Is there any gotchas I should be aware of before running freebsd-update to get from 7.2 to 8.0 on my vps?
perhaps have some good coffee next to you
lol :)
i tried it the other day on a 'real' box and something went horribly wrong
just make sure you have VNC and/or console server access in case you need out-of-band access
up_the_irons: Oh, heh - good you mentioned that. I'll just mail my pubkey to support ;)
nerdd: :)
up_the_irons: gitosis sure is neat!
thanks for writing that article up
amdprophet: it's awesome
np
being able to manage the config file using git itself is just... amazing
yeah, it feels so... right
anyone tried http://github.com/sitaramc/gitolite?
heh heh
gitoris
oh, nevermind.  i misread that.
never heard of it
in Perl, LOL
sounds interesting though
branch level access,neato
yeah, would have probably tried it already if it was written in python
nerdd: pub key added, fire away
up_the_irons: Thanks! :)
np
is it possible to 'expand' disk space at a later date?
the 20gb i've got will be fine for now but i'm just wondering what happens if i need more in the future :)
bob__: yes, it can be expanded.  takes about 10 minutes of downtime
ah, great :) thanks
np:)
hi
cricket cricket
I'm interested in a FreeBSD VPS, thing is I'm in Peru and I think latency might be an issue
download the 100mb bin file
well, for SSH use mostly
bandwidth is not the issue
I've pinged arpnetworks.com and I'm getting like... let me see
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 846.781/1020.977/1141.532/74.904 ms
74?
yeah, lots of fluctuation
i get ~89ms
well my question if there's some VPS host I could ssh for a couple minutes
and it's fine for me
well you're not in Peru :P
no. i'm in the US
yup
shin: want me to create a tmp account on my vps for you?
infrared: that'd be awesome
one sec
shin@174.136.99.66
password123
cool, let's see
it's kinda slow, but it's not that bad
infrared: you're extremely trusting ;-)
toddf: what can he possibly do?
infrared: i've logged out
shin: yup
well thanks! I think I can manage that level of responsiveness
infrared: localhost DoS or worse are far more common than remote. *grin*. 'sup to you what you do.. I wouldn't, but that's just me ;-)
toddf: :) it's over now anyways. i removed it
*grin*
<-- uber paranoid
CLEARLY!
haha
im paranoid too, but I'm glad infrared helped me out with this :D
*grin*
j/k
so, are FreeBSD VPS also kvm/qemu guests?
or do you run Xen for BSD guests?
arpnetworks has some xen for old vps's they're migrating away from from what I have seen here on channel
<-- client only
kvm is the wave of the future
openbsd is!
ja, jeev promises to port kvm to openbsd, and we'll all be happy
hey, 60 watt L5506 vs 130 watt Core i7 920..
is the power savings really worth it
not when you compare to a fit-pc2.com (10W)
heh
i bet openbsd uses more power than windows 7!
apm -L!
wonder how many fit pc2's i can stuff into a cabinet lol
http://www.apple.com/
site is updated now
whoops...
wrong channel
wonder what this A4 chip is all about
ARM processor... not sure what's unique to it though
made by apple, ARM, nice
looks like a nice device
what I'd love to see is iGlasses or any HUD in glasses style device .. of any flavor, even if it was only the display
man i set up kvm again on my system and launched fbsd
i dont see good performance, it's annoying me
I'm sure up_the_irons has some haxxorz that makes us wanna just pay him to take care of things..
no it was fine in my last installation
could be as simple as running an older, more reliable, stable, and faster version of kvm/loonix
i dunno what is causing this
a quirk particle is stuck in your computer's frontal lobe
maybe it's openbsd
loonix+kvm -> freebsd inside kvm, yeah its openbsd, uh huh
it's always openbsd.
toddf: for the record, all customers are off Xen.  KVM all the way.  I still have some Xen VMs on old hardware, for things like backups, nagios, etc...
is nagios pretty good?
it does the job
not exactly the best piece of software but it gets by
opsview is handy up_the_irons - it's based on nagios, but with a decent web interface
we moved to it in work recently, so far so good - and it supports clustering really easily as well
I have yet to use nagios and be satisfied, sure it sends notifications if things are down, but suffers from ETOOMANYBUTTONS and seems to generate tons of nagging down messages as well as frustratingly common false positives
bob__: ah cool, good to know
yeah, it takes a *lot* of tweaking to stop the false positives
I've got zabbix in the queue to test, that it stores its info in a database instead of custom flat file memory dumps makes it seem more plausibly sane
i tried that, didn't really get on with it
iirc it was too snmp-based to work with the kit we use
actually to be fair, we tried zabbix a *long* time ago, it might be a lot better now
depending on how big your networks are, netxms was quite nice (though very much based around its own client rather than a www page): http://www.netxms.org/screenshots/
zabbix has one barrier taken down for me netxms doesn't.. zabbix is in openbsd ports ;-)
jeev should get an iPad, it will take care of any iPeriod he might have
LOL
toddf: LOL
so whois getting an iPad?
ballen: i'll probably be getting one, it'll be neat to show clients their websites on it instead of my macbook pro