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jlgaddis has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: man, level3 is sure having some issues as of late... ***: lll_ has joined #arpnetworks
lll has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) dxtr: Blah! I want money so I can order the god damn server P:
Sometimes I think capitalism sucks. Then I get some money and change my mind.
Hrm, anyone here knows how to secure apache and php so users can't access each others' userdirs? ***: leander has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
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Hm. This is irssi, not mutt.
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schmir has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) Jestre: up_the_irons: Sounds promising (re: upgrade) :) amdprophet: is level3 having an issue with their routers? ***: nakano is now known as masatomo up_the_irons: amdprophet: they seem to have been having problems the last few days amdprophet: since friday-ish? up_the_irons: yeah, lots of packet loss on their network amdprophet: that would explain a lot
i can get to our sites fine on my comps, but my cell phone won't even resolve the dns up_the_irons: ouch amdprophet: and a few clients aren't able to get to their sites up_the_irons: can u traceroute from your phone? amdprophet: going to install it if it's on the installer, one sec
i was just charging my phone up_the_irons: ah amdprophet: phone is working now, right after i get traceroute installed
oh well :P dxtr: Hrm, my speed from home to you guys isn't that awesome actually :p
Sure, I'm in Sweden, but from my current VPS I get speeds of like 8MB/s or something
I hate my ISP up_the_irons: dxtr: you should pastebin traceroutes from you to us, then you to current VPS dxtr: up_the_irons: Already working on it ;) up_the_irons: :) dxtr: From home to you: http://pastebin.ca/1841746
Haha, blargh. Damn ipv6 :P up_the_irons: dxtr: so about 175ms, that's pretty much expected from europe dxtr: up_the_irons: Well, I tried with your 100MB test file
<100KB/s
http://pastebin.ca/1841752
Me to my current vps up_the_irons: dxtr: not fair comparing vps in US to vps in EU ;) dxtr: Well, you said :p
[2256] [M]->@up_the_irons: dxtr: you should pastebin traceroutes from you to us, then you to current VPS up_the_irons: dxtr: an EU vps will *always* beat me in latency and speed if you're also in the EU; just fyi dxtr: Well, duh, you said it up_the_irons: dxtr: yeah i kinda assumed maybe you had a vps in US, so that's what i wanted to compare
so n/m :) dxtr: up_the_irons: I said my current vps to you :D
wait
Err
http://pastebin.ca/1841756
That's my current VPS to you guys up_the_irons: eww, it goes over cogent dxtr: Okay?
At least it's fast :P up_the_irons: dxtr: so you get faster downlods on 100mb.bin from your vps to me? if so, how fast? dxtr: Around 6-8MB/s
Okay, average of 5 :P
Apparently ***: boogeyman has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) dxtr: Yay, it's a little faster here now
<1MB/s
But this is insulting! :P ***: boogeyman has joined #arpnetworks dxtr: I've got 100/10(Mb/s) here
It's climbing some now
I'd guess an average of 1.1MB/s
was like <100-110KB/s earlier today :/ ***: vtoms has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) dxtr: up_the_irons: Any comments? :)
You can have my ip if you want blovett: up_the_irons, you noticed the level3 issues too? I got a nice page last night saying one of our office links was having .. issues. kinda annoying. up_the_irons: sorry was afk
dxtr: the only thing i can think is that level3 is still having issues; it is usually _not_ the case that a route over cogent is faster than level3 ;)
blovett: yeah i got paged daily about the level3 issues blovett: do you have a direct feed with level3, or is it through mzima?
(mzima here)
I ended up depref'ing mzima last night
so I could sleep up_the_irons: blovett: through mzima blovett: odd that it seems to only be an issue at night. :-/ up_the_irons: i'd like to buy a "complement" network to mzima/level3. wondering who that is. perhaps global crossing blovett: comcast?
for eyeballs atleast. up_the_irons: do they sell ip transit? i never even looked... blovett: yep up_the_irons: interesting blovett: minimum 100mbit on fibre
actually, we talked them down to 100mbit
heh up_the_irons: hah
how much per meg? blovett: $10
compared to $20@50Mbit with Mzima
(or $350/Mbit if you're talking .au)
:-( up_the_irons: mzima gave told you $20 at 50 megs? stiff, they quoted me much lower, under $15 blovett: weird.
oh well.
whats nice is we can spread our commit across multiple sites. up_the_irons: yeah most providers will do that blovett: ah, I've never dealt with more than one dc site. ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: BAMPF!) blovett: bringing up a new location in virginia next week. never been out there, looking forward to it.
except for the cold. :) up_the_irons: haha
cool dxtr: hmm
How would one "assign" specific IPs to specific users+ DaCa: jail them dxtr: If i, for example, would give out shells
DaCa: Do you mean like a so-called "freebsd jail"? DaCa: dxtr: yes dxtr: That's the only way to do it? DaCa: probably the easiest and safest dxtr: But virtualizing in a virtualized environment doesn't sound like the ultimate solution :/ DaCa: the overhead is neglectible
it's just an enhanced chroot, where you can force the ip dxtr: Hrm, okay. Let's try the other way around: Can I somehow stop (all) users from binding to some IPs? DaCa: hmm, you could also do it with pf, I guess
you wont stop them from binding, but you can block the trafic dxtr: Yeah
Because the problem is I don't want to chroot the users - just say "These are the IPs you can use"
Because I'm giving out some shells and mail (No fancy webui, POP or something. Just mutt) to some friends and that would be a nice feature.
But yeah, jails might be something DaCa: you can use some null_mounting tricks if you are worried about the duplication of userland
afair it's pretty good documented in the handbook dxtr: Yeah, I'm checking it right now
Actually that is really awesome ***: ballen has joined #arpnetworks
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OOOOH...GOTCHA WITH THE DVORAK ***: visinin has joined #arpnetworks
fink has joined #arpnetworks fink: hi guys, thinking of switching from slicehost
anybody willing to share freebsd experiences on arpnetworks? ballen: sure whats up visinin: freebsd experience was quite nice :)
using openbsd now but it was just a preference thing
i switched from slicehost back around september fink: hi
that 768 MB RAM for $20/month seems too good to be true ballen: nah plenty true
what I'm using fink: visinin: did you use slicehost's dns control panel?
ballen: cool up_the_irons: seems to good to be true if you're used to slicehost prices ;) visinin: fink: yeah, i did
i'm running djbdns on my VPS now fink: visinin: did you setup a dns server on your arpnetwork vps?
ok cool
tinydns? up_the_irons: slicehost has more management tools though (control panel dns, wipe/restore, a few others) visinin: yep, yep fink: up_the_irons: yea, that is nice up_the_irons: yeah fink: so arpnetworks doesn't have a web admin dns server?
i don't mind running tinydns, but that is a nice thing about slicehost up_the_irons: fink: we don't, a little more info here: http://support.arpnetworks.com/faqs/main/reverse-dns fink: up_the_irons: thanks
are any of you guys on the east coast? up_the_irons: control panel reverse dns is the next big project i'm going to work on fink: cool ok ballen: speaking of that fink: so freebsd jails work ok in an arpnetwork vps? ballen: fink yea you can if you'd like to
up_the_irons tickets submitted re RDNS up_the_irons: ballen: roger ballen: thanks up_the_irons: fink: i imagine jails would work similar to a regular physical box; haven't had too many people report on their usage of jails, so i'm not sure fink: cool
thanks guys up_the_irons: np fink: so i can sign up next week? and start transitioning ***: ballen has quit IRC (Quit: ballen) fink: last question: how's the connect from the east coast? i noticed arpnetworks is in CA up_the_irons: fink: try a ping / traceroute. i think you're going to get 50 - 70ms rtt fink: i'm on a 2g connect atm, so i can't really test all that well up_the_irons: ah ok fink: ok, thanks up_the_irons: haven't had complaints from east coast customers
if you're in the EU, you may notice some latency fink: sure up_the_irons: 175ms is noticeable as you type fink: thanks, this is great; freebsd vps options are thin up_the_irons: yeah i know; that's why we're here :) ***: intelprophet has joined #arpnetworks intelprophet: up_the_irons: i had someone do a traceroute to one of our VPS, it's stopping at 205.178.182.9 up_the_irons: amdprophet: you have competition intelprophet: haha amdprophet: it's me :P up_the_irons: intelprophet: probably bad rpf rule on one of my peers; if so, it is harmless, the router just can't send back the icmp b/c it is dropped at a peer intelprophet: hmm interesting, maybe our dns server is having some fail then up_the_irons: i've been meaning to find out who that is, but with over 30 peers and not enough time, it is hard... amdprophet: my new imac just crashed... goodbye intelprophet ***: intelprophet has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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