up_the_irons: did you still run well before the herniated disc? I'm trying to get my 1.5 mile time down to 10 mins (right now it is 12:30) phlux: Yep, I did pretty well
Our PT test is actually 1.5 mile
we had to do it in 12:50, which seems like a lot of time to me
I played baseball in high school, so when I joined the CG, 12:50 was easy up_the_irons: yeah, that seems like a lot phlux: I did it in 11:00 up_the_irons: nice phlux: the swimming part is a bitch
it used to be 150 yards, but we had to do 500 up_the_irons: hah
water and me don't mix
really cold water makes me unable to breath phlux: well that's why the Coast Guard is here for you :D up_the_irons: LOL :) phlux: yeah they kept the pool water in basic training at a steady 65
it was freezing up_the_irons: i could do 65 i think; once i was in catalina water at like 50; well F*CK that
couldn't breath phlux: yeah 50 is bad
the last thing you want is hypothermia
we have these "mustang" suits for that purpose
they float, keep us dry, and keep us warm using our body heat
that was the only fun part about basic.. learning how to use those
hmm..brb up_the_irons: ah cool RandalSchwartz: hey up_the_irons up_the_irons: hey RandalSchwartz RandalSchwartz: so I got all my IPs on both boxes working now
including my v6's up_the_irons: sweet RandalSchwartz: just realized that's 80 bits worth of personal addresses up_the_irons: more like 16 bits worth of subnets RandalSchwartz: indeed.
and with comcast starting to deliver v6 to homes... up_the_irons: in IPv6, "number of IPs" is actually not much of a topic RandalSchwartz: I can use those up_the_irons: b/c there are so many; instead, we focus on how many subnets we have
/64 is your standard single subnet
i'm glad to see comcast getting on the ball
wonder if they'll give you a /56 or /48 to your home RandalSchwartz: what is mzima.net? up_the_irons: one of my transits RandalSchwartz: ok
I notice my traceroutes seem to be different at different times. :)
just whatever's closest, right? up_the_irons: "closest", yeah RandalSchwartz: anyway, I've got the formula down for how to turn your info into freebsd rc.conf files up_the_irons: it'll tend to fluctuate, just the nature of the 'net RandalSchwartz: I wonder if you could have a wiki so I can share what I figure out
not essential... just a thought up_the_irons: mmm.. all i got in the knowledge base RandalSchwartz: random thoughts are like that. :P up_the_irons: a wiki is a good thought though RandalSchwartz: in fact, you could modify your template for the box page to show configs
so I could just copy-paste them
if you knew I was freebsd, that is up_the_irons: oh that's true
yeah, the portal knows
i have an old article: http://support.arpnetworks.com/faqs/main/how-to-configure-ipv6-on-freebsd RandalSchwartz: defaultrouter=174.136.96.177
ipv4_addrs_em0=174.136.96.178/30
gateway_enable=YES
ipv6_enable=YES
ipv6_gateway_enable=YES
oops
ipv6_defaultrouter=2607:f2f8:1640::1
ipv6_ifconfig_em0=2607:f2f8:1640::/48
like that
if you published that based on the numbers, I coudl just copy/paste it
you need that when you're building the box stock anyway
or how do you image it? up_the_irons: those are generated automatically upon provisioning
rc.conf, etc... RandalSchwartz: oh cool
maybe if I had just captured mine before wiping the disk... :) up_the_irons: haha
it gets a little more complicated when a customer has more than 1 vps
i'm looking to separate the ip block info from the vps service item RandalSchwartz: I've talked with a lot of people about the idea of offsite ZFS snapshot backup service
you really need to look into that
it'd a be service almost nobody else is offering up_the_irons: b/c multiple VMs per customer is becoming a pain
yeah, i like that idea RandalSchwartz: hey - how do you handle someone wanting to go from a 20GB to a 40GB drive?
do you mount a 40GB drive in addition for a bit? up_the_irons: no
lvextend, fdisk -BI, disklabel, growfs
in a NUTSHELL RandalSchwartz: does zfs handle that? up_the_irons: oh i have no idea how to do it on zfs
most upgrades are ufs2 RandalSchwartz: yeah, just wondering up_the_irons: the ones that are not, are ext3 RandalSchwartz: might need to look into that
not for me, but neil might eventually get rid of $90/month to amazon
and send it your way instead up_the_irons: ec2? RandalSchwartz: yeah up_the_irons: what kinda stuff do u get for $90 on ec2? RandalSchwartz: just your basic dual CPU virtual box up_the_irons: running linux, or..? RandalSchwartz: opensolaris or linux or windows
not freebsd up_the_irons: ah i c
funny they support opensolaris first before freebsd RandalSchwartz: I'm going to mirror his stuff to his box here
Sun did it up_the_irons: ah RandalSchwartz: Sun made sure they were a player on EC2 up_the_irons: haha RandalSchwartz: the fbsd people are trying to get their stuff together
but not yet up_the_irons: yeah
so neil is looking for a ZFS based solution? RandalSchwartz: I'm gonna mirror all of his website from EC2 to here up_the_irons: (off-site backup, that is) RandalSchwartz: and then fire it up
and show him it's just as good
so he can get rid of EC2 up_the_irons: sweet RandalSchwartz: but his 20G is likely going to be a bit tight after a while
he has some media files to serve
hence the question up_the_irons: ah
and you put on ZFS for him? RandalSchwartz: his box is already live with email and DNS
yeah up_the_irons: ok
interesting RandalSchwartz: if you could just add a second 20G to the provision, I can mount it and spread data across both
zpool works that way
not sure what that looks like outside th ebox up_the_irons: i mean, i think it should be straight forward... if ZFS supports growing itself, then it is not an issue; extending the backing device (e.g. "making the 'physical' hard drive bigger") is trivial RandalSchwartz: yeah, I'll look into that
might require a few zraid swaps up_the_irons: yeah, alternatively, i could easily give you a 2nd disk RandalSchwartz: 20G zraid with 40G will silver 20G on both up_the_irons: in fact that is the way i did upgrades before i was savvy with growfs and e2resize RandalSchwartz: then you "fail" the 20G
and replace it with a 40G
and it silvers both with the data
then you "fail" the second 40G up_the_irons: nice RandalSchwartz: so that's one way to grow a disk if you have a bit of time
the nice thing is you can do that "live" up_the_irons: if you were to google for your remote zfs backup solution, what terms would you search for?
yeah, the "liveness" of it is hot
traditional method requires downtime RandalSchwartz: zfs is all about the uptime :)
zfs offsite backup
and there's already someone claiming to be "first" up_the_irons: roger RandalSchwartz: damn! up_the_irons: haha RandalSchwartz: ... http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/29/dattos-z-series-worlds-first-on-off-site-backup-solution-to/
two years ago!
smugmug uses ZFS
I should get you in contact with someone there
so you can talk to them about ZFS best practices, and maybe they can help you figure out how this is best done
anyway - I think there's a business in there
and if you can figure out how to solve the last piece of redundancy up_the_irons: yeah i think you're right RandalSchwartz: you'll be one of the few (if not the first) to have it all up_the_irons: http://developers.sun.com/solaris/articles/storage_utils.html
sun has something to say about it RandalSchwartz: you already have redundant disk, power, nets, etc.
you just need redundant geography
and I know many corps would pay nicely for htat
at multiple levels
data somewhere else
data somewhere else, ready to become hot after DNS up_the_irons: redundant geography isn't too hard; just gotta ship a router and some boxes somewhere RandalSchwartz: data somewhere else, ready to become hot on HA failover
and with ZFS snapshot shipping, minimum bytes to ship up_the_irons: the 2nd site would have different IP range, so it'd be a DNS fail-over solution; with some experimentation and cost, it may be possible to share IP space RandalSchwartz: well - as I said, you could price differnet solutions differently up_the_irons: right RandalSchwartz: for me, for example, if I just had a way to get my data again, even if it required provisioning a new box, I'd be happy
but for some, having a second spare box ready to fire up would be better up_the_irons: right RandalSchwartz: that is, for me, you wouldn't have to allocate enough CPU beyond receiving the ZFS data
but for the second tier, you have to allocate enough cpu/memory/power for a box to go live at any moment
that's why I think you could have a nice variety of products for every off-site need
at different price points
I'm suggesting this to you because it's clear to me you already understand and live and breathe redundancy. :) up_the_irons: Yes :)
I think about redundancy every day, it is a sickness really
;) RandalSchwartz: well - you're the guy I want on my side then. :)
by the way, I landed a nice 3-month contract in LA starting 3/15
so I'll be down your way quite a bit
do you know oversee.net ? up_the_irons: nice
no, i'm not familiar with them RandalSchwartz: basically, about 80% of the search-spam landing pages...
all done with a few dozen linux boxes to serve something like a million domains up_the_irons: nice RandalSchwartz: 44th floor of the building just northwest of the downtown library
some odd lawfirm name
diagonal from mccormick and schmicks
4th and flower maybe
something like that
515 S Flower up_the_irons: sounds familiar RandalSchwartz: so anyway, I'll be nearby soon
for probably halftime onsite, halftime off
I'd like to meet you some day. :) up_the_irons: sure, let's get some lunch :)
and you'll be real close to the data center, i can show you around RandalSchwartz: nice
the center that's also the "cop station" in southland :) up_the_irons: yup, exactly :) RandalSchwartz: ok - well, I think it's time for me to sleep... nice chatting with you again. up_the_irons: RandalSchwartz: nice chattin' ! g'night ***: [FBI] starts logging #arpnetworks at Sun Mar 07 02:43:00 2010
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ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks ziyourenxiang: today when i ran freebsd-update on 7.2 is says that 7.2 is EOL soon... what do peope run? RELENG_7 or RELENG_8? shmget: I use 8.0 bob^^: 8 on my vps, 7 on my own colo box (need to update it!) toddf: up_the_irons: openbgpd was written and developed to address the deficencies of quagga (and its predecessor)
up_the_irons: you'll find that pps performance is indicative of the hardware/os not the routing software
up_the_irons: openbgpd specifically has good bgp performance, not taking minutes to recalculate routes if anything changes; it is a tangent but it is noteworthy openbgpd takes 32mb for a full routing table, cisco takes 64mb
up_the_irons: I've never seen what you describe on MegaRAID it must be an older system or something, always clearly raid0/raid1/raid5/raid10/etc on my systems:
eclipse$ sudo bioctl ami0
Volume Status Size Device
ami0 0 Online 8986296320 sd0 RAID0
0 Online 9106882560 0:15.0 noencl <IBM OEM DCHS09W 2222>
ami0 1 Online 440087347200 sd1 RAID5
0 Online 146811125760 1:3.0 ses0 <FUJITSU MAP3147NC 5608>
1 Online 146811125760 1:8.0 ses0 <FUJITSU MAP3147NC 5608>
2 Online 146811125760 1:4.0 ses0 <SEAGATE ST3146807LC DS04>
3 Online 146811125760 1:5.0 ses0 <FUJITSU MAP3147NC 5608>
ami0 2 Hot spare 146815733248 1:2.0 ses0 <SEAGATE ST3146807LC DS04> awyeah: ziyourenxiang: 7.2 is EOL soon because 7.3 will be out
Jesus, I should just pf deny everything from apnic. ziyourenxiang: ok, so i'll be able to freebsd-update to that then awyeah: Yep. 7.3 just isn't out quite yet. ***: ziyourenxiang has quit IRC (Quit: ziyourenxiang) awyeah: hm phlux: hm ***: visinin has joined #arpnetworks
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amdprophet has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving...) shmget: anyone in the channel have sales experience? RandalSchwartz: I sell myself all the time -: RandalSchwartz puts on the red dress and high heels RandalSchwartz: what's your question? shmget: I'm a geek with no inclination to sales. I started a software consulting company, and got some projects in 2004-2005
since then, things have been slow
I'm trying to figure out how to sell my services. I have a website, and have good SEO rankings RandalSchwartz: figure out what you're good at, and where people are who might want that
then figure out what they read, look at, think about
and get into those shmget: yeah, i have been relying on writing articles and other things to 'attract' people, but i'm thinking I'll have to start cold calling RandalSchwartz: old calling sucks
in general, easier to go hang out where they are
conferences, watering holes jeev: shmget, im in the same boat as you
i dont code and shit but
i do do well for myself, i just am not a salesman, it sucks ass
brb lazy shmget: once in awhile someone sees my resume and gets in touch, but not much ***: baklava has quit IRC (*.net *.split)
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