[01:07] <au> about 3 hours from there
[01:07] <au> on the border :)
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[02:48] <up_the_irons> amdprophet: http://www.flickr.com/photos/51184165@N00/4522413173/in/photostream/
[02:48] <up_the_irons> amdprophet: man this thing is QUIET
[02:59] <bob^^> 30w, nice
[02:59] <bob^^> i'm guessing that'd be even less in the UK on 230v :)
[03:01] <up_the_irons> well let's see...
[03:03] <au> hehe nice
[03:03] <au> which o/s?
[03:04] <up_the_irons> bob^^: i think it'd still be 30W, just less current used (amps)
[03:04] <up_the_irons> bob^^: so less dissipation, and in that sense, a bit less power
[03:05] <bob^^> yeah
[03:05] <bob^^> nice little box, ideal with the CF :D
[03:06] <up_the_irons> au: trying various OS's
[03:06] <au> :) not windows I hope
[03:06] <up_the_irons> bob^^: yeah, the CF is nice, but disk I/O kinda blows; guess i shouldn't expect much, it's CF after all...
[03:07] <up_the_irons> au: not windows :)
[03:07] <au> great
[03:07] <bob^^> yeah, the bottleneck will definitely be the CF card itself :)
[03:07] <bob^^> perfect for a little monitoring server though
[03:07] <au> how much was that up_the_irons?
[03:08] <au> I need to replace my home server, it's a 1u 2x xeon 2.8, 4gb ram and 2x 74gb (or 73gb?) scsi hd
[03:08] <au> very good server, but uses too much power
[03:08] <au> interested in these atom servers
[03:08] <up_the_irons> bob^^: order the CF/SATA converter, which says 150 Mbps (so 18.75 MB/s), even though the CF card is a 266x high speed card, which is rated at 40 MB/s
[03:09] <up_the_irons> au: $269 shipped: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101262
[03:09] <up_the_irons> au: just add ram and your choice of HD
[03:09] <au> ooh
[03:09] <au> bargain
[03:09] <up_the_irons> au: bet your Xeon is 110W TDP.  This Atom is 8W TDP ;)
[03:10] <au> not sure, they're basically p4's
[03:10] <au> do newegg ship to .au?
[03:12] <up_the_irons> au: no idea
[03:12] <au> hm okay :)
[03:12] <bob^^> that is a good price
[03:12] <bob^^> i bet in the UK that's £269
[03:12] <bob^^> normally how it works for us :(
[03:13] <au> :/
[03:13] <up_the_irons> cheaper here: http://www.provantage.com/supermicro-sys-5015a-h~7SUP91AQ.htm
[03:15] <au> gah they don't
[03:15] <up_the_irons> au: what about provantage?
[03:16] <au> http://www.priceusa.com.au/
[03:16] <au> hm loading that pge now
[03:17] <au> hm they ship here
[03:17] <au> great
[03:18] <up_the_irons> cool!
[03:19] <nenolod> rackmounts, etc have preassembled supermicro servers with max RAM and 500GB(?) HDD for $300
[03:19] <nenolod> (atom)
[03:19] <dxtr> That's cheap
[03:20] <up_the_irons> nenolod: lol, when did you get here? ;)
[03:20] <dxtr> up_the_irons: Shouldn't you go to bed, btw? Isn't it kinda late (early?) over there? :P
[03:20] <dxtr> You're kinda in the wrong time zone
[03:20] <nenolod> it's 3AM in california
[03:21] <dxtr> exaftly. It's 12 here :D
[03:21] <dxtr> exactly*
[03:21] <dxtr> I'm considering going to school
[03:21] <up_the_irons> dxtr: i already slept some; then woke up and wanted to play with my atom :)
[03:21] <dxtr> I got an atom box as a router
[03:21] <dxtr> :)
[03:22] <dxtr> But I think I need to replace is because I want it fanless or something
[03:22] <dxtr> it*
[03:22] <bob^^> i'm thinking of getting an atom machine to replace my old celeron home server
[03:22] <dxtr> Gah. Can't type
[03:23] <bob^^> which uses loads of power
[03:25] <up_the_irons> bob^^: i bet
[03:26] <up_the_irons> dxtr: can an atom be fanless?
[03:26] <dxtr> up_the_irons: yep
[03:27] <dxtr> I've seen lots of fanless atom setups :9
[03:27] <dxtr> :)
[03:27] <up_the_irons> dxtr: nice
[03:27] * up_the_irons ponders disconnecting the fan header...
[03:27] <dxtr> BUT! I wouldn't do it with any atom board
[03:27] * up_the_irons stops
[03:27] <up_the_irons> ;)
[03:28] <dxtr> For example the one I've got (Intel D-something-something-something) the north bridge (is it called that in english?) gets really hot
[03:28] <dxtr> I mean..  Like.. You can fry eggs on it
[03:28] <dxtr> So I need a fan on that one. But I haven't got a fan or something on the CPU
[03:29] <bob^^> yeah - i've seen boards where the d945 chipset has a fan, but the atom doesn't (just a big passive heatsink)
[03:29] <bob^^> the chipset used to use more power than the atom, i think there's a new chipset now though :)
[03:30] <nenolod> up_the_irons, a while ago.
[03:30] <dxtr> D945GCLF2
[03:30] <dxtr> That's the one I've got
[03:30] <dxtr> according to sysctl -a in obsd
[03:30] <bob^^> yeah, i think that's the 'hot' one :)
[03:30] <nenolod> up_the_irons, i was going to get an arp networks vps but then i moved my fremont stuff to LA instead because Hurricane was having problems keeping their power distribution system from catching on fire
[03:31] <dxtr> I friggin' Love openbsd. Might not be the most performing OS but it's rock solid and just plain awesome
[03:32] <dxtr> It's real love I'm talking about. I'm going to marry obsd
[03:32] <nenolod> i'll stick with debian :p
[03:32] <dxtr> :(
[03:32] <bob^^> :(
[03:32] <bob^^> it's gotta be *bsd
[03:32] <dxtr> I use freebsd on the vps and that's awesome too
[03:33] <up_the_irons> nenolod: LOL, catching on fire?  wow
[03:33] <bob^^> i'm freebsd pretty much everywhere :)
[03:33] <dxtr> bob^^: I don't use freebsd on my router :)
[03:33] <dxtr> I use obsd there
[03:33] <nenolod> bob^^, debian is more useful to me given the amount of infrastructure i have
[03:33] <bob^^> i've got a netscreen at home for that ;)
[03:33] <dxtr> I got an atom box \o
[03:33] <bob^^> used to use freebsd for it though, always worked great :D
[03:34] <dxtr> Hehe
[03:34] <dxtr> Anyhow. I'm going to school now (I think)
[03:35] <dxtr> Unless I turn around on the way there
[03:35] <dxtr> Bye!
[03:36] <up_the_irons> had to bounce eth0 on the atom cuz my ping flood seems to have killed something;  bum rtl8169
[03:36] <up_the_irons> shucks, too bad
[03:36] <bob^^> ugh, realtek
[03:36] <bob^^> any pci headers for a decent nic? :)
[03:36] <up_the_irons> yeah.. i can put 1 PCI-E (x4 or x8) card in
[03:37] <bob^^> nice
[03:37] <up_the_irons> need a riser though
[03:37] <up_the_irons> then i can put in an intel dual port ET
[03:37] <up_the_irons> which costs half as much as the box itself ;)
[03:38] <au> http://www.news.com.au/technology/microsoft-accused-of-52c-an-hour-slaves/story-e6frfro0-1225854187905 heh
[03:39] <bob^^> worth it though up_the_irons :)
[03:40] <up_the_irons> yeah :)
[03:50] <aem> hiya up_the_irons :) I do believe your the boss man. I would like to order a FreeBSD vps, is there a wait time at the moment?
[03:51] <aem> you're*
[03:52] <up_the_irons> aem: no wait besides the regular 24 hours
[03:52] <aem> okey dokey
[03:53] <aem> I will place the order now
[03:55] <up_the_irons> aem: great :)
[03:55] <nenolod> up_the_irons, yes.  on fire.
[03:55] <nenolod> up_the_irons, twice.  then we found out the HE reseller we were using was bankrupt.
[03:55] <nenolod> up_the_irons, which really made things interesting.
[03:55] <up_the_irons> nenolod: oh jeez
[03:56] <up_the_irons> sounds very interesting indeed
[03:56] <nenolod> by interesting, i mean rather annoying.
[03:56] <up_the_irons> for sure
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[11:55] <opssysarch> hello, anyone working for support at arpnetwork here now ?
[11:56] <mike-burns> I do not work for ARP Network. What is your question?
[11:57] <opssysarch> oh , my request was to get a management console account, becoz i was dumb enough to lock myself out of my openbsd vm by not adding myself to the wheel group and can't su - anymore
[11:58] <opssysarch> i haven't heard back from anyone yet so i was following up with some one to see if i could get a status update
[11:58] <opssysarch> **some here
[11:59] <mike-burns> Did you email support@ with your SSH public key?
[11:59] <opssysarch> yes i did
[12:00] <mike-burns> up_the_irons is in charge of that and, depending on time of day, he may be busy. Sorry.
[12:00] <opssysarch> cool
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[13:18] <up_the_irons> opssysarch should just hit VNC...
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[14:12] <dxtr> up_the_irons: honestly. My SSH key isn't working to the management console thing
[14:12] <dxtr> I think :p
[14:12] <dxtr> At least I can't conect
[14:12] <dxtr> connect
[14:12] <dxtr> I'm using PuTTY
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[16:19] <fink> dxtr: you should post your error
[16:19] <fink> and use verbose mode
[16:20] <fink> usually it's -vvv
[16:20] <fink> i don't know about putty though
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