[00:00] <Arenlor> "su -" followed by "rm -rf /" does tend to affect people.
[00:00] <jlgaddis> heh
[00:01] <Arenlor> I'm banned from various locations around the web for suggesting it as a solution to a problem.
[00:01] <Arenlor> Usually just issues where someone needs to chmod +x
[00:02] <jlgaddis> bofh++
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[00:02] <Arenlor> Meh, only the old BOFH
[00:03] <Arenlor> The new stuff he does less technical stuff
[00:03] <jlgaddis> guy i know used to work for simon years ago
[00:03] <Arenlor> That'd be a frightening situation
[00:08] <Arenlor> ok, I get 100GB Bandwidth a month, is there any way to know how much I've already used?
[00:08] <jeev> email support asking for mrtg
[00:09] <jlgaddis> "cd /usr/ports/net/vnstat && make install clean" too
[00:35] <pc600> ifconfig -a if you haven't rebooted recently :)
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[02:38] <toddf> pc600: depending on your os, 'ifconfig -a' may or may not show network stats
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[11:13] <Arenlor> Anyone have experience with squirrelmail?
[11:13] <jlgaddis> heh, sendmail, squirrelmail... you like doing things the hard way, huh?  =)
[11:15] <Arenlor> I have it working, the only issue I have is that I want it to use my domain name in the From field instead of the cust.arpnetworks.com one.
[11:41] <jeev> postfix and horde/imp rules
[12:31] <Arenlor> Why hasn't someone come up with a program that allows you to just tell the computer "Do what I want!"?
[12:33] <Arenlor> Does anyone know what distro up_the_irons uses for the VPS hosting?
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[12:43] <jlgaddis> some linux, dunno what
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[15:10] <up_the_irons> pc600: The $20 special applies to all OS / distros, fyi
[15:11] <up_the_irons> jlgaddis: didn't get to do the maintenance, fell asleep in one of my hibernation modes; ready to rock after 12 hours of sleep
[15:13] <up_the_irons> Arenlor: +1 on postfix.  although I do use qmail for my own stuff, very secure, reliable and fast.  however, an absolute bitch to install, which is why most people do postfix
[15:16] <up_the_irons> Arenlor: VM hosting is done with Ubuntu Jaunty
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[16:08] <jlgaddis> up_the_irons: np, wrt email
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[16:53] <up_the_irons> jlgaddis: ok tnx, noted
[16:53] <up_the_irons> cd $run
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[21:37] <pc600> can you guys host DNS for a VPS?  Or do I need to setup bind/ use something free like granitecanyon?
[22:04] <Arenlor> I have bind working for me, it's rather easy to setup
[22:05] <Arenlor> Oh hey, if anyone cares, I did manage to get sendmail+dovecot+squirrelmail+thunderbird all configured and working.
[22:06] <pc600> Yeah, disregard, I just got it set up
[22:06] <pc600> Wasn't that bad (took 15 minutes with google)
[22:06] <pc600> Was a pain thoguh, had to fine some free secondary dns server because my restrar made me put two dns servers in
[22:06] <Arenlor> pc600: dig arenhost.net
[22:07] <Arenlor> pc600: whoops meant "dig arenhost.net ns"
[22:08] <pc600> haha
[22:08] <pc600> regsitered your dn server twice
[22:08] <pc600> nice
[22:08] <Arenlor> Hey, it works
[22:08] <pc600> same ip :)
[22:08] <Arenlor> Same five ips
[22:08] <pc600> never tried it
[22:08] <pc600> there's only two dns servers on it
[22:08] <pc600> http://www.twisted4life.com/index.php <--- I used that
[22:08] <pc600> free secondary dns
[22:09] <Arenlor> I mean I figure that if my site goes down, it won't matter if both dns servers are on it.
[22:09] <pc600> anyways it works, now I justh ave to wait forever for root dns to update
[22:09] <Arenlor> what domain?
[22:09] <pc600> cainkar.com
[22:10] <pc600> I also need to find out how to move pc.chicago.il.us <-- freebie back from 1996.l
[22:10] <Arenlor> cainkar.com.		86400	IN	A	208.79.95.146
[22:10] <pc600> (back when the .us space was free and .com costs money, I took the free one) :)
[22:10] <pc600> I don't know if I can get it moved anymore, it's been sitting there since probably 199x
[22:11] <Arenlor> Do you own il.us?
[22:11] <pc600> nope, but back in the 1990s it was normal for you to contact a region manager and get a free dns out of the state.us space.
[22:12] <pc600> err, free domain.
[22:12] <pc600> Probably a bygone era and I don't use it anymore, but it stayed there all these years so I figure I can probably still fidn otu who to contact it and claim
[22:12] <Arenlor> Then the only way to move it would be to use FTP to get the files from it.
[22:13] <Arenlor> I mean, it is possible to have it redirect to you, but it's a hell.
[22:14] <pc600> Arenlor - http://www.nic.us/faqs/index.html#how_modify_locality
[22:14] <pc600> yup, it's am ess
[22:14] <pc600> I ahve to "claim" it and fax over soem crap.
[22:14] <pc600> Back when I did it, it was an e-mail form you just sent to internic if I recall
[22:15] <Arenlor> Lovely
[22:15] <pc600> I don't care, I'm just goign to drop it.  I don't and haven't used it since .coms became cheap
[22:15] <Arenlor> Well I'm hallucinating, have a good night everyone!
[22:16] <pc600> goodnight :0
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[22:21] <pc600> Ok whats' a good webmail package?
[22:21] <pc600> Something gmail-like.
[22:21] <jeev> jesus christ i cant find a can of air
[22:21] <jeev> and it's too late to turn on the compressor
[22:21] <jeev> gonna shut off this damn computer it's too loud
[22:22] <pc600> jeev - Might have more issues if a can-o-air is going to fix that :)
[22:22] <jeev> na it's dust stuck
[22:22] <pc600> jeev - I always use an old scuba tank that was given to me.  Cheap enoguh to refill, and hell cheaper than canned air.
[22:22] <pc600> No noise either :)
[22:23] <pc600> But that was in a computer shop when pcs were being cleaned every day.
[22:23] <jeev> haha
[22:23] <jeev> too much compression freaks me out
[22:24] <jeev> good night, shutting this off
[22:24] <pc600> bye
[22:24] <jeev> my computer is so damn heavy
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[22:54] <pc600> 2 hours later, apache, e-mail, dns all set up :).  Going to bed.
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