#arpnetworks 2010-03-12,Fri

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dxtrAre the prices including VAT? :) [00:08]
And do one get an invoice by e-mail? If not; is that possible? [00:13]
bob^^you get an invoice by email dxtr
are you in the UK?
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dxtrNo
Why?
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bob^^asking about VAT :)
i thought we in the UK were the only ones to have VAT, obviously not :)
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dxtrNah, we have VAT in Sweden too [00:15]
bob^^ahh :) [00:15]
dxtrBut it's called moms hee
here*
Don't know if there's any real difference
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bob^^probably not, it's all just tax :( [00:16]
dxtrHehe, exactly
Been reading about the services from this place and I love them (At least in theory)
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bob^^well i'm pretty happy :D
absolutely no complaints here, got my vps running freebsd 8
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dxtrI get 50% more RAM, double hard drive space, the same amount of bandwidth, 10 more IPs and an ipv6 net for the same price I pay now [00:19]
bob^^yeah, the price is great [00:19]
dxtrI kinda came in my pants when I found it the other day [00:20]
bob^^haha :D
well i can't help on the tax question, but if it's anythink like the UK we don't have to pay tax on overseas purchases
(unless it's a parcel/package and then customs catch it on the way in to the country and send you a tax bill)
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dxtrYeah, well, I thought the US would have some kind of VAT :P
And the companies are usually evil and only display awesome prices exkl. the VAT
And when the time comes to pay one's like "WAT!?"
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bob^^ah - if you don't live in the US, you don't pay the US tax [00:22]
dxtr"This is madness! 25%!?" [00:22]
bob^^so the $20 is all you'll pay (translated into kronor i guess!) [00:22]
dxtrAwesome
Honestly, I'm thinking about 13 IPs for $8 and the $15 package
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bob^^i just got the freebsd special
really only using mine for svn and some web development at the moment
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dxtrA total of $23. I could afford five of those with no effort as I get 1050 SEK every month :P [00:23]
bob^^:D [00:24]
dxtrI'm using my VPS for DNS, mail, and irc (Including and identd)
an*
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bob^^should be fine, it's a really good service :D [00:25]
dxtrYeah
And I wanna run openbsd [00:25] <dxtr> o
Seriously, my current vps provider runs openbsd in vmware so it's expensive as hell (But Linux is cheap as they run it in openvz)
I'm paying about $23 now I think. Every month. If I wanto to run obsd I'll have to pay like $78. Excluding VAT.
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bob^^:/
that's expensive
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dxtrAnd that's for a very limited amount of ipv6 addresses (I'll have to pick them one by one) and an unstable network connection [00:29]
bob^^you get plenty of ipv6 with arp :D [00:29]
dxtrAnd like three ipv4 addresses :/
YEah :D
That's awesmoe
awesome even
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bob^^i think everyone in here is a happy customer :D [00:31]
dxtrToo bad I hardly got any money at the moment :/ [00:41]
bob^^:( [00:43]
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toddfdxtr: one way you might consider dipping your toes is get the smallest package, and then if thats not enough after you've transitioned you can add cpu/disk/mem at a later time [05:49]
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awyeahfor $24 you get 20GB and 768MB of RAM. Fantastic. And several IPv4 addresses and a whole IPv6 thing. [08:05]
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toddfyeah [08:21]
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awyeahbyte-for-byte, that's the best price I've seen.
It's been a couple of weeks for me here, and so far I'm pretty satisfied.
'course, at the same time... no contracts, so if you don't like it you can drop it like it's hto.
damnit.
drop it like it's hot.
drop drop it like it's hot.
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up_the_ironsdxtr: your current provider only gives you _individual_ IPs within an IPv6 subnet? if I'm hearing that correct,that is so VERY against the IPv6 mentality. You give subnets, not IPs [12:08]
dxtrup_the_irons: Correct [12:14]
up_the_ironswell that's dumb [12:14]
dxtrNo shit? :) [12:14]
up_the_ironshaha [12:14]
dxtrAnyhow, I'm considering either the $15 package or $20 special offer plus 13 ip addresses [12:16]
up_the_ironsrfc's 3177 and 5375 kinda point to every site getting a /48
dxtr: cool
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dxtrAnd as I asked earlier; I'll only have to pay $15 or $20 plus $8, right? No taxes added and stuff? [12:18]
up_the_ironsdxtr: right, no taxes [12:20]
toddfdxtr: in the US, you pay taxes if it is a `physical object sold', if you are providing a service, no taxes .. [12:20]
dxtrtoddf: Cool [12:20]
toddfat last, in my consulting business, I pay no taxes for consulting. if I made systems to sell, I'd have to file sales tax stuff per month reporting all income both sales tax related and not .. a pain.. [12:21]
dxtrSo I'll get it as soon as I get my hands on some of that.. ehm.. what's it called? Money!
Was a long time since I last saw some money
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shmgetin CT for computer services excluding web hosting and web related stuff, we have to charge 1% sales tax [13:00]
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