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| nerdd | Is there any gotchas I should be aware of before running freebsd-update to get from 7.2 to 8.0 on my vps? | [00:59] |
| up_the_irons | perhaps have some good coffee next to you | [01:05] |
| bob__ | lol :)
i tried it the other day on a 'real' box and something went horribly wrong | [01:05] |
| up_the_irons | just make sure you have VNC and/or console server access in case you need out-of-band access | [01:05] |
| nerdd | up_the_irons: Oh, heh - good you mentioned that. I'll just mail my pubkey to support ;) | [01:10] |
| up_the_irons | nerdd: :) | [01:10] |
| amdprophet | up_the_irons: gitosis sure is neat!
thanks for writing that article up | [01:12] |
| up_the_irons | amdprophet: it's awesome
np | [01:13] |
| nerdd | nerdd loves gitosis | [01:13] |
| amdprophet | being able to manage the config file using git itself is just... amazing | [01:13] |
| up_the_irons | yeah, it feels so... right | [01:15] |
| schmir | anyone tried http://github.com/sitaramc/gitolite? | [01:16] |
| jlgaddis | heh heh
gitoris oh, nevermind. i misread that. | [01:23] |
| up_the_irons | never heard of it
in Perl, LOL sounds interesting though branch level access,neato | [01:25] |
| schmir | yeah, would have probably tried it already if it was written in python | [01:29] |
| up_the_irons | nerdd: pub key added, fire away | [01:30] |
| nerdd | up_the_irons: Thanks! :) | [01:30] |
| up_the_irons | np | [01:31] |
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| bob__ | is it possible to 'expand' disk space at a later date?
the 20gb i've got will be fine for now but i'm just wondering what happens if i need more in the future :) | [01:53] |
| up_the_irons | bob__: yes, it can be expanded. takes about 10 minutes of downtime | [01:59] |
| bob__ | ah, great :) thanks | [02:00] |
| up_the_irons | np:) | [02:00] |
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| shin | hi | [10:50] |
| toddf | toddf hears a pin drop | [10:51] |
| infrared | cricket cricket | [10:51] |
| shin | I'm interested in a FreeBSD VPS, thing is I'm in Peru and I think latency might be an issue | [10:52] |
| infrared | download the 100mb bin file | [10:53] |
| shin | well, for SSH use mostly
bandwidth is not the issue I've pinged arpnetworks.com and I'm getting like... let me see round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 846.781/1020.977/1141.532/74.904 ms | [10:53] |
| infrared | 74? | [10:54] |
| shin | yeah, lots of fluctuation | [10:55] |
| infrared | i get ~89ms | [10:55] |
| shin | well my question if there's some VPS host I could ssh for a couple minutes | [10:55] |
| infrared | and it's fine for me | [10:55] |
| shin | well you're not in Peru :P | [10:56] |
| infrared | no. i'm in the US | [10:56] |
| shin | yup | [10:56] |
| infrared | shin: want me to create a tmp account on my vps for you? | [10:56] |
| shin | infrared: that'd be awesome | [10:56] |
| infrared | one sec
shin@174.136.99.66 password123 | [10:56] |
| shin | cool, let's see
it's kinda slow, but it's not that bad | [10:57] |
| toddf | infrared: you're extremely trusting ;-) | [10:59] |
| infrared | toddf: what can he possibly do? | [10:59] |
| shin | infrared: i've logged out | [11:00] |
| infrared | shin: yup | [11:00] |
| shin | well thanks! I think I can manage that level of responsiveness | [11:00] |
| toddf | infrared: localhost DoS or worse are far more common than remote. *grin*. 'sup to you what you do.. I wouldn't, but that's just me ;-) | [11:00] |
| infrared | toddf: :) it's over now anyways. i removed it | [11:01] |
| toddf | *grin*
<-- uber paranoid | [11:01] |
| infrared | CLEARLY!
haha | [11:01] |
| shin | im paranoid too, but I'm glad infrared helped me out with this :D | [11:01] |
| toddf | *grin* | [11:02] |
| infrared | infrared wants a commision
j/k | [11:02] |
| shin | so, are FreeBSD VPS also kvm/qemu guests?
or do you run Xen for BSD guests? | [11:02] |
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| toddf | arpnetworks has some xen for old vps's they're migrating away from from what I have seen here on channel
<-- client only kvm is the wave of the future | [11:24] |
| jeev | openbsd is! | [11:27] |
| toddf | ja, jeev promises to port kvm to openbsd, and we'll all be happy | [11:27] |
| jeev | hey, 60 watt L5506 vs 130 watt Core i7 920..
is the power savings really worth it | [11:31] |
| toddf | not when you compare to a fit-pc2.com (10W) | [11:36] |
| jeev | heh
i bet openbsd uses more power than windows 7! | [11:38] |
| toddf | apm -L! | [11:38] |
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| jeev | wonder how many fit pc2's i can stuff into a cabinet lol | [11:41] |
| amdprophet | http://www.apple.com/
site is updated now whoops... wrong channel | [11:42] |
| toddf | wonder what this A4 chip is all about | [11:46] |
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| amdprophet | ARM processor... not sure what's unique to it though | [12:01] |
| toddf | made by apple, ARM, nice | [12:01] |
| bob__ | looks like a nice device | [12:13] |
| toddf | what I'd love to see is iGlasses or any HUD in glasses style device .. of any flavor, even if it was only the display | [12:20] |
| jeev | man i set up kvm again on my system and launched fbsd
i dont see good performance, it's annoying me | [12:24] |
| toddf | I'm sure up_the_irons has some haxxorz that makes us wanna just pay him to take care of things.. | [12:25] |
| jeev | no it was fine in my last installation | [12:26] |
| toddf | could be as simple as running an older, more reliable, stable, and faster version of kvm/loonix | [12:26] |
| jeev | i dunno what is causing this | [12:26] |
| toddf | a quirk particle is stuck in your computer's frontal lobe | [12:26] |
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| jeev | maybe it's openbsd | [12:33] |
| toddf | loonix+kvm -> freebsd inside kvm, yeah its openbsd, uh huh | [12:40] |
| jeev | it's always openbsd. | [12:41] |
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| up_the_irons | toddf: for the record, all customers are off Xen. KVM all the way. I still have some Xen VMs on old hardware, for things like backups, nagios, etc... | [15:37] |
| amdprophet | is nagios pretty good? | [15:37] |
| up_the_irons | it does the job
not exactly the best piece of software but it gets by | [15:38] |
| bob__ | opsview is handy up_the_irons - it's based on nagios, but with a decent web interface
we moved to it in work recently, so far so good - and it supports clustering really easily as well | [15:40] |
| toddf | I have yet to use nagios and be satisfied, sure it sends notifications if things are down, but suffers from ETOOMANYBUTTONS and seems to generate tons of nagging down messages as well as frustratingly common false positives | [15:45] |
| up_the_irons | bob__: ah cool, good to know | [15:45] |
| bob__ | yeah, it takes a *lot* of tweaking to stop the false positives | [15:46] |
| toddf | I've got zabbix in the queue to test, that it stores its info in a database instead of custom flat file memory dumps makes it seem more plausibly sane | [15:48] |
| bob__ | i tried that, didn't really get on with it
iirc it was too snmp-based to work with the kit we use actually to be fair, we tried zabbix a *long* time ago, it might be a lot better now depending on how big your networks are, netxms was quite nice (though very much based around its own client rather than a www page): http://www.netxms.org/screenshots/ | [15:51] |
| toddf | zabbix has one barrier taken down for me netxms doesn't.. zabbix is in openbsd ports ;-)
jeev should get an iPad, it will take care of any iPeriod he might have | [15:58] |
| up_the_irons | LOL | [16:00] |
| amdprophet | toddf: LOL | [16:04] |
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| ballen | so whois getting an iPad? | [20:18] |
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| amdprophet | ballen: i'll probably be getting one, it'll be neat to show clients their websites on it instead of my macbook pro | [23:25] |
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