hm how long do suport emails usually take to be answered? :/ I have sent two yesterday with no responce at all. aem: i sent one yesterday and got a response by evening. aem: spam filter? nah, its not in there hey does anyone know will arp make PTR record for you if requested? sure cool thanks coil now if they will just email me back :) RandalSchwartz? what do the admins think about setting up a VPS wiki? I'm sure that'd be beneficial (and ease up the support requests). wiki wiki cedwards: Actually I think most people who get a vps here knows what they are doing .P it would be nice to share discoveries though thats what you think! lol other than by sitting in IRC I think its a great idea cedwards dxtr: I think that is the idea, but we've had plenty of support requests and troubleshoot conversations. dxtr: while it is aimed at skilled users, I think it'd be helpful to share common things we've seen so far. cedwards: "Today I saw a tree" you know what i mean cedwards: i think it's a good idea RandalSchwartz: i think i found out what was locking me out what? on boot, member:openvpn starts after pf; my pf.conf refers to tun0, but pf can't find that interface, so it can't parse its config file, so i get this error: pfctl: Syntax error in config file: pf rules not loaded; which results in me being locked out after boot -member eww. that may be my situation too so what's the workaround? yeah - I refer to tun0 in my pf too RandalSchwartz: just tried rc.conf's cloned_interfaces, that didn't work i'm going to try /boot/loader.conf So... How's life guys? And old man RandalSchwartz ofcourse hehe pretty good dxtr No plans of getting doomsday drunk or something tonight? Hmm. I had no problem restarting pf with no tun0 device RandalSchwartz: maybe it's this pf rule of mine: `pass inet proto $int_proto from { lo, $localnet, $vpn_if } to any` dmesg says: ,o IP address found for tun0:network, /etc/pf.conf:148: could not parse host specification hmm. I don't have one of those that should be "no" RandalSchwartz: btw thanks for your help the other day RandalSchwartz: got it! i wrapped the 'tun' in pf.conf with parentheses : ( tun ), or more specifically: ( $vpn_if ) hey, i'm having trouble sending function keys to my server on VNC. i'm on a macbook. I know I must be messing up the key combos for function keys anyone have an idea homosaur: what's your vpn client? i haven't tried vnc on my mac, sorry. using chicken of vnc aha - there ya go homosaur: i had trouble with chicken too, which i like try jollysfastvnc fink: okay, taking a look fink: i could never figure out how to enter a password homosaur: a password for what? jolly allows you to paste as text into the vnc window fink: the vnc server. there is a box for it on chicken homosaur: it asks you for a password after you click connect homosaur: it's ok, i have 'duh' moments too ;) ok, it's outside time! fink: i don't know then, it just isn't working fink: oh i see, you have to activate the software homosaur: free activation fink: yep, it sure worked dang, i really wish i could figure out what is going on with chicken. i sure would like to not have to pay $40 for a vnc client oh i guess jollysfastvnc is optional pay. i guess i will use it for a couple of weeks and i'll send some cash if i find that i'm using it broke down and just placed my order for my second machine. heheh I was thinmking of getting an openbsd one "you can't eat just one" :) aem: I installed openbsd at work in my lab yesterday. Seemed to me like a less user-friendly version of freebsd. ..along with some odd security claims. theo's paranoia helped me sleep at night for 8 years :) but having made the jump recently to freebsd, I'm not looking back cedwards: yeah but for some reason I like it ;-/ I may continue to play with it in my lab, but I don't expect to move any production services to it. this second one will likely replace my Debian stable Linode, putting all but my home mail server on FreeBSD. cedwards: but only openbsd has opensmtpd :) interesting. just read up on that. up_the_irons: hey, just wanted to know if there is a way to see the status of a new VPS mick_laptop: not really a friend that i recommended just bought one today, wanted to know if I could help him set it up today, or tomorrow i think it takes ~1 day mick_laptop: yeah i'll most likely do all orders today / tonight; i slept a lot last night (sorry to those two had open support requests that I didn't get to), so I'll be up all night tonight working :) hey up_the_irons thanks for setting my PTR but I kinda messsed up, meant for it to be rip. in front of it.. whenever ya have a minute :) aem: just reply to the threat... or i'll get confused :) *thread hehe okey dokey, I shot you an email there as reply :) how is ipv6 reverse dns done with arp? http://support.arpnetworks.com/faqs/main/reverse-dns yeah I read that then I googled ipv6 reverse dns and read lots of pages ;-/ noob stylez cedwards: regarding a wiki; i generally see it as another thing to have to maintain (spam, etc...), although I like the idea of sharing knowledge. i'm a little partial toward wiki's (in a bad way) b/c I've seen so many that suck. lots of un-curated information by people that can't write, is kinda worse than no info at all aem: ipv6 is a big subject :) hehe I bet its pretty daunting to me alright :P i'm still reading RFCs on it... yeah I read the RFC :-( will read again heh up_the_irons: would I be using a tunnel broker? am I on the righ track? hehe you don't need a tunnel broker not for the VPS box okay hmm back to square one damn up_the_irons: we're going to beat you in the playoffs ;) the vps box has ipv6 already allocated the allocation is listed on your portal page if you're running a nameserver, you can have the entire reverse delegated to you, or you can ask for just a few specific reverses. in that sense it's just like v4. ah great thank you I wonder how many ipv6 reverse is acceptable I will email and ask :) cheers RandalSchwartz ouch! well - if you're gonna do more than a few, you should just man-up and take the delegation. :) yes that means learning how to run a DNS server right? (fear) lol it's not that hard the tricky part is finding a willing secondary someone told me that I can run dns from my own vps for myself, but thats rubbish right? it must be a seperate machine eh? no & no amdprophet: :) :P aem: no tunnel broker needed on the vps hey guys, i'm new with dealing with mail and i wanted to know what is the least amount of software i can run to send mails out from the server. i do not need to receive mail at this server the default sendmail will do that but I'd put postfix on, just in case more options, especially for throttling aem: you can run a dns server on the vps itself, but usually people do it on another box for increased reliability and you'll still need to find a geographically diverse secondary up_the_irons, you make it sound as if the vps is not reliable :-) RandalSchwartz: postfix, gotcha. that's what i figured i should use ziyourenxiang: i know, i was afraid it might sound that way ;) ok cheers for the info guys homosaur: If you just want outbound email from the server(s) for things like reports I stick with regular, default sendmail. homosaur: if you're going to allow connections from the outside world, postfix is much better. postfix wins on security definitely. but if its just bound to localhost so the machine can report to you, I don't worry about it.