[00:06] <jdoe> yawn.
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[00:46] <up_the_irons> anyone prefer exim over postfix in here?
[00:47] <up_the_irons> toddf: do you happen to use spamd(8) on your mail server? (which i assume is OpenBSD :)
[00:48] <bob^^> up_the_irons: i do
[00:48] <bob^^> i'm an old school exim user, though a lot of friends are advising me to move to postfix
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[00:49] <bob^^> i still prefer exim (maybe just because i understand it)
[00:49] <up_the_irons> i c
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[00:50] <up_the_irons> i've ran qmail for over 10 years, and it is time to switch....
[00:51] <up_the_irons> i think i'm gonna go with postfix, it just has a lot of critical mass and a ton of documentation out there
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[00:59] <toddf> up_the_irons: indeedy I do
[01:01] <up_the_irons> toddf: what's your mta of choice?
[01:02] <bob^^> yeah, postfix seems most popular at the moment
[01:02] <bob^^> i like exim because the config is more like a script
[01:02] <bob^^> and the built in spamd/clamav support saves a lot of hassle
[01:05] <toddf> up_the_irons: I'm oldschool, sendmail for now, looking at smtpd (from OpenBSD, big surprise) but it's got a ways to go for something beyond a simple smtp auth / relay
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[01:19] <up_the_irons> roger
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[05:15] <DaCa> up_the_irons: OpenSMTPD on OpenBSD, Postfix on NetBSD
[05:20] <cedwards> DaCa: is opensmtpd mature enough?
[05:21] <DaCa> cedwards: for simple setups it is, you are supposed to run -current tho if you use it
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[07:42] <Arenlor> Anyone willing to help me debug an issue that I'm assumming is with Bind 9? (On Debian)
[07:43] <bob^^> whats up?
[07:43] <Arenlor> All my other domains are working, but for some odd reason girlwish.com is not
[07:44] <bob^^> can you link to the zone file and the zone config from named.conf ?
[07:44] <Arenlor> Sure, one second.
[07:44] <bob^^> that's the easiest place to start :)
[07:46] <Aila> do you have reverse dns working Arenlor?
[07:47] <Arenlor> On a few of my domains, not all, not enough IPs
[07:48] <Aila> can you link me your zone file for forward & reverse, i'm running debian also and couldn't figure it out
[07:48] <Aila> i tryed many different ways
[07:48] <bob^^> what are you stuck on Aila? just reverse?
[07:48] <Arenlor> Aila for reverse you need to contact support@
[07:48] <Aila> what i nslookup m.y.i.p  it gives me the error  in-addr.arpa NXDOMAIN error
[07:49] <bob^^> yeah - contact support if you want reverse on an ARP vps ip address
[07:49] <Aila> Arenlor, but i'm running my own nameservers...  i thought the point of that was to be able to control your own reverse
[07:49] <Arenlor> https://arenlor.com/named.conf.local and https://arenlor.com/girlwish.com.db are the files you requested bob^^
[07:49] <bob^^> Aila: you can't control your reverse unless someone delegates control to you
[07:49] <bob^^> ARP will have control over their entire subnet, they could choose to delegate a small part of that to you and then you could set it up on your nameserver
[07:49] <Arenlor> Aila, the reverse is done by the IP owner
[07:50] <Aila> so i'll hafta request a reverse address for each ip or will i just be delegated control of it?
[07:50] <bob^^> but if it's just one or two IP addresses, it's more likely they will just maintain reverse for you
[07:50] <bob^^> contact support and ask - up_the_irons will let you know what's best
[07:50] <Aila> i have 13ips and am being frustrated not having my server up to par yet
[07:50] <bob^^> thanks Arenlor, i'll look now
[07:50] <Aila> thx guys i'll contact support to see if they can delegate that to me
[07:50] <bob^^> ah, for 13 i'd be willing to bet you'll get your little subnet delegated
[07:51] <Arenlor> Aila, http://support.arpnetworks.com/faqs/main/reverse-dns
[07:52] <Aila> ok
[07:52] <Aila> one question
[07:52] <Aila> well, nvm
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[08:00] <bob^^> oh
[08:00] <bob^^> he's gone
[08:01] <bob^^> :(
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[08:02] <bob^^> ah-hah :)
[08:02] <bob^^> Arenlor: any errors in your messages or named logs?
[08:02] <bob^^> from a quick look it seems like everything is fine - assuming ns1.arenlor.com and ns2.arenlor.com are the right nameservers
[08:05] <Arenlor> Sorry was off for a minute, not actually sure where my logs would be.
[08:05] <bob^^> tail -f /var/log/messages
[08:05] <bob^^> oh wait, debian
[08:05] * bob^^ rummages
[08:06] <bob^^> /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog
[08:06] <bob^^> are the most likely locations
[08:06] <bob^^> when you restart named you should get a lot of stuff logged about it reloading zones, etc
[08:06] <LT> named-checkconf and named-checkzone are also worth a try... have you double checked the file perms?
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[08:07] <Arenlor> file permissions, I always forget to chown them
[08:07] <Arenlor> Thanks for that
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[08:29] <dxtr> Damn.
[08:29] <dxtr> Transmission didnt' work well at high speeds
[08:29] <dxtr> didn't
[08:36] <lucky> dxtr: bittorrent?
[08:36] <lucky> rtorrent tends to have very good efficiency and throughput
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[11:14] <Aila> hi anyone available to lend me a hand with bind9
[11:15] <RandalSchwartz> I might be able to help
[11:15] <Aila> i had it setup and working properly until i thought it was something wrong with my config and it turns out i hafta ask for delegation of my ip block in order for reverse to work but now...  i even broke the forward from working :/
[11:15] <cedwards> I'd suggest 'named-checkconf /path/to/named.conf' and see what/where it complains.
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[11:18] <RandalSchwartz> aila - did that show any problems?
[11:19] <Aila> ye
[11:19] <Aila> i'm working on it
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[14:33] <awyeah> named-checkconf.  neat.
[14:33] <awyeah> learn something new every day.
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[14:46] <cedwards> awyeah: and named-checkzone
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[20:04] <RandalSchwartz> what are the USB devices that my kernel is seeing?
[20:04] <cedwards> RandalSchwartz: I've wondered that myself. Let me know if/what you find out.
[20:05] <RandalSchwartz> and is /dev/iso9660/ already mounted?
[20:05] <RandalSchwartz> or do I need to mount it?
[20:06] <RandalSchwartz> and if so, how
[20:11] <RandalSchwartz> ahh.  mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /mnt
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[23:11] <jdoe> RandalSchwartz: virtual hardware? kbd/mouse?
[23:11] <jdoe> RandalSchwartz: ... or maybe just virtual controllers