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| awyeah | Hey! Just curious - how long does VPS provisioning usually take? | [14:33] |
| bob^^ | mine took about 24 hours awyeah | [14:35] |
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| awyeah | Not bad. | [14:45] |
| jeev | i swear man when people order, they're so anxious
that's how i was lol why are we like that ? i guess we're used to physical things when we buy | [14:47] |
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| bob^^ | hehe yeah | [14:49] |
| awyeah | I think I've just been spoiled by the cheaper hosting services that have processes that are more automated ;) | [14:55] |
| bob^^ | it's worth the wait :) | [14:58] |
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| awyeah | These guys are good, eh? I haven't heard anything bad. | [15:25] |
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| jeev | yea
you shouldn't have any issues just be careful not to use openbsd, since toddf has admitted that he forked openbsd out of windows 7. | [15:43] |
| awyeah | Ha.
Well I heard the networking stack in Win 7 was much improved. So... you know. | [15:56] |
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| dbgi | hahahaha so funny openbsd and win 7 lol | [16:50] |
| awyeah | Guess I'll just have to stick with FreeBSD :) | [16:55] |
| RandalSchwartz | works for me
I'm now managing two freebsd boxes at arp by the way, if up_the_irons is around, insightcruises.com mail is now live on an arp box and the customer is happy except he gets more spam :) | [16:55] |
| awyeah | RandalSchwartz: Have you tried spam assassin?
Or, if you want managed spam protection... postini is pretty good. | [17:12] |
| RandalSchwartz | yeah | [17:13] |
| awyeah | brb. | [17:22] |
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| awyeah | theme alchemist
ergh. | [17:36] |
| mick_laptop | up_the_irons: thanks :) | [17:42] |
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| jeev | RandalSchwartz, i'[m too lazy to connect and check the banner
what are you running, mta | [18:44] |
| Sue-sama | did up sleep through the weekend? :D | [18:49] |
| jeev | ? | [18:55] |
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| Sue-sama | up was awake at three something in the morning on saturday and he hasnt been around yet this weekend | [19:10] |
| jeev | you waiting for activation ? lol | [19:11] |
| Sue-sama | yeah
i ordered something on friday and wanted to change it from the 10$ to the 15$ and ive been waiting around for him to reappear | [19:11] |
| jeev | just send an email to support and sales.. | [19:12] |
| Sue-sama | i did | [19:12] |
| jeev | ok then it shouldn't be a problem | [19:12] |
| Sue-sama | saturday morning | [19:12] |
| jeev | i'm sure he is waiting to activate everyone on the 1st for easier accounting | [19:12] |
| Sue-sama | yeah | [19:13] |
| jeev | you guys gotta remember, $10/$15/m service doesn't really come with 24/7 service
even though there aren't problems.. | [19:13] |
| Sue-sama | i dont expect 24/7 out of him at all, i was just making a joke
because he was up way late working on activating several servers | [19:14] |
| jeev | tomorrow when you get your vps, you'll be stuck trying to figure out what to do to it first :)
i had mine for 3 months and didn't do anything, it's confusing! | [19:16] |
| Sue-sama | learning openbsd >_> | [19:17] |
| jeev | yep i know
oh he was activating ? | [19:19] |
| Sue-sama | friday night | [19:19] |
| jeev | i see | [19:19] |
| Sue-sama | till three in the morning | [19:19] |
| jeev | at $20/m, arp has to be stealing this hardware to turn a profit lol | [19:19] |
| Sue-sama | ja, :P
and to peer with that many other dcs | [19:20] |
| jeev | peering is nothing hehe
the hardware probably costs him more than the network | [19:20] |
| Sue-sama | heh | [19:20] |
| jeev | i've got 2 gbit and 2 average servers cost more than the MRC on the 2gbit | [19:21] |
| Sue-sama | i just wish there were more dcs i norcal
*in | [19:22] |
| jeev | ah norcal sucks | [19:22] |
| Sue-sama | true dat | [19:22] |
| jeev | are you from turlock ? | [19:22] |
| Sue-sama | but, i cant go anywhere else | [19:22] |
| jeev | lol, it's a funny ass name | [19:22] |
| Sue-sama | sacramento | [19:22] |
| jeev | turlock | [19:23] |
| Sue-sama | but turlock's pretty close | [19:23] |
| jeev | heh | [19:23] |
| Sue-sama | im really in folsom, so gold country
but sac's not that far | [19:23] |
| jeev | cool, prison too eh | [19:23] |
| Sue-sama | :D
im pretty much on top of relynet but 1MBit 95th percentile for 100$/mo? thats rediculous | [19:23] |
| jeev | nasty
there are decent dc's in san francisco | [19:24] |
| Sue-sama | yeah
i'd go closer to fremont | [19:24] |
| jeev | hey, fremont has the cheapest priced dc on earth, no? | [19:25] |
| Sue-sama | oh
haha | [19:25] |
| jeev | you can get HE for the price of cofee
coffee | [19:25] |
| Sue-sama | lemme pull up that quote
its rediculous Full cabinet + 100 Mbps / 100 port for $600/month special! ($500 for the cabinet, 100 Mbps @ $1/Mbps bandwidth) thats a 42U | [19:25] |
| jeev | 42U with 1mbit ? | [19:26] |
| Sue-sama | no, 42U with 100mbit
from HE for $600/mo | [19:26] |
| jeev | oh
from HE oh i thought you said 100 bux a meg yea HE is cheap i wonder if i can get 1gbit for 1000/m to one wilshire | [19:27] |
| Sue-sama | at relynet (folsom dc) its $100 for 1mbit | [19:27] |
| jeev | heh yea i bet they got customers though | [19:27] |
| Sue-sama | yeah
local customers who want HA BUT | [19:27] |
| jeev | i know HE is somewhere near or even at one wilshire but i dunno | [19:28] |
| Sue-sama | they finally wired up the whole city with fiber | [19:28] |
| jeev | that'd be funny to get 100mbit for 100 bux there | [19:28] |
| Sue-sama | you can get 50/50 for 160$/mo | [19:28] |
| jeev | lucky you
or there.. not you i see your on gaytt[19:28] <Sue-sama> haha | [19:28] |
| Sue-sama | i totally agree with that statement
im not in charge of this house new house will though move in date is so far away ;_; | [19:28] |
| jeev | nice | [19:30] |
| Sue-sama | Sue-sama can't wait to be done with ATT
or gaytt | [19:32] |
| jeev | i've got uverse and charter | [19:35] |
| Sue-sama | i heard charter was pretty bad | [19:36] |
| awyeah | Every cable company I've dealt with sucks.
All of them. | [19:37] |
| Sue-sama | haha | [19:38] |
| awyeah | They over-subscribe and under deliver. | [19:38] |
| jeev | charter blows ass | [19:38] |
| awyeah | I'm lucky - where I live, time warner has relatively new equipment, so when it slows down during peak times, it slows down to about 10mbps. | [19:38] |
| Sue-sama | ;_;
thats way fast | [19:39] |
| awyeah | Where my parents live... peak times they barely get 500k. | [19:39] |
| Sue-sama | i finally got 6mbit up from 1.5mbit | [19:39] |
| awyeah | And they're subscribed to the 7mbit service. | [19:39] |
| Sue-sama | i used to have the 768kbit service
thats criminally low | [19:39] |
| awyeah | That's terrible! | [19:40] |
| Sue-sama | they actually sell 768k/386k
its like isdn but dsl | [19:40] |
| awyeah | That would be good for my grandmother.
She spends about 45 minutes on the computer per week to compose the weekly family letter. Right now she uses NetZero. I'm not even kidding. | [19:40] |
| Sue-sama | oh dear
my grandma is just like that, but she got comcast "because dsl is too slow" apparently she can tell the difference | [19:41] |
| awyeah | haha
Either that or she believes the comcast commercials. | [19:41] |
| Sue-sama | :P
comblastic | [19:41] |
| awyeah | Time Warner claims their 7mbit service is 50 times faster than DSL.
Except the standard DSL plan here is 6mbit. | [19:42] |
| Sue-sama | >_> | [19:42] |
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| jeev | weekly family letter? wow. | [19:44] |
| awyeah | Hey my grandparents have been doing it for like 50 years.
I mean they used to mail the letters. Anyway, it's one of those situations that we've all run into being the "computer person" of the family | [19:45] |
| jeev | crazy | [19:48] |
| awyeah | You can't do anything with dialup anymore.
I can't do any windows or antivirus updates | [19:49] |
| jeev | your grandpa can't get adult sites | [19:49] |
| awyeah | hahah
But yeah, the way Time Warner acts, it's as though they could care less about my business. Both on the TV and internet side. Our local telco, on the other hand - wonderful. | [19:49] |
| Sue-sama | haha | [19:55] |
| jeev | all those companies suck
even verizon fios tey're all thieving and shit | [19:59] |
| awyeah | Yeah? | [19:59] |
| jeev | just imagine when we have 1gbit to our homes, they can monitor and inject shit as much as they want | [19:59] |
| awyeah | Problem is, people are willing to deal with that. | [20:01] |
| jeev | thank god for openvpn | [20:02] |
| awyeah | Isn't that comcast that set up their DNS servers to lie? | [20:02] |
| jeev | i dont know | [20:02] |
| awyeah | I think they have it so whenever they get an NXDOMAIN response, their DNS servers redirect you to some page of their own that has ads and shit on it. | [20:03] |
| jeev | yea, that's old
but they do DPI and inject shit anyway | [20:04] |
| awyeah | DPI? | [20:04] |
| jeev | or some have tried or do
deep packet inspection or some shit | [20:04] |
| awyeah | Ugh.
I don't think time warner does that. I hope they don't. | [20:04] |
| jeev | http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21284471-Deep-Packet-Inspection-Plan-Defeats-Encryption-Compression
http://www.broadbandreports.com/shownews/Virgin-Media-Starts-Snooping-In-User-Packets-105670 it's what IRAN uses to own it's citizens | [20:05] |
| awyeah | Yeh. | [20:06] |
| jeev | by the way i'm a big fan of ahmadinejad lol
the "wipe israel off the map" shit is fake | [20:06] |
| awyeah | I mean, I'm okay with my ISP doing a certain amount of QoS.
That's just basic network management. | [20:07] |
| jeev | thta's not qos! | [20:07] |
| awyeah | No I know
that's horse crap. But if I ever found out they were doing something along the lines of that, even if it was under the auspices of preventing crime, I think I'd change ISPs. | [20:07] |
| jeev | so you'd use dial up? | [20:09] |
| awyeah | If it came down to that, i'd probably have to find a way around it
At that point, I'd be perfectly willing to buy a server, some rackspace, and fire up a VPN solution. Or something along those lines. Who knows. | [20:09] |
| jeev | i'll sell you one
5mbit/ 500 bux a month | [20:10] |
| awyeah | Heh. I wouldn't spend $500/month on that until it actually started happening. :)
The other option would be to get business-class internet. | [20:11] |
| jeev | heh
in ten years, we're all screwed. watch. | [20:12] |
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| mike-burns | I recommend http://bway.net/ as an ISP, if you can get 'em. They're crazy about protecting your privcy. | [20:24] |
| awyeah | Hm. | [20:26] |
| mike-burns | Might be an east-coast only thing. | [20:27] |
| awyeah | Probly.
The DSL company around here is pretty good. They're not a big one like AT&T or Verizon. | [20:33] |
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| jeev | this soviet national anthem rules. | [21:28] |
| Sue-sama | heh | [21:29] |
| jeev | why is adsl2 so expensive though
is it cause they can put a premium on 15mbit ? | [21:30] |
| Sue-sama | because the US internet infrastructure is slow
for some reason | [21:30] |
| jeev | yea but you could get uverse on vdsl
18 meg for 60 bux or something i want to know if adsl2 has a premium no it on it | [21:30] |
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