can't reach from road runner either: http://pastie.org/768558
ToastyX: yeah, i get the same
I just requested peering with VPLS / Krypt
no reason that traceroute should go through Mzima, unless they don't see my announcement (which is possible, ugh)
up_the_irons
 cr02.ldn01.pccwbtn.net (195.66.224.167)  0.884 ms  1.040 ms  0.947 ms
Sashi: thanks
hello
up_the_irons: level3->mzima from home, internet2->mzima at ${work}
reading scrollback and commenting out of context is fun sometimes heh
'wondering what it'd take to receive zfs incrementals' I'd love to just store the compressed incrementals rather than have a system that does zfs natively heh, zfs is good and all but gpl infested is not exactly the bsd cup of tea ;-)
up_the_irons: nice traceroute loop between a appliedi.net and appliedi.net
up_the_irons: you know what a looking glass is?
jlgaddis: yeah, and 80% of looking glasses are slow and suck
jlgaddis: i would much rather use a route server
telnet route-server.ip.att.net, for example
or router-server.he.net
i tend to use route server and looking glass interchangably
ok
anyone use siproxd ?
seems some sp's will have one or the other but not both
hm
if my lan ip is sending out a low port, is it possible for the wan to change the port number ?
if you're using nat
grr man
i am but i dunno why im still having one way audio
up_the_irons: you around?
Up_the_irons: suggestion on PDU, any reason to have a network accessible one?
ballen_: I pretty much use AP7930 and AP7932 exclusively
why'd you need switched PDUs?
ballen_: so i can power cycle stuff remotely
hmm, hace remove mgmt cards for that
have*
huh
up_the_irons: I am (dj_goku) I was just updating my card information since the old one wasn't working or so I thought it wasn't.
you power cycle boxes
to*
I have remove mgmt cards in my boxes
which will live on if the system is down
d^_^b: oh ok, you went through the regular form (picked a plan, etc...).  Just card updates don't require that (link in email wouldn't have asked for it)
d^_^b: thanks for clarifying
up_the_irons, also why'd you go with 120V pdus
ballen_: right, but i can't always be sure every box has remote management capabilities.  What if I need to power cycle a security camera?  A Cisco that has locked up?  etc.... none have power control
ah
yea don't have much of that issue
ballen: 120V PDUs because it is too difficult to find gear in all 208V
nahh I have all 208
or you mean like network, camera, etc gear?
ballen: in your scenario, i believe you already _know_ what will go in your cab, I can't always be sure.  hence remote power PDUs
k
just trying to figure out how people actually use switched PDU's mainly
by and far, most equipment provide no remote power capabilities
and see if it fits any use cases
yea
minus a few switches, and old hardware all my boxes can be power cycled
do you use a step down transformer or a 120V UPS?
ballen: imagine if your remote management card (in my case, SuperMicro IPMI 2.0) fails.  What do you do?  You can't do squat if you rely on it alone.  With switched PDUs, you can at least "fallback" to the older method of power cycling the actual port
yea, doubt it worth the extra cost though
at least for me
and who wants to figure out this question...
currently have a 5000VA UPS
208V
a step down transformer to 120V
4 Dell R900 servers
at 4 bars of utilization on the UPS
would moving to using a PDU and running the servers at 208V lower the UPS utilization
ballen: it is certainly worth it for me.  Imagine if the box which hosts your VPS had some failure requiring a power cycle.  I could either 1) power cycle it w/ AP7932 in 30 seconds, or 2) power cycle it in the time it takes someone to physically be there (usually an hour) ?  To me, that cost is HUUUUUUUUUUGE in terms of downtime.  Yes, please, ram me in the butt with the $700 one time fee it
costs to buy an AP7932 ;)
lol
right on
yea if something goes down off hours for me
someone looses the time I takes me to get there on computing some bio calculation
but they can be restarted
yeah, downtime simply costs less for you
yep
i'll gladly hit the Nagios "Acknowledge" button on a non-critical host that is down at 2AM and back to sleep too... ;)
*and go
but for those hosts, heh, why even get a page
an email is fine and i don't worry about it
yea
now i'll try to figure out your power question
cool thanks
if you need the specs on the Dell's let me know
i do
how many bars is 100% utilization?
5
now here's a question, Mr. I Have Everything in 208V
why didn't you just go DC power all the way?  would save 20%
didn't buy the hardware... walked in with it sitting in boxes
ballen: generally, if you _can_ run your gear at higher voltage and you have the infrastructure for it, then do it
right
don't step it down
yep
I know
again... wasn't around when the hardware was bought
trying to fix things
i think your UPS would be a little less utilized, yes, if you switch to 208V
hmm
justifying the 180 bucks for a PDU and lossing 500ish for the wasted cost the transformer
?
just looked up the R900
so wow, you have 4 of these at it is basically using 80% of your 5000VA UPS?
yep
well looking at the APC manual
what's in it, a jet engine?
4 bars = 67%
5 bars = 84%
3 = 50
yea I know
thats why I'm trying to figure out whats up with it
up_the_irons: so is my second card working?
was actually hoping to plug in a single PSU from each of my two M4000's into it
d^_^b: haven't tried yet
ballen: well, it says:
1030 W (90V - 180 VAC) - 1570W (180 - 240 VAC) hot-plug auto-sensing redundant power (1+1)
hey
grub is gay
ballen: so it is kinda on the mark
ballen: they are simply energy hogs
up_the_irons
when are you gonna have ssd vps
jeev: when someone wants to pay for it
hmm
you can charge double for space and try it as a beta
have you calculated how much expense the drives would add ?
it would be WAY more than double
have you seen SSD pricing? :)
but doesn't it save a lot of power ?
it wouldn't be substantial enough
my boxes take 2A
if it dropped down to 1A
1A is not a lot of savings in terms of raw cost
it's like 5 bux a month lol
with power conditioning cost, more like between $10 - $20 per month
oh
not bad
if you have like 5 boxes, that's like 50-100/month
easy enough to just charge double for spacing and make your money back within a few months, no ?
how many drives does it take to complete your aray ?
array
jeev: huh?  what about the actually SSD cost.  WAY f*cking higher than a SATA drive and MUCH lower capacity
jeev: 8 drives
jeev: buy me 8 500GB SSD's and I'll offer SSD VMs ;)
just use the 160gig ones
why 8
fuck it they dont last long anyway
jeev: performance
raid1 for life!
8 drives in a RAID 10 @ 7200 RPM really makes a difference
heh, i use raid0 at home
raid0 sucks!
i love raid -3
anyway, you dont know anything about anything if you dont use AP9606's
yeah, discontinued cards are ftw
i'm installing a new AP7932 tonight actually...  moar powar!
wack
testing weechat 3.0...
how is it
"/connect" and -port does not work, even though "/help connect" says it does
will need to play around more
oh blah
yeah pretty disappointing
wow
System -- Linux v4 2.6.31.10 #1 SMP Wed Jan 6 20:57:35 PST 2010 x86_64 Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 285 SE AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
oh, wait . thats freebsd
i mean linux
i was gonna say it scores the same as my arpnetworks vps hahahaha but i forgot
freebsd scores half of linux in this bench
man my client went nuts
nuts indeed