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   cedwards: morning
   BarberRonny: slaam
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   jdoe: hey... your signup page has 1 IP (/30 subnet) ... am I missing something? Isn't a /30 4? (or 3 I guess)
   RandalSchwartz: netmask, broadcast, router, and you
   <br> 4 ips consumed
   <br> so a /29 gives you netmask, broadcast, router, and 5 for you
   <br> and /28 gives you... well, do the math
   jdoe: ah, right.
   cedwards: network math is tricky ;)
   -: jdoe coughs and shuffles off
   jdoe: it's only 10am, have mercy ;)
   RandalSchwartz: it's 5 o'clock somewhere!
   cedwards: <u>jdoe</u>: don't feel bad. I was troubleshooting SSL issues by 6:00am. That is not a good combination..
   DaCa: bonsoir
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   jdoe: <u>RandalSchwartz</u>: that doesn't require critical thinking skills
   cedwards: not sure that requires _any_ thinking skills
   jdoe: reptile brain level. "Food goes in here"
   <br> s/food/booze/
   cedwards: that reminds me. lunch time!
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   cedwards: I just need to say that I hate my life.
   <br> two days shy of May and it's SNOWING OUTSIDE. don't like.
   fink: where??
   cedwards: SLC
   DaCa: spitsbergen
   cedwards: i am disappoint
   jdoe: <u>cedwards</u>: isn't SLC up in the mountains? what do you expect?
   cedwards: <u>jdoe</u>: I expect that it's May already!
   jdoe: pfft, there's still snow in the mountains here.
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   jahshua: hey all
   <br> I am having chflags issues on my FreeBSD vps, chflags schg is seeming to have no effect? I am really stuck no idea what I could have done to fubar this. for instance in /bin if i do ls -ol
   <br> i want to set schg flags on the bins. by comparison on my freinds machine that i just fixed up for him
   <br> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root 7.1K Apr 23 18:56 uuidgen*
   <br> ong my vps^
   <br> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  schg   7240 Apr 23 18:43 uuidgen*
   <br> my friends one
   <br> i ran chflags schg * in /bin
   <br> seems to have no effect
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   cedwards: what do you all prefer for a webserver?
   mike-burns: nginx
   <br> It's lightweight and minimalistic.
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   jwfoxjr: If I buy a vps with FreeBSD 8.0, is it i386 or x86_64? Thanks.
   mike-burns: amd64
   jwfoxjr: mike-burns: and if I want to add another VPS, and have purchased multiple IP's would it be part of that block?
   cedwards: <u>jwfoxjr</u>: likely. I have two and the IP list that I have is within the same block.
   <br> mike-burns: I tried nginx a while back.. can't remember now the issue I had with it.
   <br> mike-burns: I've been using lighttpd for a few years now.
   jwfoxjr: I'm debating whether to keep my Ubuntu VPS and just have the FreeBSD cd mounted and build new or buy another VPS
   <br> I'm sure ARP woudl be happy if I bought another VPS :)
   cedwards: I'm sure they would :)
   <br> are you considering FreeBSD to try it out, or do you already have experience with it?
   jwfoxjr: <u>cedwards</u>: I've worked with it, but not extensively. It's taken me a while to get used to where things are and how things are done after years of working with Linux
   <br> I've built a few development vm's in virtualbox with freebsd
   cedwards: <u>jwfoxjr</u>: I spent lots of time building and tinkering with FreeBSD at home (for free) before I started paying to use it.
   <br> <u>jwfoxjr</u>: but if that isn't an issue for you, there are plenty of us that use FreeBSD here that are happy to help.
   <br> bed time for this guy.
   <br> <u>jwfoxjr</u>: ARP has been great so far. I'd recommend it, if you're on the fence.
   RandalSchwartz: me too
   jwfoxjr: hey RandalSchwartz how have you been?
   RandalSchwartz: busy
   -: RandalSchwartz grins
   RandalSchwartz: day job, and all that
   <br> good to be that busy
   jwfoxjr: yeah definately a different background for FLOSS Weekly the last couple of weeks :)
   RandalSchwartz: I was giddy for the mars rover guys
   <br> can't believe I lost it that bad. :)
   jwfoxjr: I tried to listen live, buy day job and all...I'm waiting for it to hit the iTunes.
   <br> s/buy/but/g
   RandalSchwartz: it's gonna go down as one of the best, top ten easily
   <br> I keep saying "how can i top this" though
   <br> I thought getting Tim O'Reilly was good.
   <br> before that, Simon Phipps
   <br> then Linus himself
   <br> but these guys were a lot more fun than even the Linus interview
   <br> and preceded by the JMRI story
   <br> FLOSS Weekly is turning into quite a show
   jwfoxjr: My top 3 fav's in order that aren't projects were Linus/DHH/Randi Harper
   <br> I think it's just because of the candidness of the guests
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   Wraithan: Looks like I will have the time this weekend to start my ARP account
   RandalSchwartz: cool!
   Wraithan: Yeah, I am looking forward to it
   <br> Will save me 15/mo
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   nbari: hi all how can i verity that the dns reverse delegation is working properly ?
   <br> i am doing a dig -x 174.136.103.210 or host 174.136.103.210 but get an ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
   RandalSchwartz: by saying host 174.136.103.218
   <br> oh - then it's not
   <br> so are you having arp serve that?
   nbari: host 74.136.103.218 als does an ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
   RandalSchwartz: or are you needing to serve that yourself?
   nbari: serve my self
   RandalSchwartz: and is the right delegation in place?
   nbari: queryng the dns server seems to work dig @pool.ddns.mx -x 174.136.103.210
   <br> just want to be sure 100% that is not an error from my side
   <br> maybe something is missing on the delegation part
   RandalSchwartz: 103.136.174.in-addr.arpa is still owned by arp
   nbari: any hint on how to fix it ?
   RandalSchwartz: yes submit a request
   <br> tell them to delegate to you
   <br> but be f'ing sure you are delivering the right reverse record
   nbari: in theory i am but for some reasson not working
   RandalSchwartz: yeah - the delegation isn;'tthere
   <br> simple request to support
   <br> because asking your machine gives me arp.stablum.net
   <br> so it's a delgation issue
   <br> host -a 210.103.136.174.in-addr.arpa pool.ddns.mx
   nbari: right
   RandalSchwartz: taht works
   nbari: any good tool for monitoring IPSEC vpn's ?
   RandalSchwartz: monitoring?
   nbari: yes I have a VPN but if for some reasson the VPN goes down I would like to automatically put it up
   RandalSchwartz: what does "go down" mean, and what would be the recovery?
   nbari: go down would be something like stop responding pings
   <br> and the solution could be to restar the vpn maybe flusing the ipsec values
   <br> or racoon
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