amdprophet: no we figured it out, unicorn decided to eat our server damn unicorns... amdprophet: LOL :p you should have seen the time i tried to get a unicorn and god to play nicely in freebsd... things did not go smoothly at all... lots of blood haha i think monit might be the way to go "lots of blood", yeah i've had those days ;) lol oh, no no no monit blows does it? oh i can't stand it i've never been able to get it to work right it's so annoying if you want to keep things running, runit is _the_ answer runit, might have to try to runit i'll take a look at that tomorrow it's not pretty, but it really works well: http://smarden.org/runit/index.html you don't have to replace init or anything scary like that; you can run it standalone. /nick awyeah whoop