up_the_irons you there Hey! Just curious - how long does VPS provisioning usually take? mine took about 24 hours awyeah Not bad. i swear man when people order, they're so anxious that's how i was lol why are we like that ? i guess we're used to physical things when we buy hehe yeah I think I've just been spoiled by the cheaper hosting services that have processes that are more automated ;) it's worth the wait :) These guys are good, eh? I haven't heard anything bad. yea you shouldn't have any issues just be careful not to use openbsd, since toddf has admitted that he forked openbsd out of windows 7. Ha. Well I heard the networking stack in Win 7 was much improved. So... you know. hahahaha so funny openbsd and win 7 lol Guess I'll just have to stick with FreeBSD :) works for me I'm now managing two freebsd boxes at arp by the way, if up_the_irons is around, insightcruises.com mail is now live on an arp box and the customer is happy except he gets more spam :) RandalSchwartz: Have you tried spam assassin? Or, if you want managed spam protection... postini is pretty good. yeah brb. theme alchemist ergh. up_the_irons: thanks :) RandalSchwartz, i'[m too lazy to connect and check the banner what are you running, mta did up sleep through the weekend? :D ? up was awake at three something in the morning on saturday and he hasnt been around yet this weekend you waiting for activation ? lol yeah i ordered something on friday and wanted to change it from the 10$ to the 15$ and ive been waiting around for him to reappear just send an email to support and sales.. i did ok then it shouldn't be a problem saturday morning i'm sure he is waiting to activate everyone on the 1st for easier accounting yeah you guys gotta remember, $10/$15/m service doesn't really come with 24/7 service even though there aren't problems.. i dont expect 24/7 out of him at all, i was just making a joke because he was up way late working on activating several servers tomorrow when you get your vps, you'll be stuck trying to figure out what to do to it first :) i had mine for 3 months and didn't do anything, it's confusing! learning openbsd >_> yep i know oh he was activating ? friday night i see till three in the morning at $20/m, arp has to be stealing this hardware to turn a profit lol ja, :P and to peer with that many other dcs peering is nothing hehe the hardware probably costs him more than the network heh i've got 2 gbit and 2 average servers cost more than the MRC on the 2gbit i just wish there were more dcs i norcal *in ah norcal sucks true dat are you from turlock ? but, i cant go anywhere else lol, it's a funny ass name sacramento turlock but turlock's pretty close heh im really in folsom, so gold country but sac's not that far cool, prison too eh :D im pretty much on top of relynet but 1MBit 95th percentile for 100$/mo? thats rediculous nasty there are decent dc's in san francisco yeah i'd go closer to fremont hey, fremont has the cheapest priced dc on earth, no? oh haha you can get HE for the price of cofee coffee lemme pull up that quote its rediculous Full cabinet + 100 Mbps / 100 port for $600/month special! ($500 for the cabinet, 100 Mbps @ $1/Mbps bandwidth) thats a 42U 42U with 1mbit ? no, 42U with 100mbit from HE for $600/mo oh from HE oh i thought you said 100 bux a meg yea HE is cheap i wonder if i can get 1gbit for 1000/m to one wilshire at relynet (folsom dc) its $100 for 1mbit heh yea i bet they got customers though yeah local customers who want HA BUT i know HE is somewhere near or even at one wilshire but i dunno they finally wired up the whole city with fiber that'd be funny to get 100mbit for 100 bux there you can get 50/50 for 160$/mo lucky you or there.. not you i see your on gaytt\ haha i totally agree with that statement im not in charge of this house new house will though move in date is so far away ;_; nice or gaytt i've got uverse and charter i heard charter was pretty bad Every cable company I've dealt with sucks. All of them. haha They over-subscribe and under deliver. charter blows ass I'm lucky - where I live, time warner has relatively new equipment, so when it slows down during peak times, it slows down to about 10mbps. ;_; thats way fast Where my parents live... peak times they barely get 500k. i finally got 6mbit up from 1.5mbit And they're subscribed to the 7mbit service. i used to have the 768kbit service thats criminally low That's terrible! they actually sell 768k/386k its like isdn but dsl That would be good for my grandmother. She spends about 45 minutes on the computer per week to compose the weekly family letter. Right now she uses NetZero. I'm not even kidding. oh dear my grandma is just like that, but she got comcast "because dsl is too slow" apparently she can tell the difference haha Either that or she believes the comcast commercials. :P comblastic Time Warner claims their 7mbit service is 50 times faster than DSL. Except the standard DSL plan here is 6mbit. >_> weekly family letter? wow. Hey my grandparents have been doing it for like 50 years. I mean they used to mail the letters. Anyway, it's one of those situations that we've all run into being the "computer person" of the family crazy You can't do anything with dialup anymore. I can't do any windows or antivirus updates your grandpa can't get adult sites hahah But yeah, the way Time Warner acts, it's as though they could care less about my business. Both on the TV and internet side. Our local telco, on the other hand - wonderful. haha all those companies suck even verizon fios tey're all thieving and shit Yeah? just imagine when we have 1gbit to our homes, they can monitor and inject shit as much as they want Problem is, people are willing to deal with that. thank god for openvpn Isn't that comcast that set up their DNS servers to lie? i dont know I think they have it so whenever they get an NXDOMAIN response, their DNS servers redirect you to some page of their own that has ads and shit on it. yea, that's old but they do DPI and inject shit anyway DPI? or some have tried or do deep packet inspection or some shit Ugh. I don't think time warner does that. I hope they don't. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21284471-Deep-Packet-Inspection-Plan-Defeats-Encryption-Compression http://www.broadbandreports.com/shownews/Virgin-Media-Starts-Snooping-In-User-Packets-105670 it's what IRAN uses to own it's citizens Yeh. by the way i'm a big fan of ahmadinejad lol the "wipe israel off the map" shit is fake I mean, I'm okay with my ISP doing a certain amount of QoS. That's just basic network management. thta's not qos! No I know that's horse crap. But if I ever found out they were doing something along the lines of that, even if it was under the auspices of preventing crime, I think I'd change ISPs. so you'd use dial up? If it came down to that, i'd probably have to find a way around it At that point, I'd be perfectly willing to buy a server, some rackspace, and fire up a VPN solution. Or something along those lines. Who knows. i'll sell you one 5mbit/ 500 bux a month Heh. I wouldn't spend $500/month on that until it actually started happening. :) The other option would be to get business-class internet. heh in ten years, we're all screwed. watch. I recommend http://bway.net/ as an ISP, if you can get 'em. They're crazy about protecting your privcy. Hm. Might be an east-coast only thing. Probly. The DSL company around here is pretty good. They're not a big one like AT&T or Verizon. O.o this soviet national anthem rules. heh why is adsl2 so expensive though is it cause they can put a premium on 15mbit ? because the US internet infrastructure is slow for some reason yea but you could get uverse on vdsl 18 meg for 60 bux or something i want to know if adsl2 has a premium no it on it