#arpnetworks 2010-05-11,Tue

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dxtrHello! [04:59]
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cedwardshello [05:01]
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dxtrWhat's up? [05:02]
cedwardsnot much. just getting into work. [05:04]
dxtrHow come my server stopped doing cron jobs?
i've got one cron job (1am every day) for root that isn't run and one cron job for my regular user (every 5 minutes) that isn't run
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ziyourenxiangis your cron daemon running? [05:13]
dxtrYep
dexter@bowser:~ $ ps aux|grep cron
root 719 0.0 0.2 6920 988 ?? Ss 19Mar10 0:19.85 /usr/sbin/cron -s
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ziyourenxianghmm, dunno, never had cron not work on me before. [05:16]
DaCa/var/cron/log might give a clue [05:17]
dxtrDaCa: Doesn't say shit actually :/
No errors, no nothing
Looks like everything is okay there
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cedwardsare zfs snapshots on regular intervals a good way to keep incremental backups of jails? [05:29]
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i think it is time for a pre-work nap [06:04]
bob^^dxtr: paths?
i've broken paths before which has broken cronjobs (as cron can't find the commands, etc)
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dxtrI use full paths
And yes, I know they are correct
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cedwardsanyone use distcc on FreeBSD? I don't think I've got it working.. [10:18]
finkcedwards: sorry :( [10:26]
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Ailahi i am have trouble with my reverse zone file using bind9, when i do a nslookup m.y.i.p i get an error "** server can't find m.y.i.p.in-addr.arpa.: NXDOMAIN [14:06]
bob^^what does your zone definition from named.conf look like?
(and are you querying the authoritative server when you test?)
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up_the_ironsanyone know of a monitoring solution that will "learn" what is a "good" threshold and what is "bad" and then alert based on that?
my friend is finding nagios too "static"
like lower traffic for the weekend is OK, but traffic that low for the week can be condition for alert. technically, you can do this in nagios, but it becomes cumbersome to maintain
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jdoesimilarly, learning systems can learn bad behaviour too.
if it were my system I'd set different alert conditions by time.
... to answer the question you actually asked though (;)) no suggestions, sorry.
how often does he expect his traffic to change that dramatically though?
I mean if it's changing often enough for updating nagios to be a pain, any learning system is going to be just as wrong.
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RandalSchwartzyeay - figured out how to make my airport extreme at home tunnel my he.net ipv6, so now I have v6 at home
between that and miredo, I can use ipv6 everywhere now
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up_the_ironsjdoe: i c
RandalSchwartz: my airport extreme tunneled automatically (finds 6to4 anycast router). did this method not work well for u?
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RandalSchwartzgotta love it... testing ipv6 connectivity, ran this:
socat -v tcp6-l:9999,reuseaddr,fork system:'date'
it's a little date client running on port 9999 v6
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up_the_ironsnice [18:21]
jdoejdoe is boring and uses telnet [18:22]
RandalSchwartzwell yeah, you test it with "telnet thathost 9999"
if you can get to it, you have v6
socat is *really* amazing though
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up_the_ironstacos [18:25]
RandalSchwartzoh yeah, it does spell that backwards :) [18:26]
up_the_ironshehe
i recently realized that too
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jdoeup_the_irons: hmm. Looks like you missed a ptr record for 174.136.97.245, do you want a ticket for that or is asking in here enough? [18:54]
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cedwardshow can I 'portmaster -af', but ignore one port? [19:17]
up_the_ironsjdoe: ticket please [19:21]
jdoeok. [19:24]
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mike-burnscedwards: -x [19:57]
cedwardsmike-burns: I ended up using 'touch /var/db/pkg/<package>/+IGNOREME' [19:58]
mike-burnsAh, interesting. [19:58]
cedwardsportmaster then prompts ith a 'this is marked ignore. build anyway? [n]' [20:00]
mike-burnsI had no idea. Is that in the ports(7) manpage? [20:01]
cedwardsportmaster manpage. [20:01]
mike-burnsAh. [20:01]
cedwardslearn something new everyday [20:02]
WraithanYou guys know about ~. in SSH? [20:03]
mike-burnsYup. [20:03]
cedwardsyep. use it regularly. [20:03]
mike-burnsI have to use it far too often. [20:03]
WraithanI just learned it (among the other ones) [20:03]
cedwardsWraithan: did you know about ~? in ssh? [20:03]
WraithanI've always just killed the terminal and re-ssh'd
cedwards: just learned it
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cedwardsstrange the things you pick up that seem so simple.
i've got an admin i've worked with for about two years who didn't know pgup in the shell (shift-pgup)
he'd pipe *everything* through less instead.
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Wraithanhaha
Well you work with what you've got
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cedwardstrue
i think i'll turn on Shaun of the Dead to wind down tonite :)
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WraithanLike I never imagined there was an escape sequence to drop an SSH session [20:09]
cedwardsi still say ssh is the greatest achievement of humankind. space travel? pfft.
a good terminal and ssh comprise 95% of my day.
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WraithanUsed to be that way for me
Now I use emacs with it's GUI instead of via a terminal
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cedwardseven now I'm on my EeePC with FreeBSD 8.0, dwm and urxvt{d,c}. All I need.
sweet. ccache+distcc and I just rebuilt every port on this machine in 12m
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luckyThe first computer I used was a Mac.
Draw your own conclusions.
=)
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RandalSchwartzugh - upgrading perl 5.10 to perl 5.10.1 just lost me two hours of my webserver :)
but now I know the proper way to do it
an "in-place" upgrade fails
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jdoenot feeling 5.12? [22:17]
RandalSchwartzyou have to save a package list, shut down all services, uninstall perl *and* all its depends, then install perl and one by one install the depends
no port for 5.12 yet
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jdoehaha. That's generally how I upgrade perl :P [22:17]
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jdoeoh, freebsd. Yeah. I got the feeling when I did 5.8 -> 5.10 that it wasn't something they really encouraged.
... and in fairness that's almost what had to be done for 5.8 -> 5.10
the upgrade in place worked, sorta, you just had to rebuild everything that even looked at perl afterwards.
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RandalSchwartzyeah... well, now that's the new plan :)
I was trying to avoid 15 minutes of downtime
and ended up spending an hour trying to figure out how to recover
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luckyStill no word on the VPS shortage? [22:29]
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jdoeRandalSchwartz: ha [23:19]

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