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[11:39] cant seem to logon in ssh or vnc [11:40] and its pinging out for the last day, all my bots/bnc [11:50] it appears to just be you. [11:52] which vnc? the console vnc, or your internal vnc? [11:53] *** nukeAFK has joined #arpnetworks [12:16] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [12:16] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [12:25] *** AndrewBC has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [12:29] *** AndrewBC has joined #arpnetworks [12:32] yeah. mine are still workin' fine. [12:53] *** nukeAFK has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [13:05] *** nukeAFK has joined #arpnetworks [13:19] *** nukeAFK has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [13:24] *** nukeAFK has joined #arpnetworks [14:08] console one [14:11] is there any way to tell which host machine you're on? [14:11] my vps locked up yesterday [14:11] so i wonder if our problems are related, nuke [14:13] maybe by a traceroute [14:13] first hop up is the host OS [14:13] hmm, i'm in single user mode right now so i can't find out just yet [14:13] im buildworld'ing right now [14:16] i can ping it [14:16] Average time over 10 pings: 51.6 ms [14:17] its where nukeAFK is [14:17] but is always ping out [14:21] actually - yeah, the console IP is probably related to the machine it's on [14:22] i use 208.79.88.69 [14:22] to vnc in [14:22] * Dns resolved 208.79.88.69 to kvr04.arpnetworks.com [14:22] hmmm [14:22] mine is kvr02 [14:22] ahh ok [14:23] *** zeepk4ever is now known as pakistanb [14:23] *** pakistanb is now known as pakistanblade [14:23] well ill shoot an email off to support [14:24] *** pakistanblade is now known as BarberRonny [14:28] Crap. I need a new hdd :( [14:28] i did it a couple of hours ago [14:40] Hmm [14:40] Can't one get an entire directory with sftp? [14:41] -r ? [14:43] rsync :) [14:43] frankly, I stopped using sftp long ago [14:44] and even before that, I never realized cp had -r because I had grown used to using rsync for all that [14:44] much more versatile [14:44] *and* restartable [14:44] it got alot better in recent openssh, including finally filename-completion [14:45] but indeed, rsync is the best [14:45] Might start using that more [14:47] rsync -avxP host:/path/to/there/ /path/to/here/ [14:51] Holy crap! -P is just plain awesome [14:51] I love you, RandalSchwartz [14:51] I'll start using rsync to copy files between disks :P [14:52] Is it available on vanilla Mac OS X (Leopard)? [15:11] yea [15:11] and on OSX add -A to copy resource fokrs [15:11] I think it's -A [15:12] oops -X [15:12] :P [15:12] so with -X you can accurately clone all mac files [15:12] including resource forks [15:12] Just asked because my girlfriend got a mac and we transfer much data to each other [15:13] I regularly clone folders of uh, mixed origin using that [15:14] Hmm.. btw, in emacs [15:14] How do I unset a mark? [15:16] There's probably a better way, but I just hit ^G [15:16] that seems to clear it [15:16] Awesome [15:17] It even worked in firemacs :D [15:17] Oh yeah [15:17] C-g - resets the mark [15:17] I think I just learnedearly on that ^G means "abort!" [15:17] ahh, so it's literally the right thing :) [15:18] Isn't ESC-ESC-ESC "Abort!" [15:18] ? [15:19] At least that's what I've read on the internet [15:20] no - that's to cut out of the minibuffer [15:20] ^G will abort running loops [15:23] speaking of which... time to upgrade emacs to 23.2 [15:23] soon as it's built, I gotta leave for a few minutes. :) [15:25] by the way, if you haven't played around with Tramp and Eshell in emacs, you're missing out [15:25] ^x ^f /otherhost:/path/to/file RET [15:25] Who are you calling a tramp? :) [15:27] ok - back in a few minutes I hope [15:27] *** RandalSchwartz has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [15:30] *** RandalSchwartz has joined #arpnetworks [15:31] in theory, now on 23.2 [15:31] mailcrypt is broken though [15:31] I need to figure out why [15:31] Hmm. upgrading emacs must've uninstalled it :) [15:32] I'm not using it anyway [15:33] so are new registrations still frozen? [15:33] I heard that from some other list today [15:34] ahh. says so on th epage [15:34] hehe [15:36] the original batgirl turned 73 today [15:37] she was also the green-skinned orion girl on the insane-asylum planet [15:37] on star trek [15:46] \o [15:46] Does it seem like a good idea to keep all my important backups on an encrypted sd card? [15:48] *** AndrewBC has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [15:49] *** stze has joined #arpnetworks [15:49] any admins around? [15:50] stze: i am [15:50] for some meaning of "round" :) [15:50] *** spits has joined #arpnetworks [15:50] ne admins [15:52] hi spits ;x [15:52] *** AndrewBC has joined #arpnetworks [15:52] spits: i'm an admin [15:52] sup nesta [15:52] is this who you got your box with? [15:52] yup [15:53] i guess they are sold out [15:53] :( [15:53] highly recommended :) [15:53] well [15:53] dont say that [15:53] cuz we cant ge tone [15:53] ya think so atm, should be in soon [15:53] me and ste were gonna get one [15:53] just wait :) [15:53] cool [15:53] Crap. Sometimes I kind of dislike that my english sucks. "... my girlfriend (which by the way...." sounded awesome in my head... Until someone commented it and said that my girlfriend is definitely a "who". A big "meh", face palm and some embarassment for that :P [15:53] its worth it [15:54] dude [15:54] spits: i'd encourage you to email preorder@arpnetworks.com [15:54] lol [15:54] to get on the priority list [15:54] how long is a few weeks tho? [15:54] ^^ [15:54] like [15:54] 3-4 [15:54] or 1-2 [15:54] lol [15:54] I heard "June" from up_the_irons [15:54] email garry/up_the_irons [15:54] :) [15:54] its the best deal in town tbh [15:55] so [15:55] wait! [15:55] lol [15:55] k [15:55] staple a $50 to your email [15:55] why you think they sold out fool! [15:55] heheh [15:55] yeh do what RandalSchwartz says [15:55] spits: middle of june, however slots periodically open up, so it is good to get on the priority list [15:55] up_the_irons: he is my buddy ;x [15:55] ok [15:55] hehe [15:55] it's good to be a victim of your own success [15:56] nestea: i figured :) [15:56] spits: preorder@arpnetworks.com [15:56] this is a guarantee that ARP will be around next month :) [15:56] haaha [15:56] yeah these guys are out for the gusto! [15:56] if up_the_irons could configure a box for you in 15 minutes, I'd worry [15:57] backlog is good [15:57] up_the_irons: Not going into detail if it's too sensitive - but you must make a fortune out of this. You're cheap but people are like vultures for your services :P [15:57] are you having to get racks in a new building yet? [15:57] or are they all still in the same walking area? [15:58] the building depicted at the beginning of SouthLAnd :) [15:58] dxtr: LOL. this business is hardly a get rich type of thing ;) my hardware costs are insane [15:59] RandalSchwartz: all in the same walking area [15:59] yeah - he buys stuff for us at $50k a pop, then gets $500 a month for ... 100 months. :) [16:00] up_the_irons: I hope for heavens sake that you make a decent living out of it [16:00] I suspect he's not flying a private jet, but I bet he's not eating ramen [16:01] I don't have the silghtest clue to how many customers he's got so I'm kind of guessing [16:01] at least 3. :) [16:01] hahah [16:01] LOL [16:02] if I had to hazard a guess, I'd say 4 times however many usually are in this channel as a bare minimum [16:02] We'll see how ridiculous that is [16:03] I'm guessing actually only about 1/10 of the customers might be regulars here [16:03] IRC isn't a usual thing [16:03] dxtr: I don't make a living at all out of it, i have a day job ;) was discussed a while back: http://irclogger.arpnetworks.com/irclogger_log/arpnetworks?date=2009-08-12,Wed&sel=53#l49 [16:03] Hm, that's true [16:03] But I've never seen a place like this where people are actually like vultures (That's not necessarily a bad thing!) and the admins have to set up a pre-order list [16:04] Aaah! I've actually thought that (No.. I don't think about this on the way to and from school..) [16:04] *** RandalSchwartz has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [16:05] IRC growth is like reverse logarithmic. grew a lot at first, but as a channel gets "fat", people tend to not care to stay around. it's like when communities get too big, they cease to have the "small community" feel [16:05] Yeah, like Randal just left [16:06] dxtr: http://www.prgmr.com/xen/ has a pre-order list [16:06] they are always sold out [16:06] I said *I'VE* never seen :) [16:06] dxtr: just sayin :) [16:06] Hehe. but seriously, the cheapest vps' here costs the same for half the performance [16:06] And then they are run on openvz or some crap [16:07] *** RandalSchwartz has joined #arpnetworks [16:07] ugh... my new emacs isn't hitting my IMAP correctly [16:08] Like my last provider; I couldn't set the clock (So ntp was out of the question), no ip6tables (But they had native ipv6 connectivity) and if I wanted to run any BSD I'd have to pay like $50 each month because they ran it on vmware [16:08] "License stuff" [16:09] I raged so I popped a vein on my forehead [16:09] LOL [16:09] up_the_irons, funny you linked that. I fired off an email to them so they would let me know when they have openings. That must have been over 6 months ago. I haven't gotten any replies after the initial conversation. [16:09] and that's why you're here [16:09] Yeah [16:09] AndrewBC: o'rly? interesting [16:10] Yeah, I don't know if I fell through the cracks or what, but oh well. [16:10] AndrewBC: i had a sneaking suspicion that they are simply sitting on what they got, instead of getting more hardware [16:10] up_the_irons - do you know Alex Teslik [16:10] Oh that makes sense, when your profit margin is really slim, getting more hardware can be pretty scary. [16:11] AndrewBC: their prices are even lower than mine, i actually don't see how they could even afford hardware; it must take a while for them to make up their cost [16:11] RandalSchwartz: no [16:11] up_the_irons: Do you think there's a possibility an earth quake (Or something) will move LA to the east coast so I will get better ping times to the VPS? [16:11] because that's the only thing I.. Dislike is the wrong word. Like less :P [16:11] he's one of the leads of disney animation [16:11] local guy [16:11] disney tv mostly [16:11] up_the_irons, yeah they're insanely cheap. Makes me wonder what would happen if disaster struck them, you know? [16:11] dxtr: i hope my building is pretty earthquake resistant ;) [16:11] then again, working for disney here means you're one of 50,000 [16:12] people used to do that to me working at Tektronix in Portland [16:12] RandalSchwartz: i work for a small subsidiary of Disney, so I don't end up meeting a lot of the people that work direct w/ Disney [16:12] "oh you work for Tek... you must know..." [16:12] up_the_irons: I'm not saying anything should be destroyed. Just shaken to the east coast. Preferrably scandinavia but that's stretching it [16:12] yeah srsly, disney is HUGE [16:13] dxtr: haha [16:13] *** spits has quit IRC (Quit: ircN 8.00 for mIRC (20080809) - www.ircN.org) [16:13] ... The Disneyland Resort supports 65700 jobs in southern California [16:13] and that's just the resort :) [16:14] Oh - edgar sec filing says 150k in socal [16:14] there we go [16:14] I kind of face palmed when I read LA in the beginning. I was like "Fuck yeah! The right side of the US too!", check map, ".... Oh well" [16:15] it's like .ca vs .ca.us :) [16:15] quite a bit of difference [16:15] RandalSchwartz: Do you know on wich coast GÃ¶teborg is? :P [16:15] Don't google it [16:16] dxtr: lol [16:16] (Gothenburg in english btw) [16:16] it's on the Göte coast! [16:17] Wat? :D [16:17] You know, next to the... Börg coast! [16:17] lol [16:18] in fact, I think it forms the border [16:18] *** stze has quit IRC () [16:18] "formerly a town in the DMZ between Göte and Børg, this little peacful village is now a thriving metropolis!" [16:19] * RandalSchwartz edits the wikipedia entry as we speak [16:19] Haha [16:20] "inhabited entirely by people who have no normal vowels in their name, headed by Svén and Ølly Jürgens as co-commissioners..." [16:22] JÃ¼rgen sounds german [16:22] :( [16:22] it's all the same! [16:22] Haha [16:22] heh [16:22] you think Svén is a swedish name? [16:23] Sven, but still [16:23] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sven [16:23] Sure. but with the little spanish accent? [16:23] Haha [16:23] "my name, although one syllable, will be pronounced with more stress than the rest of the sentence" [16:24] I remember when I used to play games and talked a lot with americans that had a hard time grasping Ã¥, Ã¤ and Ã¶ :D [16:24] "How is that even pronounced!? a-with-two-dots!?" [16:24] well - every language has 40 phonemes, so I'm sure there's a few that we have that you have trouble with [16:25] we just use the language of God... ASCII [16:25] Hehe [16:25] if it was good enough for God in the King James Bible, it's good enough for us. [16:25] Cyrillic \Å“ [16:25] \o [16:26] Speaking of wich; have you never heard a swede speak english? [16:26] It sounds horrible [16:26] And I admit it - I sound horrible too [16:26] if it's a girl, it doesn't matter. :) [16:26] you'd hit it anyway? [16:26] swedish girls, yup [16:26] as long as they were 18-22 :) [16:26] after that, not so good [16:26] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [16:26] Let me show you something [16:26] http://www.dxtr.cc/~dexter/pub/lovis01.jpg <- She's more swedish than me :D [16:27] not following a link with tübgîrl in it :) [16:27] she's actually pretty cute [16:27] not that you should trust me [16:27] yeah [16:27] I'd go there [16:27] My point was: Not so stereotypical :D [16:27] I think it's kind of funny [16:27] i'd hit it [16:27] * infrared hides [16:28] * fink would hit it twice [16:28] I'd try to hit it, and fail as I often do [16:28] infrared: I hit it yesterday! [16:28] since I'm a stupid idiot geek with no skills [16:28] High give! \o [16:28] * infrared hi-fives dxtr [16:28] o/ [16:28] High give.. ffs [16:28] what is "high give"? [16:28] yeah.. mega fail [16:28] dxtr: prove it [16:28] dxtr: yeah.. "pics".. or it didn't happen [16:28] RandalSchwartz: Slang for hi-five [16:29] not here [16:29] Apparently [16:29] you crazy foreigner [16:29] :D [16:29] infrared: I can show you a picture of one of our kittens [16:29] aww [16:29] heh "kitten" [16:29] Or http://www.dxtr.cc/~dexter/pub/streetview.gif [16:30] I can show you a bunch of pictures of women I met on a cruise ship last week, and didn't hit. :) [16:30] wtf [16:30] is that you in scuba gear? [16:30] s/on a cruise ship last week/in the past ten years/ :) [16:30] haha, no. But it's in Sweden :P [16:30] point noted [16:30] :) [16:30] people playing with teh streetview camera [16:31] http://www.dxtr.cc/~dexter/pub/lovisdxtr02.jpg <- Is that some kind of proof? [16:31] not as good as that entire parade they worked out [16:31] :P [16:31] street view camera? [16:31] infrared: Google street view [16:31] heh - http://www.dxtr.cc/~dexter/pub/vampire.png [16:31] dxtr: wha? i thought their street view was a camera duck taped to a car that drove around [16:31] duct* [16:31] infrared: Yeah? Maybe it is? [16:32] We do have cars in Sweden you know [16:32] i mean Google's street view [16:32] there - this is how most swedes are - http://www.dxtr.cc/~dexter/pub/dxtr04.jpg [16:32] well, i can see why she likes you [16:32] :D [16:32] RandalSchwartz: Haha [16:33] http://www.dxtr.cc/~dexter/pub/bianca09.jpg <-- all virgins [16:33] infrared: How did you know? It's my class :D [16:34] lucky guess :) [16:34] there we go - http://www.dxtr.cc/~dexter/pub/lovisdxtr02.jpg [16:34] RandalSchwartz: I showed it already [16:34] 1http://www.dxtr.cc/~dexter/pub/Bild0009.jpg <- This was outside my apartment this winter btw [16:34] It was horrible [16:35] *** baklava has joined #arpnetworks [16:35] http://www.dxtr.cc/~dexter/pub/dxtrmat01.jpg <- this is pasta, cheese and sausage that my friend and I cooked [16:35] http://www.dxtr.cc/~dexter/pub/dxtr09.jpg <-- are you wearing your girlfiend's shirt? [16:35] It tasted as horrible as it looks [16:35] infrared: Yeah [16:36] She made me :( [16:36] * RandalSchwartz cues the "crackwhip" sound [16:36] Haha. At least I get to hit it ;) [16:36] a small consolation :) [16:37] RandalSchwartz: http://www.dxtr.cc/~dexter/pub/bajs01.jpg for you [16:37] are you in high school? [16:37] yeah [16:37] For another mont [16:37] month* [16:37] Why? [16:37] the prom dress [16:38] Ahha [16:38] Ooh.. #perl [16:38] :) [16:38] Yeah, I'm still learning [16:39] http://www.dxtr.cc/~dexter/pub/truck01.jpg <- I drove that forklift truck when I took my license :D [16:40] lol those twilight pics are hilarious [16:40] my fiance loves those stupid movies [16:40] My girlfriend does too. That's why I'm saving them [16:41] sweden has weird cats [16:41] Haha, why? [16:41] funny looking [16:41] It's an american breed [16:41] So right back at you ;) [16:41] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maine_Coon [16:41] http://www.dxtr.cc/~dexter/pub/index.pl.txt <-- wtf [16:43] It's a script I made for the lols (and for the education!) that lists the files in the directory :) [16:43] i can see that :) [16:43] and i lol'd [16:43] Overkill, but it was fun [16:43] and educational! [16:43] * up_the_irons wonders off [16:44] Please don't be too harsh, infrared. It was the first I did in perl a couple of weeks ago :D [16:44] I was out of ideas [16:45] Perl? [16:45] * RandalSchwartz perks up his ears [16:45] egah [16:45] new CGI::Fast [16:45] ugh ugh [16:46] h1/h4 [16:46] you have no sense of levels :) [16:46] h1 should be over h2 [16:46] not h4 [16:47] Actually when I hacked it together it was more "This is the correct size.. I'll fix it later" [16:47] But I never fixed it [16:47] yeah - don't pick header level by size [16:47] that's... wrong [16:47] Hehe [16:48] I know. But it wasn't supposed to be seen by anyone else but me. But then I never fixed it and people started browsing my public dir ;) [16:49] But hold on for a second now [16:49] aaah [16:49] Now I see it [16:50] print h1($title),h2(),h3(),h4(time_strftime(....)); <- Quick fix :D [16:50] no no [16:50] wrong [16:50] no and wrong [16:50] I was kind of joking [16:51] You know... a joke? [16:51] :) [16:51] doesn't translate [16:51] jøke? :) [16:51] Yeah, kind of [16:52] But don't bash the html. I hate it and would rather have nothing to do with it [16:52] Bash the perl instead :) [16:52] I already did [16:52] "new CGI::Fast" [16:52] wrong [16:52] wrong wrong [16:52] It is? [16:52] yup [16:53] you should write "CGI::Fast->new" [16:53] indirect object notation is harmful [16:53] http://www.perl.com/doc/manual/html/lib/CGI/Fast.html [16:53] then the manual is wrong [16:53] you should read perl docs instead [16:53] Just sayin' :) [16:53] indirect object notation was cute for about two years [16:53] and CGI::Fast isn't core [16:54] so don't blame the core [16:54] blame the third party [16:54] I'm not blaming anything here [16:54] sure you are [16:54] "It is?" [16:54] instead of just "ok, lemme fix it" [16:54] so you're looking to place blame [16:55] At first I was fishing for an explanation [16:55] swedish fishing! [16:55] And then I just said "I just read it here. Please don't hurt me", kind of :P [16:56] yes - all elements of assigning blame [16:56] At least I didn't actively (conciously) try to blame anyone! [16:57] * jdoe blames up_the_irons [16:58] * RandalSchwartz blames dxtr's parents [16:58] RandalSchwartz: Fixed it now \o/ [16:58] * jdoe blames perl [16:58] No no. Perl is sacred [16:58] Perl is good [16:58]