hmmm	[23:43]
mrbit	i wish dood would give me the money to order this g5 LCD already	[23:43]
amdprophet	it's what he's autoconfigure script gives me	[23:43]
mrbit	its just been sitting by the fireplace without a screen looks so out of place	[23:43]
up_the_irons	"/128 when it is absolutely known that one and only one device is connecting" RFC 3177 Note that that is only a recommendation	[23:44]
mrbit	i can't wait to get spackles bsd setup script back i'm getting that tomm ramble ramble hahahahah, i left a good one out. hold on..	[23:44]
up_the_irons	lol	[23:46]
mrbit	i'm not right.. i should have captioned that www.ifconfig.net/wtf that's me discovering what's going on in my room	[23:46]
up_the_irons	LOL	[23:50]
mrbit	caption "Hrm.. What's this.. :)" what channels am i missing on here other tha freesideatl i want a box a netdepot.com don't wanta pay that though >.< i rly need to do something with that domain whats to do out there in a shrot business visit? where should an out of stater visit for sure ..	[23:50]
up_the_irons	nothing really	[23:57]
mrbit	whoa http://chattanooga.craigslist.org/bfs/1736375957.html check it out not bad	[23:58]

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