toddf: i took your advice, glad i didn't make it a sold out sign.  i think this is pretty clean and professional: https://www.arpnetworks.com/order?product=vps&vps_special=1
and doesn't block people from ordering, as long as they can wait
up_the_irons: definately better than 'sold out' .. I'd almost suggest current order fulfillment ETA in general, 'next day' would answer the most FAQ in your normal scenario for newbies here
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=920100
hahahahah
so random conversation from another channel forces me to ask
is getting more v6 blocks getting hard?
*snicker* I suspect not but someone claims so .. haha
are people getting greedy again with ipv6 now !??!
no
stupid v4 advocates are getting stupider
121322 < sng> toddf: Go talk to anybody deploying v6 at a large hosting company. Getting v6 blocks is already getting hard.
121359 < WEiRDJE> sng: i talk to these people on a daily basis .. you're full of shit
121433 < WEiRDJE> sng: i talk to the people handing out v4 and v6 addresses .. you're still full of shit
lol
just trying to convince some people that nat is evil proves challenging at times *sigh*
heh
I am always having to debate the NAT issue on my campus
but with 3x /16s, 1x /18 and 2x /48 it is getting hard to get anything else
even though we can display use of 85% of all of the v4
I think /48 is a typo if that is for v4
no, that is my v6 space
technically I only have one PI /48 and one PI foor our RON
foor/for
and we have a delegated /48 from MREN
but thats only used for testing stuff
RON?
why do you have a PI /48 but not a PI /32 ?
have the rules for PI /48's releaxed any?
regional optical network
when we got th /48 for the RON we weren't technically a service provider yet
so it was easier to get a /48
we're more of a transit provider than a service provider, but we do some of both
getting a PI /48 wasn't that bad, you just have to know how to jump through the ARIN hoops
wonder if the hoops will get re-written so small businesses that have v4 multihoming can get v6 multihoming as well in the future.. ;-)
my campus and NCSA are the conly connectors that do any IPv6 so far
*wishes*
I've been advocation for native v6 forever it seems
but that is a big concern, although I've not been in the wite collar world since the 1990s
I still have friends at places like state farm and allstate that have no concern for ipv6
you should make friends with nokia and tmobile peoples
I would if I had the contacts
with v6 battery life is extended due to lack of nat state timeouts on firewalls and keepalives necessary to keep the state timeouts from timing out
in the world of mobile tech, this is a huge win
agreed
I was supposed to give a talk on v6 at the end of the month but I had to cancel.  One of the guys also talking did some mobile v6 stuff
needless to say I was a bit disapointed
blah.  still problems with my internet2 v6 announcement
I should probably do some work
;-)
wow
up_the_irons are you in burbank now
i guess LA, are you hearing that damn thunder ?
toddf: there is now a confirmation email that is sent out upon order, noting the 24 hour turn-around.  But yeah, for people who have not ordered yet, that would answer that question
jeev: thunder is crazy
"Getting v6 blocks is already getting hard." -- is that guy high?
toddf: to answer your question, it was not hard to get a IPv6 /32 from ARIN, but that was a couple years ago.  And I give a /48 to anyone who orders a VPS, so *that's* pretty easy ;)
toddf: what channel is that retard in?
grr
up_the_irons: #metabug, freenode .. don't waste your valueable time, he works for an org that has a v4 /16 so has a slanted view even though _every other person on the channel_ was attempting to straighten him out
toddf: lol, i c
toddf, I got an approval for a /48 within like 12 hours of submitting the paperwork. Unfortunately couldn't convince $WORK to pay for it.. But yeah, that guy is full of shit. :)
you guys dont have ipv4 already ?
we do. but not a service provider.
oh, thought if you had ipv4 through arin, you could get free ipv6
but maybe that's only for is
isp
I applied thinking we'd get it for free for the time being but misunderstood the requirements.
yeah.
appeal it
and ask it for free
v6 blocks are free for the moment if you have an ipv4 allocation, not an assignment (like we do).
i see
which is .. well, lame. the differentiation. but, *shrug*
if one has an ipv4 allocation .. and gets a free v6 block .. is that a grandfathered thing or is that 'will bill you in the future for future years'
toddf: it is free until the policy changes
no chance of grandfathering the freeness like v4?
toddf: probably not
arin is gonna make big bucks from ipv6
they're probably designing new office furniture
Hey, I'm getting a really strange issue with my IRC server where it'll say I have a 600 second ping timeout. This only happens about once a day though. I don't have the problem with any other server either.
where is your server
and where are you connecting from
My server is at irc.arenhost.net and I'm connecting from PA
what time does it occur?
Around 9 EST
is that an arp ip
maybe i can connect to it
and see if it pings me out
Yes it's ARP
the network or the vm host?
Specifically 208.79.95.134
hungry, be around later
irc and pings work fine for me to that host
oh, 9pm is nowhere near now hehe
toddf: When did you last eat?
few hours ago, why?
That'd explain the complete lack of knowledge of time.
Anyway I am /away food
toddf eats openbsd sanctioned food
jeev: So only ramen?
Arenlor, no.. openbsd sanctioned food is private.. only he and the other awesome 31337ers of the worlds most powerful organization Gilligans Mullet know
drats
Then which group is it that only eats ramen?
ramen sounds good right now... but I don't have any :-(
maybe pasta roni will due
ballen: You should always have a store of ramen around, it's what, 50 cents or less?
yea that'd involve me going outside and its 11 at night
lame... more snow coming
it really doesn't need to snow anymore this year
WTF is this outside you're talking about?
i unno, its dark out though
Wait, you mean the big blue room? Yeah, never found the switch to turn the lights back on.
oh wtf, forecasted snow till Sat.
haha, that sucks
yes it does
especially when you live on the side of a mountain
I do.
I'm really not a fan of the idea of waking up tomorrow and going to work
especially to make it to a 9am meeting
ballen: Shoot yourself in the foot, then you won't have to!
negatory... the amount of pain that'd induce does not outweigh going to work
On an unrelated note, if anyone needs a sysadmin/perl guy, Randal Schwartz's current contract is up soon.
yea I see that
I doubt he'd want to work where I work, plus I don't know of any immediate openings
meh, just know how much it sucks to have no job and lots of bills.
yea no doubt
curious if he's ever considered Google
they typically always have CS positions open
plus with his background I'm sure he'd be a shoe in
verizon lowered their password
i mean price for unlimited
so did AT&T
yea but gaytt sucks
agreed
I'd get a Nexus if I didn't already have an iPhone
even worse
actually I'd wait till it was on Verizon
the droid is nice
jeev only a geek could pull a Freudian slip like that.