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[04:36] <richardquisumbin> hi, is garry dolley logged in?
[04:47] <schmir> he uses the nick up_the_irons
[04:49] <up_the_irons> sleep is what my ragged brain desires...
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[08:15] <nemith> does arp have a hosted dns service?
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[13:31] <up_the_irons> nemith: no, there's several free services that'll do that for you
[13:33] <awyeah> nemith: One thing you can do is host primary DNS on your VPS, and use a free service to do secondary.
[13:33] <awyeah> The registrar I use - gandi.net - provides this service for no charge if your domain is registered with them.
[13:39] <nemith> awyeah: thats not a bad idea
[13:39] <nemith> i have godaddy as a registrar (yeah yeah..) and I would rather hump balsa wood than use thier service :)
[13:41] <mike-burns> THere are services that offer secondary DNS for you, for example http://www.zoneedit.com/ and http://www.everydns.com/
[13:57] <awyeah> Step 1: Move your domain name from GoDaddy to somewhere else.
[13:57] <awyeah> Step 2: Did you do step 1 yet?
[13:57] <awyeah> :)
[13:58] <awyeah> Yeah zoneedit is good, I've used them.  twisted4life.com is also good.
[14:04] <jlgaddis> eventually i'll do primary on my own vps, then just swap secondary w/ somebody else
[14:08] <toddf> awyeah: I like godaddy's ability to let me do v6 easily on the dns servers
[14:08] <toddf> awyeah: and I haven't found anywhere that is cheaper
[14:08] <toddf> awyeah: other than the annoying ads, what is bad about godaddy if you host your own dns?
[14:10] <awyeah> Hang on let me find the slashdot articles
[14:10] <mike-burns> Oh this is gonna be good.
[14:11] <awyeah> http://blog.tigertech.net/posts/transfer-policy-violations/
[14:12] <awyeah> And apparently that's not the first time they've violated ICANN rules.
[14:12] <awyeah> So maybe it's just more of a principled stand.
[14:13] <awyeah> The other reason I like Gandi... their slogan.  Right on the top left of their page:  "No Bullshit"
[14:13] <awyeah> They even trademarked it.
[14:13] <awyeah> I mean, how can you beat that.
[14:14] <awyeah> Alright - the time has come for me to leave the office.  I'll probably be back on later tonight.
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[14:47] <nemith> awyeah: heh
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[15:58] <toddf> amyeah: if you point me to a registrar that equals or exceeds godaddy.com in pricing, I'd be happy to consider them..
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[19:41] <awyeah> Hrm, I need to start using public keys for ssh. Remembering lots of passwords is annoying.
[19:42] <awyeah> Oh. Here's another thing.  I've been trying to figure this out forever.
[19:43] <awyeah> Anyone know how you can enforce password expiration in freebsd?
[19:45] <mike-burns> pw(8) has a -p flag that handles this.
[19:46] <awyeah> Yeah but freebsd doesn't enforce it.
[19:46] <awyeah> I've played with that one.
[19:47] <awyeah> You set an expiration date and it does nothing
[19:47] <awyeah> it goes in the passwd file for sure.
[19:47] <mike-burns> Interesting. I've never tried it; thought pam enforced it. I got nothin'.
[19:49] <awyeah> heh
[19:50] <awyeah> It could just be that I was doing it wrong.
[19:50] <awyeah> I had posted a question on the bsd forums a while back, and got nothing
[19:50] <awyeah> Apparently nobody in the bsd world gives a shit about good password policies ;)
[19:50] <mike-burns> Clearly.
[19:54] <awyeah> heh
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[20:21] <awyeah> top
[20:21] <awyeah> ack
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