man, level3 is sure having some issues as of late...
Blah! I want money so I can order the god damn server P:
Sometimes I think capitalism sucks. Then I get some money and change my mind.
Hrm, anyone here knows how to secure apache and php so users can't access each others' userdirs?
c
Hm. This is irssi, not mutt.
Whoops!
up_the_irons: Sounds promising (re: upgrade) :)
is level3 having an issue with their routers?
amdprophet: they seem to have been having problems the last few days
since friday-ish?
yeah, lots of packet loss on their network
that would explain a lot
i can get to our sites fine on my comps, but my cell phone won't even resolve the dns
ouch
and a few clients aren't able to get to their sites
can u traceroute from your phone?
going to install it if it's on the installer, one sec
i was just charging my phone
ah
phone is working now, right after i get traceroute installed
oh well :P
Hrm, my speed from home to you guys isn't that awesome actually :p
Sure, I'm in Sweden, but from my current VPS I get speeds of like 8MB/s or something
I hate my ISP
dxtr: you should pastebin traceroutes from you to us, then you to current VPS
up_the_irons: Already working on it ;)
:)
From home to you: http://pastebin.ca/1841746
Haha, blargh. Damn ipv6 :P
dxtr: so about 175ms, that's pretty much expected from europe
up_the_irons: Well, I tried with your 100MB test file
<100KB/s
http://pastebin.ca/1841752
Me to my current vps
dxtr: not fair comparing vps in US to vps in EU ;)
Well, you said :p
[2256] [M]->@up_the_irons: dxtr: you should pastebin traceroutes from you to us, then you to current VPS
dxtr: an EU vps will *always* beat me in latency and speed if you're also in the EU; just fyi
Well, duh, you said it
dxtr: yeah i kinda assumed maybe you had a vps in US, so that's what i wanted to compare
so n/m :)
up_the_irons: I said my current vps to you :D
wait
Err
http://pastebin.ca/1841756
That's my current VPS to you guys
eww, it goes over cogent
Okay?
At least it's fast :P
dxtr: so you get faster downlods on 100mb.bin from your vps to me?  if so, how fast?
Around 6-8MB/s
Okay, average of 5 :P
Apparently
Yay, it's a little faster here now
<1MB/s
But this is insulting! :P
I've got 100/10(Mb/s) here
It's climbing some now
I'd guess an average of 1.1MB/s
was like <100-110KB/s earlier today :/
up_the_irons: Any comments? :)
You can have my ip if you want
up_the_irons, you noticed the level3 issues too? I got a nice page last night saying one of our office links was having .. issues. kinda annoying.
sorry was afk
dxtr: the only thing i can think is that level3 is still having issues; it is usually _not_ the case that a route over cogent is faster than level3 ;)
blovett: yeah i got paged daily about the level3 issues
do you have a direct feed with level3, or is it through mzima?
(mzima here)
I ended up depref'ing mzima last night
so I could sleep
blovett: through mzima
odd that it seems to only be an issue at night. :-/
i'd like to buy a "complement" network to mzima/level3.  wondering who that is.  perhaps global crossing
comcast?
for eyeballs atleast.
do they sell ip transit?  i never even looked...
yep
interesting
minimum 100mbit on fibre
actually, we talked them down to 100mbit
heh
hah
how much per meg?
$10
compared to $20@50Mbit with Mzima
(or $350/Mbit if you're talking .au)
:-(
mzima gave told you $20 at 50 megs?  stiff, they quoted me much lower, under $15
weird.
oh well.
whats nice is we can spread our commit across multiple sites.
yeah most providers will do that
ah, I've never dealt with more than one dc site.
bringing up a new location in virginia next week. never been out there, looking forward to it.
except for the cold. :)
haha
cool
hmm
How would one "assign" specific IPs to specific users+
jail them
If i, for example, would give out shells
DaCa: Do you mean like a so-called "freebsd jail"?
dxtr: yes
That's the only way to do it?
probably the easiest and safest
But virtualizing in a virtualized environment doesn't sound like the ultimate solution :/
the overhead is neglectible
it's just an enhanced chroot, where you can force the ip
Hrm, okay. Let's try the other way around: Can I somehow stop (all) users from binding to some IPs?
hmm, you could also do it with pf, I guess
you wont stop them from binding, but you can block the trafic
Yeah
Because the problem is I don't want to chroot the users - just say "These are the IPs you can use"
Because I'm giving out some shells and mail (No fancy webui, POP or something. Just mutt) to some friends and that would be a nice feature.
But yeah, jails might be something
you can use some null_mounting tricks if you are worried about the duplication of userland
afair it's pretty good documented in the handbook
Yeah, I'm checking it right now
Actually that is really awesome
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qwer
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dvor
OOOOH...GOTCHA WITH THE DVORAK
hi guys, thinking of switching from slicehost
anybody willing to share freebsd experiences on arpnetworks?
sure whats up
freebsd experience was quite nice :)
using openbsd now but it was just a preference thing
i switched from slicehost back around september
hi
that 768 MB RAM for $20/month seems too good to be true
nah plenty true
what I'm using
visinin: did you use slicehost's dns control panel?
ballen: cool
seems to good to be true if you're used to slicehost prices ;)
fink: yeah, i did
i'm running djbdns on my VPS now
visinin: did you setup a dns server on your arpnetwork vps?
ok cool
tinydns?
slicehost has more management tools though (control panel dns, wipe/restore, a few others)
yep, yep
up_the_irons: yea, that is nice
yeah
so arpnetworks doesn't have a web admin dns server?
i don't mind running tinydns, but that is a nice thing about slicehost
fink: we don't, a little more info here: http://support.arpnetworks.com/faqs/main/reverse-dns
up_the_irons: thanks
are any of you guys on the east coast?
control panel reverse dns is the next big project i'm going to work on
cool ok
speaking of that
so freebsd jails work ok in an arpnetwork vps?
fink yea you can if you'd like to
up_the_irons tickets submitted re RDNS
ballen: roger
thanks
fink: i imagine jails would work similar to a regular physical box; haven't had too many people report on their usage of jails, so i'm not sure
cool
thanks guys
np
so i can sign up next week? and start transitioning
last question: how's the connect from the east coast? i noticed arpnetworks is in CA
fink: try a ping / traceroute.  i think you're going to get 50 - 70ms rtt
i'm on a 2g connect atm, so i can't really test all that well
ah ok
ok, thanks
haven't had complaints from east coast customers
if you're in the EU, you may notice some latency
sure
175ms is noticeable as you type
thanks, this is great; freebsd vps options are thin
yeah i know; that's why we're here :)
up_the_irons: i had someone do a traceroute to one of our VPS, it's stopping at 205.178.182.9
amdprophet: you have competition
haha
it's me :P
intelprophet: probably bad rpf rule on one of my peers; if so, it is harmless, the router just can't send back the icmp b/c it is dropped at a peer
hmm interesting, maybe our dns server is having some fail then
i've been meaning to find out who that is, but with over 30 peers and not enough time, it is hard...
my new imac just crashed... goodbye intelprophet