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| up_the_irons | man, level3 is sure having some issues as of late... | [01:14] |
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| dxtr | Blah! I want money so I can order the god damn server P:
Sometimes I think capitalism sucks. Then I get some money and change my mind. | [02:12] |
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| Hrm, anyone here knows how to secure apache and php so users can't access each others' userdirs? | [04:52] | |
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| mhoran | c
Hm. This is irssi, not mutt. Whoops! | [07:09] |
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| Jestre | up_the_irons: Sounds promising (re: upgrade) :) | [11:02] |
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| amdprophet | is level3 having an issue with their routers? | [13:20] |
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| up_the_irons | amdprophet: they seem to have been having problems the last few days | [13:39] |
| amdprophet | since friday-ish? | [13:43] |
| up_the_irons | yeah, lots of packet loss on their network | [13:43] |
| amdprophet | that would explain a lot
i can get to our sites fine on my comps, but my cell phone won't even resolve the dns | [13:43] |
| up_the_irons | ouch | [13:44] |
| amdprophet | and a few clients aren't able to get to their sites | [13:44] |
| up_the_irons | can u traceroute from your phone? | [13:44] |
| amdprophet | going to install it if it's on the installer, one sec
i was just charging my phone | [13:44] |
| up_the_irons | ah | [13:57] |
| amdprophet | phone is working now, right after i get traceroute installed
oh well :P | [14:00] |
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| dxtr | Hrm, my speed from home to you guys isn't that awesome actually :p
Sure, I'm in Sweden, but from my current VPS I get speeds of like 8MB/s or something I hate my ISP | [14:54] |
| up_the_irons | dxtr: you should pastebin traceroutes from you to us, then you to current VPS | [14:55] |
| dxtr | up_the_irons: Already working on it ;) | [14:55] |
| up_the_irons | :) | [14:55] |
| dxtr | From home to you: http://pastebin.ca/1841746
Haha, blargh. Damn ipv6 :P | [14:56] |
| up_the_irons | dxtr: so about 175ms, that's pretty much expected from europe | [14:59] |
| dxtr | up_the_irons: Well, I tried with your 100MB test file
<100KB/s http://pastebin.ca/1841752 Me to my current vps | [15:00] |
| up_the_irons | dxtr: not fair comparing vps in US to vps in EU ;) | [15:01] |
| dxtr | Well, you said :p
[2256] [M]->@up_the_irons: dxtr: you should pastebin traceroutes from you to us, then you to current VPS | [15:01] |
| up_the_irons | dxtr: an EU vps will *always* beat me in latency and speed if you're also in the EU; just fyi | [15:02] |
| dxtr | Well, duh, you said it | [15:02] |
| up_the_irons | dxtr: yeah i kinda assumed maybe you had a vps in US, so that's what i wanted to compare
so n/m :) | [15:02] |
| dxtr | up_the_irons: I said my current vps to you :D
wait Err http://pastebin.ca/1841756 That's my current VPS to you guys | [15:02] |
| up_the_irons | eww, it goes over cogent | [15:06] |
| dxtr | Okay?
At least it's fast :P | [15:06] |
| up_the_irons | dxtr: so you get faster downlods on 100mb.bin from your vps to me? if so, how fast? | [15:07] |
| dxtr | Around 6-8MB/s
Okay, average of 5 :P Apparently | [15:08] |
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| dxtr | Yay, it's a little faster here now
<1MB/s But this is insulting! :P | [15:08] |
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| dxtr | I've got 100/10(Mb/s) here
It's climbing some now I'd guess an average of 1.1MB/s was like <100-110KB/s earlier today :/ | [15:09] |
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| dxtr | up_the_irons: Any comments? :)
You can have my ip if you want | [15:16] |
| blovett | up_the_irons, you noticed the level3 issues too? I got a nice page last night saying one of our office links was having .. issues. kinda annoying. | [15:24] |
| up_the_irons | sorry was afk
dxtr: the only thing i can think is that level3 is still having issues; it is usually _not_ the case that a route over cogent is faster than level3 ;) blovett: yeah i got paged daily about the level3 issues | [15:25] |
| blovett | do you have a direct feed with level3, or is it through mzima?
(mzima here) I ended up depref'ing mzima last night so I could sleep | [15:30] |
| up_the_irons | blovett: through mzima | [15:31] |
| blovett | odd that it seems to only be an issue at night. :-/ | [15:31] |
| up_the_irons | i'd like to buy a "complement" network to mzima/level3. wondering who that is. perhaps global crossing | [15:32] |
| blovett | comcast?
for eyeballs atleast. | [15:32] |
| up_the_irons | do they sell ip transit? i never even looked... | [15:33] |
| blovett | yep | [15:33] |
| up_the_irons | interesting | [15:33] |
| blovett | minimum 100mbit on fibre
actually, we talked them down to 100mbit heh | [15:33] |
| up_the_irons | hah
how much per meg? | [15:33] |
| blovett | $10
compared to $20@50Mbit with Mzima (or $350/Mbit if you're talking .au) :-( | [15:33] |
| up_the_irons | mzima gave told you $20 at 50 megs? stiff, they quoted me much lower, under $15 | [15:35] |
| blovett | weird.
oh well. whats nice is we can spread our commit across multiple sites. | [15:35] |
| up_the_irons | yeah most providers will do that | [15:36] |
| blovett | ah, I've never dealt with more than one dc site. | [15:36] |
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| blovett | bringing up a new location in virginia next week. never been out there, looking forward to it.
except for the cold. :) | [15:39] |
| up_the_irons | haha
cool | [15:42] |
| dxtr | hmm
How would one "assign" specific IPs to specific users+ | [15:48] |
| DaCa | jail them | [15:49] |
| dxtr | If i, for example, would give out shells
DaCa: Do you mean like a so-called "freebsd jail"? | [15:49] |
| DaCa | dxtr: yes | [15:52] |
| dxtr | That's the only way to do it? | [15:52] |
| DaCa | probably the easiest and safest | [15:53] |
| dxtr | But virtualizing in a virtualized environment doesn't sound like the ultimate solution :/ | [15:54] |
| DaCa | the overhead is neglectible
it's just an enhanced chroot, where you can force the ip | [15:54] |
| dxtr | Hrm, okay. Let's try the other way around: Can I somehow stop (all) users from binding to some IPs? | [15:57] |
| DaCa | hmm, you could also do it with pf, I guess
you wont stop them from binding, but you can block the trafic | [15:58] |
| dxtr | Yeah
Because the problem is I don't want to chroot the users - just say "These are the IPs you can use" Because I'm giving out some shells and mail (No fancy webui, POP or something. Just mutt) to some friends and that would be a nice feature. | [16:00] |
| But yeah, jails might be something | [16:15] | |
| DaCa | you can use some null_mounting tricks if you are worried about the duplication of userland
afair it's pretty good documented in the handbook | [16:16] |
| dxtr | Yeah, I'm checking it right now
Actually that is really awesome | [16:17] |
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| ballen | asdf | [16:48] |
| phlux | qwer | [16:55] |
| up_the_irons | zxcv | [16:58] |
| phlux | dvor
OOOOH...GOTCHA WITH THE DVORAK | [16:59] |
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| fink | hi guys, thinking of switching from slicehost
anybody willing to share freebsd experiences on arpnetworks? | [17:48] |
| ballen | sure whats up | [17:48] |
| visinin | freebsd experience was quite nice :)
using openbsd now but it was just a preference thing i switched from slicehost back around september | [17:48] |
| fink | hi
that 768 MB RAM for $20/month seems too good to be true | [17:49] |
| ballen | nah plenty true
what I'm using | [17:49] |
| fink | visinin: did you use slicehost's dns control panel?
ballen: cool | [17:49] |
| up_the_irons | seems to good to be true if you're used to slicehost prices ;) | [17:49] |
| visinin | fink: yeah, i did
i'm running djbdns on my VPS now | [17:49] |
| fink | visinin: did you setup a dns server on your arpnetwork vps?
ok cool tinydns? | [17:50] |
| up_the_irons | slicehost has more management tools though (control panel dns, wipe/restore, a few others) | [17:50] |
| visinin | yep, yep | [17:50] |
| fink | up_the_irons: yea, that is nice | [17:50] |
| up_the_irons | yeah | [17:50] |
| fink | so arpnetworks doesn't have a web admin dns server?
i don't mind running tinydns, but that is a nice thing about slicehost | [17:50] |
| up_the_irons | fink: we don't, a little more info here: http://support.arpnetworks.com/faqs/main/reverse-dns | [17:51] |
| fink | up_the_irons: thanks
are any of you guys on the east coast? | [17:52] |
| up_the_irons | control panel reverse dns is the next big project i'm going to work on | [17:52] |
| fink | cool ok | [17:53] |
| ballen | speaking of that | [17:53] |
| fink | so freebsd jails work ok in an arpnetwork vps? | [17:54] |
| ballen | fink yea you can if you'd like to
up_the_irons tickets submitted re RDNS | [17:56] |
| up_the_irons | ballen: roger | [17:57] |
| ballen | thanks | [17:57] |
| up_the_irons | fink: i imagine jails would work similar to a regular physical box; haven't had too many people report on their usage of jails, so i'm not sure | [17:57] |
| fink | cool
thanks guys | [17:57] |
| up_the_irons | np | [17:57] |
| fink | so i can sign up next week? and start transitioning | [17:58] |
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| fink | last question: how's the connect from the east coast? i noticed arpnetworks is in CA | [17:58] |
| up_the_irons | fink: try a ping / traceroute. i think you're going to get 50 - 70ms rtt | [17:59] |
| fink | i'm on a 2g connect atm, so i can't really test all that well | [17:59] |
| up_the_irons | ah ok | [17:59] |
| fink | ok, thanks | [17:59] |
| up_the_irons | haven't had complaints from east coast customers
if you're in the EU, you may notice some latency | [17:59] |
| fink | sure | [17:59] |
| up_the_irons | 175ms is noticeable as you type | [17:59] |
| fink | thanks, this is great; freebsd vps options are thin | [18:00] |
| up_the_irons | yeah i know; that's why we're here :) | [18:00] |
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| intelprophet | up_the_irons: i had someone do a traceroute to one of our VPS, it's stopping at 205.178.182.9 | [18:07] |
| up_the_irons | amdprophet: you have competition | [18:08] |
| intelprophet | haha | [18:08] |
| amdprophet | it's me :P | [18:08] |
| up_the_irons | intelprophet: probably bad rpf rule on one of my peers; if so, it is harmless, the router just can't send back the icmp b/c it is dropped at a peer | [18:09] |
| intelprophet | hmm interesting, maybe our dns server is having some fail then | [18:09] |
| up_the_irons | i've been meaning to find out who that is, but with over 30 peers and not enough time, it is hard... | [18:10] |
| amdprophet | my new imac just crashed... goodbye intelprophet | [18:11] |
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