#arpnetworks 2010-05-01,Sat

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cedwardswell that's not good. my host just hard locked. [09:07]
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nbariany VPS like this but in europe ?
specially with FreeBSD
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cedwardsthis is not how I wanted to spend my saturday.
anytime I upload a file (via WP) the machine seems to hard lock.
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WraithanWraithan uses his own django based solution for blogging [10:54]
cedwardsI'm lazy, plus I host blogs for family so I like WP for being super easy. [10:55]
CRowenips many vps can be ordered? [10:55]
cedwardsbut the strangest thing is I can replicate this hard-lock by simply uploading through WP. [10:55]
WraithanCRowen: rephrase the question please, I don't understand [10:56]
CESSMASTERoh wooh looks like i got an account like a week before they sold out [10:56]
cedwardsCRowen: beyond what is listed on the site simply requires proper reasoning. [10:56]
mhoran[jUaReZ]cedwards: Is this on your VPS? FreeBSD? lighttpd, per chance? [10:56]
CRowenso many ips can apply for a vps server
cedwards, ok, thanks
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cedwardsmhoran[jUaReZ]: FreeBSD with lighttpd. I've been running lighttpd on a Debian VPS for ~2yrs and have never seen this. [10:57]
WraithanCRowen: do you mean how many IPs can you get with a VPS? [10:57]
mhoran[jUaReZ]Yeah. It's a FreeBSD bug. [10:57]
CRowenYou can order more ips additional apart from the vps that I have? [10:58]
mhoran[jUaReZ]cedwards: Add server.network-backend = "writev"
to your config.
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cedwardsmhoran[jUaReZ]: good call. i haven't done any tuning on this installation yet, and I do get a good deal of traffic. [10:59]
WraithanMy blog gets very little traffic heh [11:00]
mhoran[jUaReZ]Yeah. It's goofy. I battled with the same problem for a while, box kept locking up and I had no idea why. Then I realized every time I uploaded a file in webmail, the server went down. :) [11:00]
cedwardslooking at my old config, I did have quite a bit of tuning added.
let me try these options and see where it getsm e.
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mhoran[jUaReZ]Good luck! [11:02]
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cedwardsI hope that did the trick.
almost afraid to test it lol
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mhoran[jUaReZ]cedwards: I hear ya. [11:20]
cedwardsyou'd think they could make a setting like that a default in ports.
I'm glad you mentioned something, or I'd still be puzzled. I was only using ~100M mem..
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mhoran[jUaReZ]The network backend that it autodetects is there, but broken for some reason. Last time I checked there was little to no activity towards getting it fixed. [11:22]
cedwardshow did you track it down? do/did those errors get logged anywhere? [11:25]
mhoran[jUaReZ]No logs. It was tough, because most of the time it worked -- but sometimes there was a threshold that I'd pass, and the machine would lock up.
I think I just searched diligently for FreeBSD lighttpd file upload lockups.
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cedwardsand it looks like, on my old config, that I did define the backend explicitly. perhaps that's why I never ran into it there. [11:27]
mhoran[jUaReZ]Ah, interesting.
I think it does work on Linux, though.
Just whatever it autodetects on FreeBSD is busted.
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cedwardshow many of these suggestions have you done? http://redmine.lighttpd.net/wiki/1/Docs:Performance [11:28]
mhoran[jUaReZ]It's busted on my VPS, which is 7.2. Was also busted in 6.2. What are you running it on? [11:28]
cedwardscan you comment on the kldload suggestion near the bottom?
I'm on 8.0p2
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mhoran[jUaReZ]I've my event-handler set to freebsd-kqueue. That's pretty much it. No harm in turning on the accept filter, I'd go ahead and load that up. [11:29]
cedwardsnot sure I understand what that is supposed to do, but if it's suggested... [11:29]
mhoran[jUaReZ]man accf_filter -- basically keeps junk clients from clogging up lighttpd threads until a full request is received.
Pretty nifty.
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cedwardsagain, I think it's reasons like this that ARP community could really benefit from a wiki! [11:30]
mhoran[jUaReZ]Yeah, I think the wiki would be a great idea. [11:30]
cedwardsup_the_irons: ping [11:31]
mhoran[jUaReZ]But IRC is a start. :) [11:31]
cedwardsfor sure
I've brought it up a few times, and I still think it is a good idea. I'd like to have (un)official approval from up_the_irons before I do anything though.
I'd be happy to host it even, if that's an issue.
I just don't want to create one, on one of my domains and have it disconnected/unofficial, ya know.
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is there anything better than top for monitoring on FreeBSD? On Linux I've grown to appreciate htop.. [12:05]
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Wraithancedwards: http://www.freebsdsoftware.org/sysutils/htop.html [12:20]
cedwardsWraithan: I've installed that before, but it requires the full linux_base stuff..
I was hoping for something a little more.. native.
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WraithanAh ok, didn't know [12:26]
cedwardsman I really should have thought about lowering the TTL on my DNS server prior to this migration.
I'm going to have to wait at least 86400 for most things to update :(
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cedwardscedwards just learned about newsyslog for logrotation. slick. [20:01]
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up_the_ironscedwards: i don't mind if you host an unofficial wiki
if it ends up being useful and i find the time, we can migrate it to something I host and make it "official"
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