#arpnetworks 2010-05-20,Thu

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cedwardswell my two year old just figured out how to unlock mommy and daddy's bedroom door using the car keys. [07:22]
coilwere you fucking [07:25]
cedwardsdid you not catch "two year old". of course not! who has the time. [07:26]
bob^^lol [07:29]
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dxtrokay...
Two book reports, 700 words each. Sounds reasonable
Now I'll just have to find two books :D
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RandalSchwartzstill putting that off? :) [08:25]
cedwardssrsly dxtr ? [08:25]
dxtrRandalSchwartz: I was up to 4Am this night and made my project report
13 pages and still not entirely done (Gotta do the log book)
So the schedule for today: English->Civics->Finish my log book
Or civics->english->finish my log book
I'm not sure yet
The good part is the english isn't a speech thingy. I'll just write and hand it in
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cedwardsdxtr: is speaking more difficult for you than writing? [08:32]
dxtrcedwards: No. Well, yes. Kind of because pronounciation isn't my awesome side. But that wasn't my point :)
The thing is if It's a speech excercise they might ask me crap about the book I didn't read.
As I'm just handing it in now they won't ask anything
:D
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cedwardsmaybe you should just read it [08:34]
dxtrcedwards: Honestly? No :/ [08:48]
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dxtrI'm just doing this to pass the course - not to get awesome grades (I must pass this) [08:49]
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jdoehaha.
I find speaking french far more unpleasant than writing it.
not just pronunciation, processing speed too. Easier not to sound like a complete idiot when you can take your time to compose a message instead of stammering while you grasp for a word.
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cedwardsit's been so long since I've needed to speak a second language, I'm trying to remember the difficulty. [10:00]
jdoewell right, there's that too.
if I tried either now I'd probably fail pretty miserable.
miserably.
... apparently I'm even having troubles with english.
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cedwardsI used to speak a few Filipino dialects, but that was nearly ten years ago.
I would imagine typing, at this point, would be much easier than speaking.. and I'd have a horrible, horrible accent I'm sure.
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jdoeI didn't know there were dialects, I thought it was all tagalog. [10:04]
cedwardsthere are 80+ dialects actually. [10:04]
jdoe... although with all those islands, I guess that's kind of silly now that I think about it... [10:04]
cedwardstagolog is the national (man-made) language, but each island and region have their own. [10:04]
jdoeah. pinoy or just felt like learning them? [10:06]
RandalSchwartzaren't all languages man-made?
or are you distinguishing that from woman-made? :)
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jdoeRandalSchwartz: C was crafted by GODS
;)
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RandalSchwartzC# by the devil. :) [10:06]
cedwardsRandalSchwartz: Most languages have evolved over the centuries, but Tagalog was.. "invented" just in the last century.
RandalSchwartz: consider the US population speaking 80+ different, incompatible languages. The government would need some means to communicate with everyone.
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RandalSchwartzwas it more or less artificial than Esperanto? [10:08]
cedwardsI suppose Esperanto would be a similar comparison.
jdoe: I lived there for a couple years, and took the time to pick it up.
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jdoecedwards: right on. [10:09]
RandalSchwartzuh - wikipedia disagrees with you
... The first written record of Tagalog is in the Laguna Copperplate Inscription, written in the year 900 and uses fragments of the language along with Sanskrit, Malay, and Javanese. Meanwhile, the first known book to be written in Tagalog is the Doctrina Cristiana (Christian Doctrine) of 1593.
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cedwardscedwards looks. [10:09]
RandalSchwartzit was *adopted* as official in 1937
but it existed centuries before that
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jdoeneat. [10:13]
cedwardsI must have misunderstood what someone told me while I was there. [10:13]
RandalSchwartzwere they speaking in Tagalog? :) [10:14]
cedwardsunderstand, the dialects I learned are unofficial and unwritten, meaning I had to learn them "in the wild" [10:15]
RandalSchwartzmost of the people I know who speak Tagalog are bartenders. :)
Holland America's cruise bartenders are exclusively Filipino
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cedwardsI lived in the Visayas, which Wikipedia also mentions is a region that did not accept the selection.
but now I feel like I was lied to :(
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RandalSchwartzcertainly not the first time :) [10:23]
jdoehaha [10:23]
cedwardssomeone told me Perl could do everything one time too. Starting to doubt that as well ;) [10:24]
jdoeperl CAN do everything.
... doesn't mean it should ;)
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RandalSchwartzPerl is Turing complete :) [10:25]
cedwardson an unrelated note, I am getting really tired of updating documentation on my project
I'm finding some of this (from the man page), very dated :(
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jdoekeeping documentation current is hateful :( [10:27]
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cedwardsugg. 150+ lines and I've covered two functions. [10:44]
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dxtrI'm done with the civics now!
Did an entire course in... 4-5 hours
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dxtrBlargh
o/
I'm totallty done with the civics now
I did every single thing that had to be done
Tomorrow will be piece of cak
cake*
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Elem[e]ntlol
nice typo =b
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cedwardsdoes anyone have any experience migrating a FreeBSD jail from one host to another?
I have two systems, both ZFS based. The jails are ZFS sized images (5G), and I'd like to move one to another host.
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