[00:05] *** fink has quit IRC (Quit: fink) [01:26] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [01:36] litebread: mean took about 24 hours, it's worth the wait :) [02:04] *** amdprophet has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [02:18] *** amdprophet has joined #arpnetworks [04:18] *** schmir has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [04:27] litebread: be patiant [04:27] ie* [04:42] infrared: I hope that typo means you're still trying ;) [04:42] yes :) [04:42] im chugging along [04:44] that's great! [04:44] its just frustrating [04:49] ohh I know exactly what you're talking about. [04:49] I'm sure (I hope) you've noticed some improvement though. [04:57] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [04:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [05:10] oh hey guys [05:11] mine was setup about 3/4 hours ago while i was sleeping, [05:11] im up early for my birthday and all people call and wake me up, lol [05:12] good thing they did however, and yes it was worth the wait [05:34] Welcome aboard! [05:35] heya! [05:35] if I bought extra ipv4's should they be in my /etc/rc.conf ? [05:35] or do i add the aliases myself? [05:39] aem: I'd guess, if they are not on your system already, they'll be found on the support portal. [05:39] aem: I see that my IP information is listed there. [05:39] Add them yourself. [05:40] oh cool, did not notice the portal [05:48] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [05:53] what is with the partial billing business? [05:54] can i go ahead and pay my next month now? for 01may10 - also [05:55] *** amdprophet has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [06:05] *** amdprophet has joined #arpnetworks [06:06] is mike burns or up_the_irons around? [06:10] *** schmir has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [06:30] litebread: I'm not an admin, BTW, just a customer with IRC op. [06:33] oh its just a gen. question, if u dont mind me asking? [06:34] i did not see in the email how to pay ''advanced'' payments, as a customer maybe you have done this before? [06:34] also checked the site [06:35] I believe up_the_irons has done advanced payments before. You should email support@ and he'll get back to you. [06:37] ok thank you very much, i have been prorated until the first and id like to pay may, prob june also [06:37] ill email now, ty :) [06:42] It sucks that I know I might have to drop my vps when I quit school :( [06:44] Or.. well... When I finish school so to speak :P [06:46] oh [06:47] where you going to school? [06:47] i went to LSU [06:47] litebread: John Bauer-gymnasiet ;) [06:47] I'm in Sweden [06:47] cool [06:47] And I'm not in university (uet) [06:47] (yet) [06:47] brb guys, birthday breakfast [06:48] I never get a birthday breakfast :D [06:48] I get tons of "Your one year closer to death now!"-comments [06:48] Other than that? Not much [06:48] Maybe a hundred bucks or two from my grandmother [06:48] \o/ [06:49] I started measuring my age in hex again [06:49] I'm 0x30 :) [06:49] RandalSchwartz: Damn that's old [06:49] RandalSchwartz: 0x13 here [06:49] And it's raining again [06:49] you've never lived in a world without Perl. [06:50] it was a scaryier time back then [06:50] crazy semi-portable shell scripts [06:50] Wasn't that like 0xbeefcafe years ago? [06:50] 22 years [06:50] :D [06:51] Okay. this is the situation, RandalSchwartz [06:52] have you seen a working rotary-dial phone? :) [06:52] I was about to clean my room (Yes! I still live with my parents), put on some good music (psy <3) but now I have to go to the bathroom [06:52] Uhm, nope :P [06:52] Or what [06:52] Oh yeah [06:52] One of those [06:52] Yeah I've seen 'em [06:52] My grandmother's got one [06:52] would you know how to use it? :) [06:53] Yeah :D [06:53] The same grandmother taught me [06:53] ancient wisdom [06:53] a dying art [06:53] totally useless [06:53] have you seen an answering machine? [06:53] lol [06:53] how about an acoustic couple modem? [06:54] Are you passively insulting me? [06:54] no - curious [06:54] and feeling... old. :) [06:54] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [06:55] Actually, I've seeen some acoustic coupler modems - but never used one [06:55] RandalSchwartz: not to make things worse, but I remember many of those things and you're 18yrs older than me [06:55] For obvious reasons [06:55] yeah - try to find a phone that fits that modem now [06:55] And RandalSchwartz. To be fair; answering machines never became huge in Sweden as far as I know [06:55] can anyone tell me how to resolve this: pkg_delete: corrupted record (pkgdep line without argument), ignoring [06:56] I'm trying to resolve some issues with 'portmaster --check-depends', but I see that when adding/removing ports. [06:56] there's a pkgdep fix up command somewhere [06:56] I've seen it referenced [06:56] it goes out and rebuilds by looking t the actual filesystem [06:56] RandalSchwartz / dxtr : http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/05/31/demo-300-baud-acoustic-coupler-modem-connects-to-internet-surfs-wikipedia/ [06:57] * RandalSchwartz runs over to work [06:57] interesting little video if you're feeling nostaligic :) [06:57] bob^^: I'll look into it... After my bathroom visit [07:02] *** schmir has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [07:24] damnit [07:24] any admins active? [07:24] :-/ [07:25] up_the_irons is probably asleep :) [07:27] I just reset my damn password and locked myself out of my vps bob^^ [07:27] lol [07:27] total noob status right now :-( [07:28] lol [07:28] what os? you could reboot and single-user it and change the password [07:28] raging right now [07:28] hahah [07:28] FreeBSD [07:28] easy fix thanks to the vnc access [07:28] oh, easy then :) [07:28] root password you've lost? [07:28] I cannot seem to get my damn vnc to work, what client do you use bob^^ ? I am on a mac rihgt now too :/ [07:29] nah root shsould be fine [07:29] user i created [07:29] don't forget the port number [07:29] that's normally what i forget [07:29] i just use realvnc, works great [07:29] i use tightvnc. worked fine for recovery a few days ago. [07:29] you don't even need to single user it then either [07:29] *** vtoms has joined #arpnetworks [07:29] just log in over vnc with root and reset it :) [07:30] ok i will try tight vnc [07:30] thanks guys [07:30] oh on mac [07:30] i used to use Chicken of the VNC [07:30] worked great with everything i needed at the time [07:31] ah - looks like it might be a bit outdated these days [07:31] you use host:portnumber [07:31] right [07:31] yup, that's it in realvnc [07:35] any luck? [07:39] nah [07:39] they won't let me add user root [07:39] i will keep fiddlin [07:39] huh? [07:39] you don't need to add user root [07:39] you should have a root account already [07:39] * bob^^ is confused [07:40] yeh i do, I mean the vnc [07:40] hmm, you shouldn't need a username for vnc [07:40] just the password from your ARP portal account [07:40] then you should see the root login prompt for your VPS [07:40] oh [07:40] hehe [07:40] hmm [07:40] kk [07:41] log in as root, passwd [07:41] sorry [07:41] lol [07:41] and enter a new password, bang, job done :) [07:41] pm if you need a hand with it, i'm just idling waiting for the clock to count down so i can leave work and go home for a beer :D [07:42] I am in bob^^ [07:42] thank you very much [07:42] yay [07:42] :) [07:42] np :) [07:42] <3 [07:42] cheers big ears [07:42] :D [07:42] gah, have i left my webcam on again :( [07:42] * bob^^ waggles ears [07:43] ruh roh [07:43] does not like my root pass [07:43] :/ [07:43] * bob^^ fetches scooby snacks [07:43] eeek [07:43] nah [07:43] easy fix [07:43] reboot box, select single user mode at the menu [07:43] k [07:43] (or, if you don't have a menu, enter 'boot -s' at the loader prompt) [07:44] that'll take you in to single user mode - it'll log you in as root without asking for a password [07:44] then you can just type 'passwd', hit enter, enter new root password and reboot [07:44] i am at login prompt [07:44] all done :) [07:44] how to make it reboot from here? [07:44] 'reboot' [07:44] :D [07:44] oh wait [07:44] you can't log in as root, can yuo? [07:44] but its at a log in prompt hehe [07:44] nope [07:45] d'oh :) [07:45] yeh lol [07:45] in which case, you'll need to power cycle it [07:45] you can do that from the ARP portal iirc [07:45] yep [07:45] stay logged in on vnc? [07:45] just keep an eye on VNC as it'll boot pretty quick :) [07:45] yeah [07:45] as soon as you see the freebsd boot menu, hit the number for single user mode - i can't remember off hand what number it is [07:46] http://files.cyberciti.biz/uploads/faq/2009/11/freebsd-boot.png [07:46] yep [07:46] option 3 :) [07:46] d'og [07:46] lol, d'oh, useless fingers [07:46] option 4 even [07:46] hehe [07:47] shut down hard? [07:47] 'boot' did nothing [07:47] yeah, that'll do you [07:47] you can shut down hard and then power on [07:47] should do the same job [07:47] just be prepared to wait for it to run a full fsck when it comes back up in multi user mode [07:48] (does it in the background so you may not even notice tbh) [07:48] vnc disconnected [07:48] won't allow me to reconnect [07:48] that's ok - just reconnect as soon as you power it back on [07:48] oh i power it on too [07:48] lol [07:48] gosh [07:48] :D [07:48] A NEW WORLD HERE [07:48] :P [07:48] thnx man [07:49] np - just connect quick so you make sure you can see the menu :) [07:49] ok booting [07:50] the vnc stuff with ARP is awesome, quite a life saver :D [07:50] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks [07:50] some sort of pam error [07:50] it spat out [07:51] hmm [07:51] did it go to the menu ok? [07:51] yeh [07:51] i am at prompt now [07:51] ah cool [07:51] restting passes [07:51] gave me a pam error tho [07:51] hmm [07:51] should be cool i HOPE [07:51] :) [07:51] heh [07:51] what's the error? [07:51] i'm wondering if something naughty has happened to your password file [07:51] pam_chauthtok() : error in service module [07:52] don't reboot it yet [07:52] and what command did you run to get that? just 'passwd' ? [07:52] I doubt it man, I only just got this and the passwords I reset to earlier were really long and full of odd chars [07:52] yes just passwd [07:52] do a 'cat /etc/passwd' [07:52] and make sure you don't have two root accounts or something daft [07:53] root should be on one line, the first line in the file, and nowhere else [07:53] hang on - that should be cat /etc/master.passwd, sorry [07:54] actually, check for any duplicate users at all [07:54] there should be one row per user, and usernames should all be unique [07:54] chances are you've somehow ended up with two identical usernames in that file [07:56] *** steinberg has joined #arpnetworks [07:58] sorry got disconnected there [07:58] lemme see [08:01] bob^^: do you know is direct root login blocked by default on FreeBSD vps [08:01] ? [08:01] I think it's blocked by default in ssh, but not console [08:02] that's how freebsd comes loaded [08:03] ok [08:03] thought so too [08:05] yeah - you can enable root login over ssh, but it's generally a Bad Idea (tm) [08:07] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC (Quit: ziyourenxiang) [08:10] got it sorted aem ? [08:12] nah man sam pam crap [08:12] I booted to single user set new pass with passwd [08:12] no dice [08:12] did you check master.passwd for duplicate users? [08:12] my vnc frose when i catted it [08:12] had to reboot [08:12] heh [08:12] i'd offer to take a look for you if you'll trust me with your vnc password :D [08:13] bizarre [08:13] hmm [08:13] that pam error means it hasn't updated the password database so that's why you can't log in [08:13] are you ok with using vi? [08:13] right [08:13] yes [08:13] ah, cool [08:13] use vipw then [08:13] yes hehe [08:13] kk [08:13] in single user? [08:13] that shouldn't cause it to flip out ninja stylee [08:13] yeah [08:13] awesome [08:13] just check that you don't have a username twice (any username) [08:14] all the google for that message suggests that there's something wrong with the format of master.passwd [08:14] hm yes [08:14] :-/ [08:14] eeek [08:14] lol [08:15] no worries [08:15] it'll be easily fixed :) [08:15] yep [08:15] :) [08:16] hehe bob^^ [08:16] pw_temp(): Read only filesystem [08:16] ?! [08:16] :O [08:16] buhhh [08:16] oh [08:16] that should be safe to ignore [08:16] it will not let me open vipw [08:17] it'll just be vi making a backup copy of the file which it doesn't really need [08:17] oh [08:17] hmm, sec [08:17] lol [08:17] yeah its mounted ro i guess [08:17] yaeh, i can't think why /tmp would be mounted ro [08:18] I wonder when up_the_irons will awaken [08:18] :) [08:18] you're not using zfs or anything fancy are you? [08:18] nope [08:18] this is pretty much b rand new vps [08:18] i suspect the only solution he'll be able to help with is reinstalling it from scratch for you :( [08:18] i had just csup'd new source to build with [08:18] :-/ [08:18] i don't mind taking a look if you fire over your vnc details [08:18] and you're happy to trust me of course :) [08:18] understandable if not [08:19] * bob^^ looks shiftily around [08:19] well yes [08:19] :) [08:19] you understand [08:19] hehe [08:19] hmm [08:19] no worries [08:19] it does sound a bit odd [08:19] if it helps i'm a freebsd sysadmin all day every day :) [08:19] all i did was change my passes [08:19] yes, that is pretty bizarre [08:19] you didn't change any shells did you? [08:19] nah [08:20] added a user with csh [08:20] i've typo'd shells in master.passwd before and ended up in a similar state [08:20] pw user add or adduser? [08:20] thats it [08:20] adduser [08:20] it should def have got it right [08:20] * bob^^ scratches head [08:22] you could try pwd_mkdb /etc/passwd [08:23] to regenerate the password databases in case somehow they've become knackered [08:23] would be pretty odd though [08:23] at the very least that might spit out an error if there's a problem with the format of your password file [08:24] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [08:27] aem: still stuck? [08:27] hehe yeh [08:27] I gotta go out [08:28] and pay some bills [08:28] bbiab [08:28] :) [08:28] chat to ya then if you're still around [08:28] thanks again [08:28] cool let me know if you're still stuck later - however i may be out in the sun drinking beer :) [08:28] gl! [08:38] ok. I think I've solved my --check-depends issue (finally). Is there a clean/easy way to rebuild all ports on my system? [08:38] I'd like to make sure everything is built against the right depends and no depends are missing. [09:17] portmaster -af. this is going to take a while. [09:26] *** fink has quit IRC (Quit: fink) [09:29] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [10:16] heya back [10:25] bob^^: I worked it out :) I need to mount -u / [10:25] and mount -a [10:51] hey does anyone know which CPU model are used in the FreeVSD vps? I want to specify it in /etc/make.conf [10:51] aem: I use -march=native [10:51] sysctl does [10:51] aem: or sysctl -a | grep hw. ...something. [10:52] cool thanks [10:52] amd64 [10:52] hw.machine [10:52] dunno how much more specific you want [10:52] # (AMD CPUs) opteron athlon64 athlon-mp athlon-xp athlon-4 [10:52] # athlon-tbird athlon k8 k6-3 k6-2 k6 k5 [10:52] just wondering if I could specify one of these [10:53] probably not without possibly breaking something [10:53] I don't see any of those names in sysctl [10:53] ok, so perhaps native is the best idea [10:53] well its a k8 type, I have ascertained that much [10:53] ... hw.model: QEMU Virtual CPU version 0.9.1 [10:53] yeh [10:54] I will use native so as not to break anything [10:54] Why are you setting this? [10:55] well when I build kernel and world I like the idea of it being tweaked a lil for the sytem [10:55] probably does not do much [10:55] ;-/ [10:57] I generally just use this standard on machines that need compiling: CFLAGS= -march=native -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe [10:59] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [11:00] yeah [11:18] *** schmir has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [11:35] *** msi70 has joined #arpnetworks [12:04] *** msi70 has left "Leaving" [12:15] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [12:25] *** steinberg has quit IRC (Quit: Quit) [13:54] *** amdprophet has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:03] *** amdprophet has joined #arpnetworks [14:12] *** vtoms has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [14:36] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [14:36] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [14:44] *** litebread has quit IRC (Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )) [14:55] *** fink has quit IRC (Quit: fink) [14:59] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [15:06] *** litebread has joined #arpnetworks [15:06] hello, is an admin around at the moment? [15:07] up_the_irons might be, but if you're looking for support you should e-mail support@arpnetworks.com [15:08] i have a while back, i suppose i will just wait [15:08] what are you waiting on? [15:11] his vps [15:11] ahh. [15:11] that's the problem with fame. longer startup times [15:12] RandalSchwartz: how many users until arpnetworks becomes officially not cool anymore? [15:13] I don't think there's an easy way to measure that [15:13] > 9000 [15:13] when up_the_irons gets yelled at when he comes in here, that'll be the end of the cool period [15:14] no my vps is already set up. [15:22] litebread: what's wrong? [15:28] i could not log in [15:28] i just logged in with vnc however [15:29] i dont think ill have any problems from here on out [15:33] okay everything is back to normail [15:34] ty though for the help, idk what happened but problem resolved [15:44] *** litebread has left [15:56] *** residual has quit IRC (Quit: residual) [16:04] hmm [16:04] anyone else ehere running a custom kernel on a FreeBSD vps with arp? [16:04] I compile from fresh source yet the uname -a does not say -p2 ? [16:04] :-/ [16:05] the kernel name, although, is correct [16:13] aem: what -supfile did you use for /usr/src? [16:14] (if any) [16:14] stable-supfile will stay on 8.0, standard-supfile should get you to -p2 [16:15] hi cedwards check this out [16:15] http://pastebin.com/YbRgvy8J [16:15] thats my csup file [16:16] hmm. that looks right to me. [16:17] that's the common thing I've seen before, is not using the right branch for /usr/src [16:17] uhm, isn't there also a setting in your kernel config to display/not display that -p2? [16:17] I seem to remember there being one, but I generally don't go custom on my kernels [16:18] yeh might be, I did not twiddle that knob tho [16:18] the only thing 'custom' about it is having pf in it and a diff kern name [16:18] isn't pf standard? [16:19] its not built into the kernel [16:20] pf, like the firewall. i'm using it and i didn't rebuild.. [16:20] I'm using rdr and nat anyway. [16:20] yeh you are loading it as module right [16:21] I didn't do anything other than pf_enable="YES" [16:21] yeh [16:23] Do you not like kernel modules, aem ? [16:23] anybody here use vlans? [16:23] * aem shrugs [16:25] fink: how do you mean [16:27] cedwards: freebsd vlan interface? [16:35] what up [16:36] really tempted to get my second vps this weekend, but I know my wife wont let me spend much time on it :) [16:37] whipped i see :P [16:38] not so much whipped as have two kids and one on the way. always stuff to take care of. [16:39] i'm just teasing :P i have two kids and an ex [16:39] I should be out folding all the laundry now, but I'm procrastinating. [16:42] ah hm [16:42] that is very odd [16:42] it was the repositories [16:42] they did not have the right source code wtf lol [16:42] yeah changed mirrors, got new code [16:42] odd.. [16:42] imo [16:43] i would expect them to all be updated, but I guess it is reasonable that they are not. [16:44] get it together Canada!!!! [16:44] aha [16:44] aem: I guess actually reading /usr/src/UPDATING would verify what version you had checkd out. [16:45] well naturally yes [16:45] but [16:45] I did not read it :) [16:45] i'm not in the habit of reading it as i should either [16:46] hehe yep, FreeBSD usually 'just works' for me :P [16:46] I wing it a bit I guess [16:46] cedwards: i had to switch back to qwerty today to put out a bunch of fires :( [16:47] hopefully you didn't lose too much of what you gained last evening [16:47] well, i was using dvorak at work for the first half of the day [16:47] then all hell broke loose [16:49] *** visinin has joined #arpnetworks [17:49] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks [18:36] infrared: well glad to hear you stuck with it as long as you could. [18:36] infrared: I've spoken to other people about it and they give up not long after the conversation is over :) [18:52] who was it that was talking about using unbound dns the other day? [18:56] me, and a few others [18:57] it has me curious. i've been reading their docs since then. [18:59] it looks like it's been around for a while, but this is the first I've heard of it. [18:59] yeah it's been around for a while; i had never heard of it either, but some people i consider very knowledgable told me about it [18:59] i manage DNS for a small number of domains, currently using named from FreeBSD ports. [18:59] I wonder if it might be worth migrating. [19:00] it's pretty easy to migrate b/c the zone file syntax is the same [19:00] which one is this, maradns? [19:00] just the master nsd.conf needs to be tweaked, and they have a perl script for that (which didn't work very well for me) [19:02] visinin: nsd [19:03] I've heard of nsd.. is it better than bind for an average user? [19:04] the old school guys at my office are big fans of tiny (djbdns), but i've never been convinced to migrate to that. [19:05] I can't migrate to anything he does :) [19:05] on principle [19:05] i'm quite happy with djbdns [19:05] djbdns works fine for me too [19:06] we still use it for a couple of domains, but those are going to be pulled into bind in the next month. [19:06] i would like to learn djbdns, but it's not a big priority for me. [19:06] hi up_the_irons I emailed my ssh key to you guys earlier [19:06] but unbound looks appealing, particularly the zone file compatibility. [19:06] you guys, like there's more than one of him :) [19:07] RandalSchwartz: nsd vs. bind is like postfix vs. sendmail. all the functionality, less suck [19:07] aem: pretty sure i got it, i'll have the user created a little later [19:07] "hey - steve martin... you guys were great..." [19:07] np man [19:07] cedwards: you mean "nsd" :) [19:07] cedwards: unbound is the recursive-only version [19:08] unbound is a resolver [19:08] (according to its website) [19:08] ahh. details. pfft! ;) [19:08] I was happy to see that RHEL finally made postfix the default when I installed 6 beta today. [19:08] just wondering up_the_irons about creating a PTR record(?) for a domain I have on the vps ? [19:09] that's covered in the faq [19:09] ok [19:09] thanls [19:09] you can either give info to him, or delegate [19:09] either way, you can make it work [19:09] np I will read [19:09] aem: http://support.arpnetworks.com/faqs/main/reverse-dns [19:10] whoa, i need one of those bots [19:10] so I can just do "! reverse dns" [19:10] hehe true man [19:10] and it'll say the link [19:10] good plan [19:10] anyone know the name of that bot? [19:10] the only irc bot i'm familiar with is eggdrop [19:11] up_the_irons: its a tcl script usually [19:11] tcl - toy command language [19:11] hey, tcl is similar to smalltalk in spirit [19:12] aka "almost like lisp, without any of the advantages" [19:12] I wonder if RandalSchwartz has a language bias.. hmmm. [19:13] Yes - I'm biased against things that suck [19:14] *** visinin has quit IRC (Quit: out for a bit) [19:17] tell us how you really feel [19:18] I'm going out out mhoran[jUaReZ] as a TCL programmer. [19:18] He's probably with his TCL-programming friends right now, but when he comes back he can talk about how secretly amazing TCL is. [20:05] ok. I'm not sure what I did but my newest jail is telling me 'read-only filesystem' when I try to build a port [20:06] ohh. bad etc/make.conf in the flavour. erg. 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