[00:28] *** pc600 has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [00:37] *** sentabi has joined #arpnetworks [00:50] *** nerdd_ has joined #arpnetworks [00:53] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [00:53] *** nerdd has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [01:10] toddf: i took your advice, glad i didn't make it a sold out sign. i think this is pretty clean and professional: https://www.arpnetworks.com/order?product=vps&vps_special=1 [01:10] and doesn't block people from ordering, as long as they can wait [01:11] *** schmir has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [01:26] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [01:40] *** Arenlor has joined #arpnetworks [01:53] *** Arenlor has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [01:57] *** Arenlor has joined #arpnetworks [02:14] *** schmir has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [02:50] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [03:06] *** schmir has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [03:36] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [04:58] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks [05:03] *** ballen has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [05:12] up_the_irons: definately better than 'sold out' .. I'd almost suggest current order fulfillment ETA in general, 'next day' would answer the most FAQ in your normal scenario for newbies here [05:14] *** buraglio has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [05:14] *** buraglio has joined #arpnetworks [05:55] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [05:55] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [07:26] *** karlsson has left [07:36] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC () [08:39] *** jeev has quit IRC (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) [08:39] *** diatribes has quit IRC (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) [08:39] *** DaCa has quit IRC (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) [08:39] *** boogeyman has quit IRC (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) [08:39] *** diatribes has joined #arpnetworks [08:39] *** DaCa has joined #arpnetworks [08:39] *** boogeyman has joined #arpnetworks [09:22] *** jeev has joined #arpnetworks [09:41] http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=920100 [09:41] hahahahah [10:01] *** schmir has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [10:12] so random conversation from another channel forces me to ask [10:12] is getting more v6 blocks getting hard? [10:12] *snicker* I suspect not but someone claims so .. haha [10:14] are people getting greedy again with ipv6 now !??! [10:14] no [10:15] stupid v4 advocates are getting stupider [10:17] 121322 < sng> toddf: Go talk to anybody deploying v6 at a large hosting company. Getting v6 blocks is already getting hard. [10:17] 121359 < WEiRDJE> sng: i talk to these people on a daily basis .. you're full of shit [10:17] 121433 < WEiRDJE> sng: i talk to the people handing out v4 and v6 addresses .. you're still full of shit [10:18] lol [10:19] just trying to convince some people that nat is evil proves challenging at times *sigh* [10:19] heh [10:20] I am always having to debate the NAT issue on my campus [10:20] but with 3x /16s, 1x /18 and 2x /48 it is getting hard to get anything else [10:21] even though we can display use of 85% of all of the v4 [10:24] I think /48 is a typo if that is for v4 [10:25] no, that is my v6 space [10:25] technically I only have one PI /48 and one PI foor our RON [10:25] foor/for [10:25] and we have a delegated /48 from MREN [10:26] but thats only used for testing stuff [10:34] RON? [10:34] why do you have a PI /48 but not a PI /32 ? [10:35] have the rules for PI /48's releaxed any? [10:37] regional optical network [10:37] when we got th /48 for the RON we weren't technically a service provider yet [10:38] so it was easier to get a /48 [10:38] we're more of a transit provider than a service provider, but we do some of both [10:39] getting a PI /48 wasn't that bad, you just have to know how to jump through the ARIN hoops [10:40] wonder if the hoops will get re-written so small businesses that have v4 multihoming can get v6 multihoming as well in the future.. ;-) [10:40] my campus and NCSA are the conly connectors that do any IPv6 so far [10:40] *wishes* [10:41] * buraglio grins [10:41] I've been advocation for native v6 forever it seems [10:42] but that is a big concern, although I've not been in the wite collar world since the 1990s [10:42] I still have friends at places like state farm and allstate that have no concern for ipv6 [10:43] you should make friends with nokia and tmobile peoples [10:43] I would if I had the contacts [10:43] with v6 battery life is extended due to lack of nat state timeouts on firewalls and keepalives necessary to keep the state timeouts from timing out [10:44] in the world of mobile tech, this is a huge win [10:44] agreed [10:45] I was supposed to give a talk on v6 at the end of the month but I had to cancel. One of the guys also talking did some mobile v6 stuff [10:45] needless to say I was a bit disapointed [10:46] blah. still problems with my internet2 v6 announcement [10:46] I should probably do some work [10:47] ;-) [11:20] wow [11:20] up_the_irons are you in burbank now [11:20] i guess LA, are you hearing that damn thunder ? [11:42] toddf: there is now a confirmation email that is sent out upon order, noting the 24 hour turn-around. But yeah, for people who have not ordered yet, that would answer that question [11:42] jeev: thunder is crazy [11:43] "Getting v6 blocks is already getting hard." -- is that guy high? [11:45] toddf: to answer your question, it was not hard to get a IPv6 /32 from ARIN, but that was a couple years ago. And I give a /48 to anyone who orders a VPS, so *that's* pretty easy ;) [11:45] toddf: what channel is that retard in? [11:45] grr [12:30] up_the_irons: #metabug, freenode .. don't waste your valueable time, he works for an org that has a v4 /16 so has a slanted view even though _every other person on the channel_ was attempting to straighten him out [12:31] toddf: lol, i c [14:13] *** dbgi has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [14:14] *** dbgi has joined #arpnetworks [14:18] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [14:54] *** schmir has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [14:58] toddf, I got an approval for a /48 within like 12 hours of submitting the paperwork. Unfortunately couldn't convince $WORK to pay for it.. But yeah, that guy is full of shit. :) [14:59] you guys dont have ipv4 already ? [14:59] we do. but not a service provider. [14:59] oh, thought if you had ipv4 through arin, you could get free ipv6 [14:59] but maybe that's only for is [14:59] isp [15:00] I applied thinking we'd get it for free for the time being but misunderstood the requirements. [15:00] yeah. [15:00] appeal it [15:00] and ask it for free [15:01] v6 blocks are free for the moment if you have an ipv4 allocation, not an assignment (like we do). [15:01] i see [15:02] which is .. well, lame. the differentiation. but, *shrug* [15:05] if one has an ipv4 allocation .. and gets a free v6 block .. is that a grandfathered thing or is that 'will bill you in the future for future years' [15:06] toddf: it is free until the policy changes [15:07] *** coil_ has quit IRC (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) [15:07] *** mike-burns has quit IRC (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) [15:07] *** jlgaddis has quit IRC (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) [15:07] *** baklava has quit IRC (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) [15:07] *** islandfox has quit IRC (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) [15:07] *** blovett has quit IRC (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) [15:08] no chance of grandfathering the freeness like v4? [15:08] toddf: probably not [15:08] *** coil_ has joined #arpnetworks [15:09] *** blovett has joined #arpnetworks [15:09] *** islandfox has joined #arpnetworks [15:10] *** jlgaddis has joined #arpnetworks [15:11] *** baklava has joined #arpnetworks [15:11] *** mike-burns has joined #arpnetworks [15:11] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mike-burns [15:16] arin is gonna make big bucks from ipv6 [15:17] they're probably designing new office furniture [16:19] *** blovett has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [16:19] *** blovett_ has joined #arpnetworks [17:59] *** sroute has quit IRC ("WeeChat 0.3.0") [17:59] *** sroute has joined #arpnetworks [17:59] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sroute [18:42] Hey, I'm getting a really strange issue with my IRC server where it'll say I have a 600 second ping timeout. This only happens about once a day though. I don't have the problem with any other server either. [18:42] *** blovett_ is now known as blovett [18:48] *** pc500 has joined #arpnetworks [18:48] where is your server [18:48] and where are you connecting from [19:10] My server is at irc.arenhost.net and I'm connecting from PA [20:23] what time does it occur? [20:28] Around 9 EST [20:28] is that an arp ip [20:28] maybe i can connect to it [20:28] and see if it pings me out [20:46] *** visinin has joined #arpnetworks [20:55] Yes it's ARP [20:55] the network or the vm host? [20:56] Specifically 208.79.95.134 [20:58] hungry, be around later [20:59] irc and pings work fine for me to that host [21:00] oh, 9pm is nowhere near now hehe [21:00] toddf: When did you last eat? [21:00] few hours ago, why? [21:01] That'd explain the complete lack of knowledge of time. [21:01] Anyway I am /away food [21:47] toddf eats openbsd sanctioned food [21:49] *** ballen has joined #arpnetworks [21:49] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ballen [21:56] jeev: So only ramen? [21:57] Arenlor, no.. openbsd sanctioned food is private.. only he and the other awesome 31337ers of the worlds most powerful organization Gilligans Mullet know [21:59] drats [22:00] Then which group is it that only eats ramen? [22:00] ramen sounds good right now... but I don't have any :-( [22:00] maybe pasta roni will due [22:01] ballen: You should always have a store of ramen around, it's what, 50 cents or less? [22:01] yea that'd involve me going outside and its 11 at night [22:03] lame... more snow coming [22:03] it really doesn't need to snow anymore this year [22:03] WTF is this outside you're talking about? [22:04] i unno, its dark out though [22:05] Wait, you mean the big blue room? Yeah, never found the switch to turn the lights back on. [22:05] oh wtf, forecasted snow till Sat. [22:05] haha, that sucks [22:06] yes it does [22:06] especially when you live on the side of a mountain [22:06] I do. [22:08] I'm really not a fan of the idea of waking up tomorrow and going to work [22:09] especially to make it to a 9am meeting [22:11] ballen: Shoot yourself in the foot, then you won't have to! [22:12] negatory... the amount of pain that'd induce does not outweigh going to work [22:12] On an unrelated note, if anyone needs a sysadmin/perl guy, Randal Schwartz's current contract is up soon. [22:12] yea I see that [22:13] I doubt he'd want to work where I work, plus I don't know of any immediate openings [22:13] meh, just know how much it sucks to have no job and lots of bills. [22:13] yea no doubt [22:14] curious if he's ever considered Google [22:15] they typically always have CS positions open [22:15] *** baklava has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [22:15] plus with his background I'm sure he'd be a shoe in [22:15] *** baklava has joined #arpnetworks [22:17] verizon lowered their password [22:17] i mean price for unlimited [22:18] * jeev hints to up_the_irons, get rid of the iphone [22:18] so did AT&T [22:18] yea but gaytt sucks [22:18] agreed [22:18] I'd get a Nexus if I didn't already have an iPhone [22:18] even worse [22:18] actually I'd wait till it was on Verizon [22:19] the droid is nice [22:23] jeev only a geek could pull a Freudian slip like that. [22:24] *** visinin has quit IRC ("sleep") [22:26] *** blovett has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [22:31] *** blovett has joined #arpnetworks