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| aem | hm
how long do suport emails usually take to be answered? :/ I have sent two yesterday with no responce at all. | [05:24] |
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| cedwards | aem: i sent one yesterday and got a response by evening.
aem: spam filter? | [06:13] |
| aem | nah, its not in there | [06:13] |
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| aem | hey does anyone know will arp make PTR record for you if requested? | [08:15] |
| coil | sure | [08:15] |
| aem | cool thanks coil
now if they will just email me back :) | [08:15] |
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| fink | RandalSchwartz? | [08:36] |
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| cedwards | what do the admins think about setting up a VPS wiki? I'm sure that'd be beneficial (and ease up the support requests). | [09:19] |
| homosaur | wiki wiki | [09:20] |
| dxtr | cedwards: Actually I think most people who get a vps here knows what they are doing .P | [09:23] |
| RandalSchwartz | it would be nice to share discoveries though | [09:24] |
| aem | thats what you think!
lol | [09:24] |
| RandalSchwartz | other than by sitting in IRC | [09:24] |
| aem | I think its a great idea cedwards | [09:24] |
| cedwards | dxtr: I think that is the idea, but we've had plenty of support requests and troubleshoot conversations.
dxtr: while it is aimed at skilled users, I think it'd be helpful to share common things we've seen so far. | [09:26] |
| dxtr | cedwards: "Today I saw a tree" | [09:26] |
| cedwards | you know what i mean | [09:27] |
| fink | cedwards: i think it's a good idea
RandalSchwartz: i think i found out what was locking me out | [09:32] |
| RandalSchwartz | what? | [09:32] |
| fink | on boot, member:openvpn starts after pf; my pf.conf refers to tun0, but pf can't find that interface, so it can't parse its config file, so i get this error: pfctl: Syntax error in config file: pf rules not loaded; which results in me being locked out after boot
-member | [09:33] |
| RandalSchwartz | eww. that may be my situation too
so what's the workaround? yeah - I refer to tun0 in my pf too | [09:34] |
| fink | RandalSchwartz: just tried rc.conf's cloned_interfaces, that didn't work
i'm going to try /boot/loader.conf | [09:35] |
| dxtr | So... How's life guys?
And old man RandalSchwartz ofcourse | [09:36] |
| aem | hehe
pretty good dxtr | [09:38] |
| dxtr | No plans of getting doomsday drunk or something tonight? | [09:39] |
| RandalSchwartz | Hmm. I had no problem restarting pf with no tun0 device | [09:40] |
| fink | RandalSchwartz: maybe it's this pf rule of mine: `pass inet proto $int_proto from { lo, $localnet, $vpn_if } to any`
dmesg says: ,o IP address found for tun0:network, /etc/pf.conf:148: could not parse host specification | [09:43] |
| RandalSchwartz | hmm. I don't have one of those | [09:44] |
| fink | that should be "no"
RandalSchwartz: btw thanks for your help the other day | [09:44] |
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| RandalSchwartz: got it! i wrapped the 'tun' in pf.conf with parentheses : ( tun ), or more specifically: ( $vpn_if )
fink celebrates | [10:09] | |
| homosaur | hey, i'm having trouble sending function keys to my server on VNC. i'm on a macbook. I know I must be messing up the key combos for function keys
anyone have an idea | [10:09] |
| fink | homosaur: what's your vpn client? | [10:09] |
| cedwards | i haven't tried vnc on my mac, sorry. | [10:09] |
| homosaur | using chicken of vnc | [10:11] |
| RandalSchwartz | aha - there ya go | [10:12] |
| fink | homosaur: i had trouble with chicken too, which i like
try jollysfastvnc | [10:12] |
| homosaur | fink: okay, taking a look | [10:13] |
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| homosaur | fink: i could never figure out how to enter a password | [11:13] |
| fink | homosaur: a password for what?
jolly allows you to paste as text into the vnc window | [11:13] |
| homosaur | fink: the vnc server. there is a box for it on chicken | [11:13] |
| fink | homosaur: it asks you for a password after you click connect
homosaur: it's ok, i have 'duh' moments too ;) ok, it's outside time! | [11:14] |
| homosaur | fink: i don't know then, it just isn't working
fink: oh i see, you have to activate the software | [11:16] |
| fink | homosaur: free activation | [11:19] |
| homosaur | fink: yep, it sure worked
dang, i really wish i could figure out what is going on with chicken. i sure would like to not have to pay $40 for a vnc client oh i guess jollysfastvnc is optional pay. i guess i will use it for a couple of weeks and i'll send some cash if i find that i'm using it | [11:20] |
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| cedwards | broke down and just placed my order for my second machine. | [13:39] |
| aem | heheh
I was thinmking of getting an openbsd one | [13:40] |
| RandalSchwartz | "you can't eat just one" :) | [13:40] |
| cedwards | aem: I installed openbsd at work in my lab yesterday. Seemed to me like a less user-friendly version of freebsd.
..along with some odd security claims. | [13:43] |
| RandalSchwartz | theo's paranoia helped me sleep at night for 8 years :)
but having made the jump recently to freebsd, I'm not looking back | [13:44] |
| aem | cedwards: yeah but for some reason I like it ;-/ | [13:45] |
| cedwards | I may continue to play with it in my lab, but I don't expect to move any production services to it.
this second one will likely replace my Debian stable Linode, putting all but my home mail server on FreeBSD. | [13:47] |
| DaCa | cedwards: but only openbsd has opensmtpd :) | [13:57] |
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| cedwards | interesting. just read up on that. | [14:06] |
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| mick_laptop | up_the_irons: hey, just wanted to know if there is a way to see the status of a new VPS | [16:39] |
| up_the_irons | mick_laptop: not really | [16:40] |
| mick_laptop | a friend that i recommended just bought one today, wanted to know if I could help him set it up today, or tomorrow
i think it takes ~1 day | [16:40] |
| up_the_irons | mick_laptop: yeah i'll most likely do all orders today / tonight; i slept a lot last night (sorry to those two had open support requests that I didn't get to), so I'll be up all night tonight working :) | [16:46] |
| aem | hey up_the_irons thanks for setting my PTR but I kinda messsed up, meant for it to be rip. in front of it.. whenever ya have a minute :) | [16:54] |
| up_the_irons | aem: just reply to the threat... or i'll get confused :)
*thread | [16:54] |
| aem | hehe okey dokey, I shot you an email there as reply
:) | [16:55] |
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| aem | how is ipv6 reverse dns done with arp? | [17:27] |
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| up_the_irons | http://support.arpnetworks.com/faqs/main/reverse-dns | [17:53] |
| aem | yeah I read that
then I googled ipv6 reverse dns and read lots of pages ;-/ noob stylez | [18:03] |
| up_the_irons | cedwards: regarding a wiki; i generally see it as another thing to have to maintain (spam, etc...), although I like the idea of sharing knowledge. i'm a little partial toward wiki's (in a bad way) b/c I've seen so many that suck. lots of un-curated information by people that can't write, is kinda worse than no info at all | [18:09] |
| aem: ipv6 is a big subject :) | [18:14] | |
| aem | hehe I bet
its pretty daunting to me alright :P | [18:15] |
| up_the_irons | i'm still reading RFCs on it... | [18:15] |
| aem | yeah I read the RFC :-(
will read again heh | [18:15] |
| up_the_irons: would I be using a tunnel broker? am I on the righ track? hehe | [18:26] | |
| RandalSchwartz | you don't need a tunnel broker
not for the VPS box | [18:28] |
| aem | okay hmm
back to square one damn aem snaps fingers | [18:30] |
| amdprophet | up_the_irons: we're going to beat you in the playoffs ;) | [18:31] |
| RandalSchwartz | the vps box has ipv6 already allocated
the allocation is listed on your portal page if you're running a nameserver, you can have the entire reverse delegated to you, or you can ask for just a few specific reverses. in that sense it's just like v4. RandalSchwartz wonders if any of that helped. ) | [18:36] |
| aem | ah great | [18:42] |
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| aem | thank you
I wonder how many ipv6 reverse is acceptable I will email and ask :) cheers RandalSchwartz | [18:42] |
| RandalSchwartz | RandalSchwartz bows
RandalSchwartz hits head on desk ouch! well - if you're gonna do more than a few, you should just man-up and take the delegation. :) | [18:43] |
| aem | yes that means learning how to run a DNS server right? (fear)
lol | [18:44] |
| RandalSchwartz | it's not that hard
the tricky part is finding a willing secondary | [18:44] |
| aem | someone told me that I can run dns from my own vps for myself, but thats rubbish right? it must be a seperate machine eh? | [18:45] |
| ziyourenxiang | no & no | [18:47] |
| up_the_irons | amdprophet: :) | [18:47] |
| amdprophet | :P | [18:47] |
| up_the_irons | aem: no tunnel broker needed on the vps | [18:47] |
| homosaur | hey guys, i'm new with dealing with mail and i wanted to know what is the least amount of software i can run to send mails out from the server. i do not need to receive mail at this server | [18:47] |
| RandalSchwartz | the default sendmail will do that
but I'd put postfix on, just in case more options, especially for throttling | [18:48] |
| up_the_irons | aem: you can run a dns server on the vps itself, but usually people do it on another box for increased reliability | [18:48] |
| RandalSchwartz | and you'll still need to find a geographically diverse secondary | [18:49] |
| ziyourenxiang | up_the_irons, you make it sound as if the vps is not reliable :-) | [18:49] |
| homosaur | RandalSchwartz: postfix, gotcha. that's what i figured i should use | [18:49] |
| up_the_irons | ziyourenxiang: i know, i was afraid it might sound that way ;) | [18:49] |
| aem | ok
cheers for the info guys | [18:53] |
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| cedwards | homosaur: If you just want outbound email from the server(s) for things like reports I stick with regular, default sendmail.
homosaur: if you're going to allow connections from the outside world, postfix is much better. | [19:51] |
| fink | postfix wins on security | [19:51] |
| cedwards | definitely. but if its just bound to localhost so the machine can report to you, I don't worry about it. | [19:53] |
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