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[01:16] *** up_the_irons has joined #arpnetworks [01:16] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o up_the_irons [01:21] *** mick_home has joined #arpnetworks [01:33] *** blovett has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [01:34] *** blovett has joined #arpnetworks [02:08] *** baklava has joined #arpnetworks [02:31] *** mick_home has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [05:26] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [05:26] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [07:58] *** mick_home has joined #arpnetworks [07:58] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks [07:58] up_the_irons [07:58] you there [08:54] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC (Quit: ziyourenxiang) [09:35] *** mick_home has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [09:39] *** mick_home has joined #arpnetworks [09:52] *** Sue-sama has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [10:04] *** dja has joined #arpnetworks [10:12] *** SueFSRV has joined #arpnetworks [10:13] *** SueFSRV is now known as Sue-sama [10:35] *** mick_home has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [10:52] *** Sue-sama has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [12:15] *** dja has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [13:09] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [13:13] *** schmir has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [13:51] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [14:06] *** mick_home has joined #arpnetworks [14:07] *** mick_laptop has joined #arpnetworks [14:33] Hey! Just curious - how long does VPS provisioning usually take? [14:35] mine took about 24 hours awyeah [14:40] *** mick_home has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [14:41] *** mick_laptop has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [14:45] Not bad. [14:47] i swear man when people order, they're so anxious [14:47] that's how i was lol [14:47] why are we like that ? i guess we're used to physical things when we buy [14:48] *** schmir has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [14:49] hehe yeah [14:55] I think I've just been spoiled by the cheaper hosting services that have processes that are more automated ;) [14:58] it's worth the wait :) [15:12] *** mick_laptop has joined #arpnetworks [15:12] *** mick_home has joined #arpnetworks [15:17] *** mick_home has quit IRC (Client Quit) [15:25] These guys are good, eh? I haven't heard anything bad. [15:43] yea [15:43] you shouldn't have any issues [15:43] just be careful not to use openbsd, since toddf has admitted that he forked openbsd out of windows 7. [15:56] Ha. [15:56] Well I heard the networking stack in Win 7 was much improved. [15:57] So... you know. [16:50] hahahaha so funny openbsd and win 7 lol [16:55] Guess I'll just have to stick with FreeBSD :) [16:55] works for me [16:59] I'm now managing two freebsd boxes [16:59] at arp [17:00] by the way, if up_the_irons is around, insightcruises.com mail is now live on an arp box [17:00] and the customer is happy [17:00] except he gets more spam :) [17:12] RandalSchwartz: Have you tried spam assassin? [17:12] Or, if you want managed spam protection... postini is pretty good. [17:13] yeah [17:22] brb. [17:22] *** awyeah has quit IRC (Quit: brb.) [17:31] *** awyeah has joined #arpnetworks [17:36] theme alchemist [17:36] ergh. [17:42] up_the_irons: thanks :) [17:43] *** mick_laptop has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [18:37] *** Sue-sama has joined #arpnetworks [18:44] RandalSchwartz, i'[m too lazy to connect and check the banner [18:44] what are you running, mta [18:49] did up sleep through the weekend? :D [18:55] ? [19:10] up was awake at three something in the morning on saturday and he hasnt been around yet this weekend [19:11] you waiting for activation ? lol [19:11] yeah [19:12] i ordered something on friday [19:12] and wanted to change it from the 10$ to the 15$ [19:12] and ive been waiting around for him to reappear [19:12] just send an email to support and sales.. [19:12] i did [19:12] ok then it shouldn't be a problem [19:12] saturday morning [19:12] i'm sure he is waiting to activate everyone on the 1st for easier accounting [19:13] yeah [19:13] you guys gotta remember, $10/$15/m service doesn't really come with 24/7 service [19:13] even though there aren't problems.. [19:14] i dont expect 24/7 out of him at all, i was just making a joke [19:14] because he was up way late working on activating several servers [19:16] tomorrow when you get your vps, you'll be stuck trying to figure out what to do to it first :) [19:16] i had mine for 3 months and didn't do anything, it's confusing! [19:17] learning openbsd >_> [19:19] yep i know [19:19] oh he was activating ? [19:19] friday night [19:19] i see [19:19] till three in the morning [19:19] at $20/m, arp has to be stealing this hardware to turn a profit lol [19:20] ja, :P [19:20] and to peer with that many other dcs [19:20] peering is nothing hehe [19:20] the hardware probably costs him more than the network [19:20] heh [19:21] i've got 2 gbit and 2 average servers cost more than the MRC on the 2gbit [19:22] i just wish there were more dcs i norcal [19:22] *in [19:22] ah norcal sucks [19:22] true dat [19:22] are you from turlock ? [19:22] but, i cant go anywhere else [19:22] lol, it's a funny ass name [19:22] sacramento [19:23] turlock [19:23] but turlock's pretty close [19:23] heh [19:23] im really in folsom, so gold country [19:23] but sac's not that far [19:23] cool, prison too eh [19:23] :D [19:23] im pretty much on top of relynet [19:24] but 1MBit 95th percentile for 100$/mo? [19:24] thats rediculous [19:24] nasty [19:24] there are decent dc's in san francisco [19:24] yeah [19:25] i'd go closer to fremont [19:25] hey, fremont has the cheapest priced dc on earth, no? [19:25] oh [19:25] haha [19:25] you can get HE for the price of cofee [19:25] coffee [19:25] lemme pull up that quote [19:25] its rediculous [19:26] Full cabinet + 100 Mbps / 100 port for $600/month special! [19:26] ($500 for the cabinet, 100 Mbps @ $1/Mbps bandwidth) [19:26] thats a 42U [19:26] 42U with 1mbit ? [19:26] no, 42U with 100mbit [19:26] from HE [19:26] for $600/mo [19:27] oh [19:27] from HE [19:27] oh [19:27] i thought you said 100 bux a meg [19:27] yea HE is cheap [19:27] i wonder if i can get 1gbit for 1000/m to one wilshire [19:27] at relynet (folsom dc) its $100 for 1mbit [19:27] heh yea i bet they got customers though [19:27] yeah [19:27] local customers who want HA [19:28] BUT [19:28] i know HE is somewhere near or even at one wilshire but i dunno [19:28] they finally wired up the whole city with fiber [19:28] that'd be funny to get 100mbit for 100 bux there [19:28] you can get 50/50 for 160$/mo [19:28] lucky you [19:28] or there.. not you [19:28] i see your on gaytt\ [19:28] haha [19:28] i totally agree with that statement [19:29] im not in charge of this house [19:29] new house will though [19:29] move in date is so far away ;_; [19:30] nice [19:32] * Sue-sama can't wait to be done with ATT [19:32] or gaytt [19:35] i've got uverse and charter [19:36] i heard charter was pretty bad [19:37] Every cable company I've dealt with sucks. [19:38] All of them. [19:38] haha [19:38] They over-subscribe and under deliver. [19:38] charter blows ass [19:38] I'm lucky - where I live, time warner has relatively new equipment, so when it slows down during peak times, it slows down to about 10mbps. [19:39] ;_; [19:39] thats way fast [19:39] Where my parents live... peak times they barely get 500k. [19:39] i finally got 6mbit up from 1.5mbit [19:39] And they're subscribed to the 7mbit service. [19:39] i used to have the 768kbit service [19:40] thats criminally low [19:40] That's terrible! [19:40] they actually sell 768k/386k [19:40] its like isdn but dsl [19:40] That would be good for my grandmother. [19:41] She spends about 45 minutes on the computer per week to compose the weekly family letter. [19:41] Right now she uses NetZero. [19:41] I'm not even kidding. [19:41] oh dear [19:41] my grandma is just like that, but she got comcast "because dsl is too slow" [19:41] apparently she can tell the difference [19:41] haha [19:41] Either that or she believes the comcast commercials. [19:41] :P [19:42] comblastic [19:42] Time Warner claims their 7mbit service is 50 times faster than DSL. [19:42] Except the standard DSL plan here is 6mbit. [19:42] >_> [19:44] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [19:44] weekly family letter? wow. [19:45] Hey my grandparents have been doing it for like 50 years. [19:48] I mean they used to mail the letters. [19:48] Anyway, it's one of those situations that we've all run into being the "computer person" of the family [19:48] crazy [19:49] You can't do anything with dialup anymore. [19:49] I can't do any windows or antivirus updates [19:49] your grandpa can't get adult sites [19:49] hahah [19:51] But yeah, the way Time Warner acts, it's as though they could care less about my business. [19:52] Both on the TV and internet side. [19:52] Our local telco, on the other hand - wonderful. [19:55] haha [19:59] all those companies suck [19:59] even verizon fios [19:59] tey're all thieving and shit [19:59] Yeah? [19:59] just imagine when we have 1gbit to our homes, they can monitor and inject shit as much as they want [20:01] Problem is, people are willing to deal with that. [20:02] thank god for openvpn [20:02] Isn't that comcast that set up their DNS servers to lie? [20:02] i dont know [20:03] I think they have it so whenever they get an NXDOMAIN response, their DNS servers redirect you to some page of their own that has ads and shit on it. [20:04] yea, that's old [20:04] but they do DPI [20:04] and inject shit anyway [20:04] DPI? [20:04] or some have tried or do [20:04] deep packet inspection or some shit [20:04] Ugh. [20:05] I don't think time warner does that. [20:05] I hope they don't. [20:05] http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21284471-Deep-Packet-Inspection-Plan-Defeats-Encryption-Compression [20:06] http://www.broadbandreports.com/shownews/Virgin-Media-Starts-Snooping-In-User-Packets-105670 [20:06] it's what IRAN uses to own it's citizens [20:06] Yeh. [20:06] by the way i'm a big fan of ahmadinejad lol [20:06] the "wipe israel off the map" shit is fake [20:07] I mean, I'm okay with my ISP doing a certain amount of QoS. [20:07] That's just basic network management. [20:07] thta's not qos! [20:07] No I know [20:07] that's horse crap. [20:08] But if I ever found out they were doing something along the lines of that, even if it was under the auspices of preventing crime, I think I'd change ISPs. [20:09] so you'd use dial up? [20:09] If it came down to that, i'd probably have to find a way around it [20:10] At that point, I'd be perfectly willing to buy a server, some rackspace, and fire up a VPN solution. [20:10] Or something along those lines. Who knows. [20:10] i'll sell you one [20:10] 5mbit/ 500 bux a month [20:11] Heh. I wouldn't spend $500/month on that until it actually started happening. :) [20:12] The other option would be to get business-class internet. [20:12] heh [20:12] in ten years, we're all screwed. watch. [20:24] *** Sue-sama has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:24] I recommend http://bway.net/ as an ISP, if you can get 'em. They're crazy about protecting your privcy. [20:26] Hm. [20:27] Might be an east-coast only thing. [20:33] Probly. [20:33] The DSL company around here is pretty good. They're not a big one like AT&T or Verizon. [20:52] *** Sue-sama has joined #arpnetworks [20:52] O.o [21:28] this soviet national anthem rules. [21:29] heh [21:30] why is adsl2 so expensive though [21:30] is it cause they can put a premium on 15mbit ? [21:30] because the US internet infrastructure is slow [21:30] for some reason [21:30] yea but you could get uverse on vdsl [21:30] 18 meg for 60 bux or something [21:30] i want to know if adsl2 has a premium no it [21:30] on it