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koan has joined #arpnetworks nerdd: Is there any gotchas I should be aware of before running freebsd-update to get from 7.2 to 8.0 on my vps? up_the_irons: perhaps have some good coffee next to you bob__: lol :)
i tried it the other day on a 'real' box and something went horribly wrong up_the_irons: just make sure you have VNC and/or console server access in case you need out-of-band access nerdd: up_the_irons: Oh, heh - good you mentioned that. I'll just mail my pubkey to support ;) up_the_irons: nerdd: :) amdprophet: up_the_irons: gitosis sure is neat!
thanks for writing that article up up_the_irons: amdprophet: it's awesome
np -: nerdd loves gitosis amdprophet: being able to manage the config file using git itself is just... amazing up_the_irons: yeah, it feels so... right schmir: anyone tried http://github.com/sitaramc/gitolite? jlgaddis: heh heh
gitoris
oh, nevermind. i misread that. up_the_irons: never heard of it
in Perl, LOL
sounds interesting though
branch level access,neato schmir: yeah, would have probably tried it already if it was written in python up_the_irons: nerdd: pub key added, fire away nerdd: up_the_irons: Thanks! :) up_the_irons: np bob__: is it possible to 'expand' disk space at a later date?
the 20gb i've got will be fine for now but i'm just wondering what happens if i need more in the future :) up_the_irons: bob__: yes, it can be expanded. takes about 10 minutes of downtime bob__: ah, great :) thanks up_the_irons: np:) ***: mardraum has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
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shin has joined #arpnetworks shin: hi -: toddf hears a pin drop infrared: cricket cricket shin: I'm interested in a FreeBSD VPS, thing is I'm in Peru and I think latency might be an issue infrared: download the 100mb bin file shin: well, for SSH use mostly
bandwidth is not the issue
I've pinged arpnetworks.com and I'm getting like... let me see
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 846.781/1020.977/1141.532/74.904 ms infrared: 74? shin: yeah, lots of fluctuation infrared: i get ~89ms shin: well my question if there's some VPS host I could ssh for a couple minutes infrared: and it's fine for me shin: well you're not in Peru :P infrared: no. i'm in the US shin: yup infrared: shin: want me to create a tmp account on my vps for you? shin: infrared: that'd be awesome infrared: one sec
shin@174.136.99.66
password123 shin: cool, let's see
it's kinda slow, but it's not that bad toddf: infrared: you're extremely trusting ;-) infrared: toddf: what can he possibly do? shin: infrared: i've logged out infrared: shin: yup shin: well thanks! I think I can manage that level of responsiveness toddf: infrared: localhost DoS or worse are far more common than remote. *grin*. 'sup to you what you do.. I wouldn't, but that's just me ;-) infrared: toddf: :) it's over now anyways. i removed it toddf: *grin*
<-- uber paranoid infrared: CLEARLY!
haha shin: im paranoid too, but I'm glad infrared helped me out with this :D toddf: *grin* -: infrared wants a commision infrared: j/k shin: so, are FreeBSD VPS also kvm/qemu guests?
or do you run Xen for BSD guests? toddf: arpnetworks has some xen for old vps's they're migrating away from from what I have seen here on channel
<-- client only
kvm is the wave of the future jeev: openbsd is! toddf: ja, jeev promises to port kvm to openbsd, and we'll all be happy jeev: hey, 60 watt L5506 vs 130 watt Core i7 920..
is the power savings really worth it toddf: not when you compare to a fit-pc2.com (10W) jeev: heh
i bet openbsd uses more power than windows 7! toddf: apm -L! ***: schmir has joined #arpnetworks jeev: wonder how many fit pc2's i can stuff into a cabinet lol amdprophet: http://www.apple.com/
site is updated now
whoops...
wrong channel toddf: wonder what this A4 chip is all about amdprophet: ARM processor... not sure what's unique to it though toddf: made by apple, ARM, nice bob__: looks like a nice device toddf: what I'd love to see is iGlasses or any HUD in glasses style device .. of any flavor, even if it was only the display jeev: man i set up kvm again on my system and launched fbsd
i dont see good performance, it's annoying me toddf: I'm sure up_the_irons has some haxxorz that makes us wanna just pay him to take care of things.. jeev: no it was fine in my last installation toddf: could be as simple as running an older, more reliable, stable, and faster version of kvm/loonix jeev: i dunno what is causing this toddf: a quirk particle is stuck in your computer's frontal lobe ***: coil- is now known as scoil jeev: maybe it's openbsd toddf: loonix+kvm -> freebsd inside kvm, yeah its openbsd, uh huh jeev: it's always openbsd. ***: schmir has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection)
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blueshoes has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: toddf: for the record, all customers are off Xen. KVM all the way. I still have some Xen VMs on old hardware, for things like backups, nagios, etc... amdprophet: is nagios pretty good? up_the_irons: it does the job
not exactly the best piece of software but it gets by bob__: opsview is handy up_the_irons - it's based on nagios, but with a decent web interface
we moved to it in work recently, so far so good - and it supports clustering really easily as well toddf: I have yet to use nagios and be satisfied, sure it sends notifications if things are down, but suffers from ETOOMANYBUTTONS and seems to generate tons of nagging down messages as well as frustratingly common false positives up_the_irons: bob__: ah cool, good to know bob__: yeah, it takes a *lot* of tweaking to stop the false positives toddf: I've got zabbix in the queue to test, that it stores its info in a database instead of custom flat file memory dumps makes it seem more plausibly sane bob__: i tried that, didn't really get on with it
iirc it was too snmp-based to work with the kit we use
actually to be fair, we tried zabbix a *long* time ago, it might be a lot better now
depending on how big your networks are, netxms was quite nice (though very much based around its own client rather than a www page): http://www.netxms.org/screenshots/ toddf: zabbix has one barrier taken down for me netxms doesn't.. zabbix is in openbsd ports ;-)
jeev should get an iPad, it will take care of any iPeriod he might have up_the_irons: LOL amdprophet: toddf: LOL ***: schmir has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection)
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scoil has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) amdprophet: ballen: i'll probably be getting one, it'll be neat to show clients their websites on it instead of my macbook pro ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))