#arpnetworks 2010-05-18,Tue

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up_the_ironsawyeah: oh you like my logo? nice tnx
oh man, arp tissue, condoms and mugs; that's a tall order
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AndrewBCsounds like almost everything I would need for a bachelor pad [05:08]
up_the_ironsi ditched nginx and went back to apache. apache + passenger is awesome; i don't need 10k req/sec, but I'd like a decent config file and conditional rewrite support that is not retarted [05:08]
AndrewBCadd some hot pockets and alcohol, milk crate furniture and a futon bedsofa and we're good to go [05:08]
up_the_ironssrsly [05:09]
AndrewBCHeh, yeah I tried nginx a while back. It's mod_wsgi module for python is not quite up to snuff yet.
apache has just been around so long that it's solid
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up_the_ironsnginx is kinda a fad
i switched some stuff to it, but after having to actually work with it, some parts are really terrible (like regex, rewrite, and conditional expressions)
you can't even have a logical AND or OR in a conditional
retarded
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AndrewBCIIRC the ruby folks love it, so I wouldn't be surprised if it's just a trendy thing :) [05:19]
up_the_ironsyup :) [05:21]
AndrewBCHeh, no and or or [05:22]
cedwardsI switched to lighttpd a few years ago and I've been pleased. [05:22]
awyeahyes. the logo is good and simple [05:25]
up_the_ironscool [05:30]
schmirschmir likes nginx.
apparently my setups are simple enough...
and I'm not a ruby guy ;)
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AndrewBCheh
I wouldn't mind using it for simple stuff, like serving static content before apache. The only reason I didn't use it was because there's fundamental broken-ness between it and mod_wsgi, (for python), and I hate fastcgi
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awyeahbtw, up_the_irons, any idea when you'll have more VM capacity? I have a friend looking around for some hosting. [05:34]
up_the_ironsawyeah: middle of June is the goal
awyeah: i encourage anyone wanting hosting to get on the preorder priority list; there *are* spots that open up before then
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AndrewBClooks like I'll be bundling up in this chat for a while then :D
not that I'd leave as soon as I got hosting
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up_the_ironsup_the_irons hands AndrewBC a blanket [05:35]
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AndrewBCWhythankyou [05:35]
up_the_ironsnp [05:35]
awyeahSweet. I'll tell him to think about it. He's also considering a managed VPS service. He's not sure whether or not he wants to run things himself.
Crap, gotta get to the office. back later.
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dxtrI use xshttpd guys :)
It's amazingly simple
Other than that I don't know much bout it
about*
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up_the_ironsawyeah: later [05:43]
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awyeahuninteresting day at the office. [08:22]
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dxtrI hate doing reports :P [10:51]
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awyeahso. unrelated to any hosting stuff.
I'm looking for good software to use to back up to my NAS box at home that's not rediculous.
back up my windows box to my FreeBSD NAS box.
Anyway. I might do straight rsync and batch files. But maybe there's something that works a little better on Windows?
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jdoeI've got a friend who swears by http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
jdoe doesn't bother backing up windows
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awyeahthat looks pretty cool. although i only have one PC to back up at home :)
And I kind of like the Windows Home Server-type of backup where you can just put a CD in and do a bare-metal restore
But I don't want Windows Home Server, FFS.
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jdoesorry dude, no useful advice.
I use windows for playing video games and that's it.
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awyeahheh. [12:32]
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RandalSchwartzheh - even tunneled through miredo... 16 bytes from 2607:f2f8:3080::, icmp_seq=2 hlim=60 time=2.259 ms
that's because it picked the miredo gateway of HurricaneElectric
also in One Wilshire :)
fat pipe from 44th floor to one wilshire, fat pipe from there to arp
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up_the_ironsyeah i bet the traceroute is like 3 hops [15:41]
RandalSchwartzyeah
try it yourself... 2001::4137:9e76:0:31d5:33f2:5cdb
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up_the_ironsyep, 5 hops [15:41]
RandalSchwartzthe last one is inside ipv4, so it's probably a few hops again
oddly enough, I can't tell what machine that is from v4... since it has no v4 addr.
... 6to4.lax1.he.net
it has to be on both 4 and 6
but that name doesn't forward in either :)
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up_the_ironsyour answer is:
$ whois 2001:0:4137:9e76:0:31d5:33f2:5cdb:
Querying for the IPv4 endpoint 204.13.163.36 of a Teredo IPv6 address.
...
$
so it's 204.13.163.36
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RandalSchwartzoh- whois can say?
cool
hmm. my whois didn't do that
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up_the_ironsUbuntu's whois is pretty awesome [15:46]
RandalSchwartzok
Oh - right. my ipv6 is directly related to my external ipv4
duh!
... http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg228809.html
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up_the_ironsindeed [15:54]
RandalSchwartz... perl -le 'print join ".", map { 255 - $_ } unpack "C*", pack "H*", "33f25cdb"'
using the last 4 bytes of my v6
gets the same number
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up_the_ironsup_the_irons wonders off to lunch [15:56]
jdoejdoe holds down the fort. [15:59]
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up_the_ironsPostfix on OpenBSD 4.6 a success. It claims to be chrooted. I almost don't believe it. It worked right out of the box. Setup is still minimal and no virtual mailboxes yet (e.g. Dovecot), but looking promising [19:04]
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cedwardsisn't 4.7 due out any day now? [19:20]
up_the_ironscedwards: i have the CD set on my desk
so, isn't it out already?
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cedwardslast I checked the downloads weren't available. [19:21]
up_the_ironshehe, guess they wanted to encourage CD orders ;) [19:22]
cedwardsyeah. site lists May 19th, 2010
FTP link doesn't go anywhere.
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up_the_ironshehe, so tomorrow [19:22]
cedwardssigh. last.fm is nice, but I cannot get it to play similar enough track(s) to what I'm looking for. [19:27]
ballencedwards: Pandora? [19:27]
up_the_ironsyeah, i like Pandora, plays exactly what i like
it's like magic
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