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dbgi has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) up_the_irons: for the record, yes, I changed default partition between 7.2 and 8.0. 7.2 had slices for /usr /var, etc.. 8.0 just has one whopping / slice (ad0s1a) and swap (b)
even if someone puts custom partitioning in the order form, I can't do it. Default installs come from a template. Custom partitioning would require me to actually do the install from scratch, and given there is no setup fee... not gonna do it ;) Everyone can do their own custom partitioning by performing a re-install over VNC jeev: up_the_irons, is it possible if i have a 400 gig /dev/md0 raid1 partition to create a LVM using some of it's space? up_the_irons: jeev: software raid? jeev: sure up_the_irons: i've never used software raid jeev: other than dismantling it
anyway, that's not the point
the point is it possible to create a lvm using free space in an existing Linux partition? not LVM
not a lvm partition up_the_irons: jeev: not really jeev: ok, if i have to reformat this box one more time
im gonna be pissed up_the_irons: jeev: you want part of the partition to go to lvm and not the rest? are you high? ;) jeev: maybe rather than installing with kvm over ip that's slow as shit
with pxeboot that takes forever
i should dismantle hte raid, set up lvm and copy the data over? up_the_irons: given i don't know your requirements, i'm not going to comment jeev: its a mess around box at the datcenter
datacenter RandalSchwartz: heh... sprocketnetworks just got wind of my move
now they say "oh, we offer FreeBSD VPS"
idiots... why aren't you listing that on your website? :)
do you see anythign but Linux or Windows on http://www.sprocketnetworks.com/virtual.htm
no... neither do I. :) jeev: is that mr spacely's space sprockets? RandalSchwartz: and their 60GB disk plan is $149/month
and they don't have VNC consoles
which I have now come to love jeev: RandalSchwartz, that's a lot of adult videos RandalSchwartz: I don't think their disk is raided either
so - I pointed them at the ARP page... let's see if they want to compete
here's the other thing - PING blue.stonehenge.com (209.223.236.162): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 209.223.236.162: icmp_seq=0 ttl=241 time=73.464 ms
PING red.stonehenge.com (208.79.95.2): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 208.79.95.2: icmp_seq=0 ttl=53 time=41.408 ms
blue = sprocket
red = ARP
been trying it on various local nets... red is always the winer
winner too jeev: red and blue, sounds political toddf: re-install over serial console, I prefer that one, much more secure *grin* vs re-install over vnc jeev: hmm, openbsd.. not good -: jeev hides
toddf fires the cruze missle that was not built due to darpa funds redirected to OpenBSD jeev: heh toddf: red @ okc cox cablemodem: round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev = 49.747/54.221/59.090/2.536 ms
blue @ okc cox cablemodem: round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev = 15.614/19.917/26.320/2.976 ms
not just a small difference, its nearly double the latency
sorry, more than RandalSchwartz: oh weird.
so it depends on where you're coming from then toddf: though I'm sure jeev will cringe when he realizes this was generated using openbsd through an OpenBSD/hppa firewall jlgaddis: red=75ms, blue=84ms from here toddf: but of course, each fabric of the net has its own resonance frequency that changes the song slightly depending on where you come from and where you go to RandalSchwartz: yup jeev: toddf, stop pretending you know anything about how computers, openbsd and networking works! -: jeev looks away RandalSchwartz: but anyway, let's see if sprocket wants my business bad enough
I don't think they'll have VNC console anytime soon toddf: ssh serial consolez is where it's at
no root password sniffable sounds good to me RandalSchwartz: and now that I've booted and rebooted my virtual DVD enough, I'll really miss that if I don't get it toddf: note vnc is not encrypted just yet unless you ssh port redirect it RandalSchwartz: well - yeah, that next
still haven't set that up toddf: cat $HOME/.ssh/id_rsa.pub | mail -s "randalschwartz.pub" support@arpnetworks.com
there, no excuses, cut and paste
or if you're paranoid generate a unique key just for arp
if you think you like vnc wait till you see serial
;-) up_the_irons: RandalSchwartz: did you come to love VNC consoles wrt your VPS VNC console, or do you mean VNC in general? RandalSchwartz: if I had mail on my laptop, sure
which I don't :) jlgaddis: echo "The problem is undoubtedly`nc bofh.jeffballard.us 666 | grep excuse | sed 's/Your excuse is://g'`" | mail $customer RandalSchwartz: so I stil have to to transfer the file
pbcopy <id_rsa.pub
... up_the_irons: toddf: you should pastie the traceroutes of red vs blue RandalSchwartz: there - done
"support - You've Got Mail!" toddf: some of us setup our laptops to have mta's that use port 587 or 465 to send mail out securely through a relay regardless of where we're at ;-) jlgaddis: heh, my traceroute to his .162 box goes from here to indy to atlanta to dc to ny (all over internet2) to san jose to dallas
to arp it's here to indy to atlanta to chicago to dallas to phoenix to la
fun stuff up_the_irons: RandalSchwartz: you should be able to login now toddf: http://pastebin.ca/1739579 <-- red vs blue from okc
drats, no v6, can't traceroute6 up_the_irons: route through dallas is faster than through phoenix jeev: i hate any presence in dallas
oversold trash network up_the_irons: that's actually a generalization, the reverse path will be different
i should get some pricing from Savvis though...
might be worth adding them jlgaddis: just avoid cogent whatever you do
they're cheap as hell, but there's a reason why toddf: if cogent offered me a decent fiber to my business office I'd take it, but alas nothing reasonable in okc jlgaddis: they're not that bad, as long as you're multihomed
(to someone else, not to them) toddf: all you techies move out here, its real cheap cost of living.. maybe enough IT mass might figure out a way to tap into some fiber to make some reasonable symetric data services available jlgaddis: "here"? toddf: if I want 10mbit symettric its near $3k/mo
here = oklahoma city, ok jlgaddis: we lease assloads of dark fiber for 500/mo (per 2 strands) toddf: no exchange point that I've found, which doesn't help -: toddf holds his breath for randalschwartz to proclaim 'eureka!' wrt ssh console stuffz up_the_irons: yeah i'm not about to jump on cogent
jlgaddis: where are you? what distance are you getting on the dark fiber? jlgaddis: up_the_irons: bloomington, indiana. most of it is no more than 10km, longest is 81km. up_the_irons: jlgaddis: nice ***: ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks jlgaddis: we connect into i-light (http://atlas.grnoc.iu.edu/atlas.cgi?map_name=I-Light) and go out from there
"indiana gigapop" ***: ballen|away is now known as ballen up_the_irons: interesting jeev: oh that's awesome ballen: very cool jlgaddis: there's others as well, for internet2, i2 v6, the gigapop, and some other .edu networks ballen: and you can overlay radar up_the_irons: that's a pretty damn cool visualization of bandwidth usage jlgaddis: there's some pretty neat toys
newest one (not yet public) allows customer to provision their own vlan's through their internet2 network
say you have gear in ny and seattle and need a vlan... click click click, done. jeev: crazy crazy crazy, done. up_the_irons: jlgaddis: nice jeev: i'm on my 17th pxe install of slackware cause i can't get this raid1 lvm and stuff with diff boot partition then install grub done up_the_irons: jeev: one of my admins just had that problem, standby..
jeev: clear the disklabel in fdisk first
just hit "o" (create dos disklabel), then "w" (write changes) jeev: yea actually i've done it but i've never done it with lvm up_the_irons: that'll clear any software raid crap on there jeev: but i think i get the point of it now
honestly it's just grub being gay ballen: Got a shipment of 13 SAS2 drives and the needed Dell drive caddies... and not fucking screws today
no* jeev: i need grub cause i want to use xen
damn ballen: yea
rather annoyed
ordered a 100qty box from Amazon jeev: waste of government time and money ballen: 4 bucks jeev: we need a senate hearing ballen: hah
oh and I came back to one of my chillers outside cooling tower being frozen solid
thankfully its the only room that has two chillers
so tip of the day... if you turn off all your machines for the holiday... the chiller doesn't need to turn on very often
if you have a water cooling tower
and its below freezing outside
you may have issues jeev: heh
when you bu y from amazon, do you use a government cc? ballen: I pass it off to my group office admin jeev: ah ballen: she has the cc jeev: crazy a credit card billable to CTU LA
sick
can you order me a card with my name Jack Bauer ? ballen: yea thats why not many people get one up_the_irons: jeev: it's amazing how much harder / disconnected / non-coherent some things are in Linux. I mean, installing a boot loader, why does it have to be so hard? On most *BSD's it's like "disklabel -B <device>". done and done ballen: and theres a decent amount of approval depending on how much the order is jeev: yea up_the_irons, lilo rules but not with xen
this is a non-vt capable box i'm setting xen up
just for fun jlgaddis: oh, that reminds me. i gotta order a 2821.
thanks ballen =) ballen: heh np
order me one while your at it
could use it jeev: for example, i set up lame software raid and it's resyncing even though i've formatted it ballen: although I did find a Pix 501 laying around today jlgaddis: we have some retards at one site bitching because their fiber and ds-1's (for backup) all run into a 3845
"but what if the router goes down!?" ballen: lmao jlgaddis: heh, i think i have a 501 in the bottom of my desk ballen: then your SOL, next question jlgaddis: i'm ordering the 2821 and they're paying for it, they just don't know it yet
we'll move the ds-1's over to it to shut 'em up, but it'll cost 'em =) up_the_irons: jlgaddis: that's a 2800 on your blog, no? ballen: yea not much use for one, just surprised to find Cisco gear, we were all 3COM (eww I know) now all nortel jlgaddis: up_the_irons: the header? yeah RandalSchwartz: yeah, sprocket couldn't even come close
they still insist I should have been able to tell they'd run a FreeBSD VPS for me, by looking at a page that talks only about windows and linux. :)
but no worries up_the_irons: jlgaddis: i'd have to agree w/ the client; if even their redundant links go into the same equipment, it's not very redundant.. RandalSchwartz: I gave them a chance. :)
they completely blew it off. :)
I mean seriously - http://www.sprocketnetworks.com/virtual.htm - does that imply FreeBSD anywhere? up_the_irons: jeev: my bro filled out a credit card app and put "W. Axl Rose" on it, and sure enough, he got a credit card that read "W. AXL ROSE" ;) jeev: damn up_the_irons: jeev: so go get your jack bauer card jeev: you can get paypal to send you a jack bauer card honestly jlgaddis: up_the_irons: oh they have a valid point, sure. but they have a spare sfp and card on site, so it's not a huge deal. RandalSchwartz: paypal even sent me a card with my name mispelled
they must retype it somewhere
and not just use electronic data jlgaddis: besides, we're running gigabit over the fiber, and their "backup" is only 3xT1 up_the_irons: RandalSchwartz: search for "freebsd" turns up nothing on that page jlgaddis: and those will be at 100% if/when it fails over anyway because of all the students up_the_irons: http://www.google.com/search?q=freebsd+site%3Asprocketnetworks.com&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
RandalSchwartz: ^^ looks to me FreeBSD is only an option on a dedicated server jlgaddis: damn, gotta run to work and scp the snow leopard disc image to my macbook. bbl. up_the_irons: later ***: ballen_ has joined #arpnetworks
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and i did have a 501 in the bottom of a my desk. and a 5505 on top of it too, apparently.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jlgaddis/4249935434/ ballen: hah nice jeev: hey, im trying this slack lvm, raid1 md0 xen set up one more time.. if it doesn't work, if anyone wants my liver.. i dont drink jlgaddis: i could use a new one jeev: ok i'll put you on the waiting list ***: dbgi3 is now known as dbgi RandalSchwartz: hmm. should serial console show me a login prompt?
or do I have to enable soemthign special?
it accepts my serial password
and says [Enter `^Ec?' for help]
but no login prompt
and yet, the box is up and running. ballen: press enter
? up_the_irons: yeah, press enter RandalSchwartz: I have, no response up_the_irons: RandalSchwartz: /etc/ttys is your friend RandalSchwartz: and yet, red is up and running just fine up_the_irons: uncomment the /dev/ttyu0 line
getty on serial line is not enabled by default on any FreeBSD that I know of RandalSchwartz: it's uncommented up_the_irons: nor OpenBSD
RandalSchwartz: err, i mean.. RandalSchwartz: ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup off secure up_the_irons: RandalSchwartz: turn it from "off" to "on" and set the terminal from "dialup" to "vt100" jlgaddis: serial console is enabled by default on sparc64 up_the_irons: jlgaddis: nice jlgaddis: but i imagine most users don't run into that often =) up_the_irons: right :) RandalSchwartz: and then signal something, right? jlgaddis: sighup init, at a guess up_the_irons: RandalSchwartz: yep, but what you signal, i'm not sure jlgaddis: kill -HUP 1 RandalSchwartz: well - something like that shuts the system down up_the_irons: at that point, i always had to reboot the VM anyway for some other reason, so never worried about it RandalSchwartz: kill -HUP 1 says init(8)
here goes jlgaddis: o/ up_the_irons: m/ RandalSchwartz: aha!
prompt! up_the_irons: neato RandalSchwartz: and there I am, logged in -: up_the_irons puts "kill -HUP 1" into his notes RandalSchwartz: now how does this set me up for SSH VNC?
oh - I can tunnel on this
duh up_the_irons: yup
hit 't' for instructions -: up_the_irons thinks it's "t" up_the_irons: yup, "t"
in the menu, that is RandalSchwartz: where... at teh menyu? jlgaddis: one of those "obvious" things
"t" for instructions
"j" for tar w/ bzip2 up_the_irons: RandalSchwartz: the "c" option is to interact with your VM's serial line, most often used to run a login getty; the "t" option is to tunnel VNC over SSH and it simply displays instructions on how to do it RandalSchwartz: ugh - 5555 - 5900 is... :)
ok - crap, can't type a minus sign
can't use this tunnel
PLEASE realize that VNC is traditionally 5900-5999
ports outside this range cause some UIs no end of problems
5555 for example is WRONG. flat out WRONG up_the_irons: RandalSchwartz: you can pick any port you want
RandalSchwartz: port 5555 was just the example RandalSchwartz: yeah, but its' the cut-n-paste example
put 5955 in there instead
then I can type "55" for my VNC port
which in fact, did work up_the_irons: that's fine, changed RandalSchwartz: but your choice of 61xx for VNC otherwise as also confusing. :)
for my unencoded VNC
anyway, nice to know that I now have a tunneled console, thanks
all is good up_the_irons: RandalSchwartz: 5900 - 5999 is not enough, that's only 100 users RandalSchwartz: you have more than 100 users on this box?
or is it all choked through the same IP?
for *all* customers? up_the_irons: RandalSchwartz: no, but if I think in terms of individual boxes, I can't migrate VMs very easily, because their VNC port numbers will clash
I have a "pool" of boxes and within that pool, the VNC ports do not overlap
different pools can have overlapping ports RandalSchwartz: understood -: RandalSchwartz dials down the bitching up_the_irons: LOL RandalSchwartz: so far, very happy up_the_irons: glad to hear RandalSchwartz: I might exceeed inbound bandwidth for first month
transferring crap from old box
after that, it'll settle down up_the_irons: roger RandalSchwartz: I have a very carefully crafted rsync script which *should* be getting all items of interest from old box -: jlgaddis worked out a nice backup solution jlgaddis: rsync to off-site box, doing a backup there using plain ol' tar, and a backup to s3 using tarsnap RandalSchwartz: it's 44GB of data from the old box, but I'll need to refresh any changes once or twice more before turning old box off up_the_irons: jlgaddis: i've found sending tarballs to S3 quite unreliable; it's like some get there and some just don't. i split them up at the 5G mark of course, also, but to no avail
jlgaddis: so if you do that, just keep on eye on it every now and then; make sure what you think is on there is really on there jlgaddis: i'm using colin's tarsnap. it actually goes to his servers first, once it's safely there it's transferred (by his software) to s3
and, yeah, i checked it from another box after the first full backup =)
<-- learned a looooong time ago to test backups =) RandalSchwartz: sending ZFS snapshots is my new preferred offsite backup
someone should set up a disk farm to receive those
there's a business model :)
up_the_irons? :) -: up_the_irons is on it RandalSchwartz: seriously... if you could give me a place to send ZFS incrementals that was across the country from you, I'd pay
because a ZFS snapshot is atomic
and a ZFS incremental is the minimal change up_the_irons: I have very limited experience with ZFS. What exactly does a snapshot consist of? Is there a reason you can't just sent it to S3?
when I think of business models, I try to see who can crush it. And right now, with storage, Amazon is crushing a lot of models RandalSchwartz: a zfs snapshot is an exact moment-in-time grab
it costs NOTHING to make up_the_irons: very cool RandalSchwartz: and then you can "zfs send | ssh remote zfs recv" it
but the next step is...
make a new snapshot
then send only the diffs from old to new to remote
and it understands the diffs
so you have now moved from atomic point 1 to atomic point 2 up_the_irons: ah I see
so zfs needs a way to see the old diffs also RandalSchwartz: and because it's at the FS level, it's far more efficient than rsync
yeah up_the_irons: yeah
interesting RandalSchwartz: ... http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Best_Practices_Guide up_the_irons: RandalSchwartz: so what would be the requirements? disk space (obviously), ssh shell ?, zfs on destination ?, ... -: up_the_irons puts that on the reading list RandalSchwartz: ... http://www.markround.com/archives/38-ZFS-Replication.html
yes - the disk sadly woudl be the same
you're making a clone, and keeping it up to date
but then you can also sell that service
"we have hot machine spares offsite"
or you could just say "your disk is cloned here, we can move your entire data wherever you want on a fault" up_the_irons: RandalSchwartz: so you would need a ZFS formatted fs of the same size at the backup site, along with SSH shell access? RandalSchwartz: yeah up_the_irons: anything else? RandalSchwartz: well - depends on if it's failover or just access
if it's failover, same CPUs
if it's just access, a way to push that data somewhere
you could sell two levels
I mean, I'd pay for just access
but for some business, they'd want COB level
so they'd pay for a hot spare machine up_the_irons: failover could be problematic because the IPs in Los Angeles would be different than, for example, New York, unless I get a long haul, which would get *quite* expensive. or even with newer MLPS "virtual" links between metro areas, it still is kinda expensive; although something worth looking into RandalSchwartz: well - you failover at DNS level
so you require a DNS change for switch up_the_irons: ah gotcha RandalSchwartz: not a big issue
this is catastrophe planning
not hot switching up_the_irons: roger RandalSchwartz: I want my data in Los Angeles and "somewhere else"
or
I want my data and CPU in Los Angeles and "somewhere else"
in the former, I can accept a few hours downtime
in the latter, I can accept TTL downtime :) up_the_irons: yeah
hah RandalSchwartz: make sense? up_the_irons: yup RandalSchwartz: this would be a great service for your customers
and great for the SOHOs
who need net presence, and some sense of COB
... http://www.markround.com/archives/38-ZFS-Replication.html up_the_irons: right
yeah i'm looking at that one RandalSchwartz: oh - did I paste that already :)
damn - did -: RandalSchwartz pushes the drink away jlgaddis: failover using dns == fail RandalSchwartz: jlgaddis - suggestion?
by using DNS, I say "www.stonehenge.com = 1.2.3.4 not 4.5.6.7"
and that'll take TTL to clean up jlgaddis: yes, but not that aren't costly RandalSchwartz: so for TTL, I lose hits
oh well :) -: jlgaddis nods jlgaddis: i guess if you're not losing revenue, it's not a big deal RandalSchwartz: well - that's why my TTL is 15 minutes :)
yeah - it's a trade up_the_irons: i've never really liked DNS failover, but if you can take the TTL downtime, i suppose it works RandalSchwartz: my site is a brochsure site
not a live site
and twitter was down far more often than me :) up_the_irons: and I can never trust other people's resolvers to respect my TTL RandalSchwartz: you have to trust things at some level :)
if you really want protection, buy an offsite traffic director up_the_irons: RandalSchwartz: indeed, twitter being down often and facebook getting API DoS'd has lowered everyone's expectation of uptime ;) RandalSchwartz: so traffic goes to minnesota, then LA
or minnesota, then "other place"
so yes, there are solutions jlgaddis: we have a hot site several hundred miles away RandalSchwartz: or even better... yes, www.stonehenge.com points to second site, which mostly proxies to first site
until first site goes dow
then it takes over primary
the nice thing about zfs snaps is they're very very cheap to make and send up_the_irons: RandalSchwartz: i presume that something like MySQL, on top of ZFS, would not necessarily "snapshot" well since it could be in the middle of a transaction; in that case, could a better practice be to replicate MySQL some other way, or possibly not even use MySQL at all (ala the popularity of distributed KV data stores now) RandalSchwartz: I've heard people sending them in tight loops
"make snapshot" "send it" "make snapshot" "send it"
up_the_irons - NO
that's precisely the cool point of zfs snaps
it's ATOMIC
it can reproduce the disk PRECISELY midstream
so if mysql can handle a random reboot, then it can handle the snapshot restart
if it can't, stop using mysql
I know postgresql uses WALs, and does this just fine
as in, the current transaction will likely fail
but everythign committed up to that is done up_the_irons: RandalSchwartz: yeah, i don't know what mysql does if it is in the middle of a transaction and it gets rebooted; i assume the transaction simply is never committed RandalSchwartz: ZFS snapshots are *atomic*
and this makes them far better than rsync replication
bytes are either THIS WAY or THAT WAY
nothing in between up_the_irons: right RandalSchwartz: zfs create -r zpool@now
that makes snapshots in *all* filesystems at NOW up_the_irons: man, i'm gonna have to play around with some of this stuff, sounds exciting RandalSchwartz: completely atomic
zfs rename zpool@now then
zfs create -r zpool@now
now I have two snapshots that I can increimtanlly send
zfs send -i then zpool@now | ssh remote zpool recv
and now I've send the differences over the wire
and atomic updates all around
repeat as needed
even in a tight loop
it's pretty exciting up_the_irons: wow, interesting RandalSchwartz: yeah - so the ability to *cheaply* clone a disk over the wire has gotten far better thanks to zfs
so for people wanting geography backups, this is *the* solution now
presuming they're willing to use ZFS
can you see why I wanted to boot from ZFS now ? up_the_irons: yeah, ZFS is the only dependency (albeit a big one for some)
i do! nichangel: Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
zroot 2.3T 529M 2.3T 0% /
:D RandalSchwartz: nice up_the_irons: i should make a ZFS-enabled default VM and people can order it. Basically it would be the default install w/ ZFS instead of UFS nichangel: I cheated a little, USB key for /boot RandalSchwartz: Yeah - the instructions on that page worked
once I followed them to the letter
I'd be available to talk to your clients
I'm happy to share what I know
in fact, I snapshotted @INSTALL right after building my machine
so I could zfs-send you my install :)
but it's only really about a half hour to follow the instructions
just set the root password to "changeme" and the timezone to PST :)
then snapshot that
the rest is completely generic up_the_irons: LOL
RandalSchwartz: which instructions page? I remember a few being pasted here RandalSchwartz: uno momento, por favor
... http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot
that's the instructions
worked perfectly once I followed them exactl'
y
my failures were because I skipped a step, or tried to add "zfs export" to the end
so I'd say follow those instructions, setting "changeme" for root pw and "PST" for timezone ballen: why was zfs export of any importance ? RandalSchwartz: and then snapshot that for new installs
ballen - I thought "zfs export" was like "unmount"
turns out ists more than that ballen: hah, ah
yea not quite unmount at all RandalSchwartz: so when I stopped doing that, then reboot saw the disks as "attached here"
which is what it is neede ballen: ah
nice RandalSchwartz: export means "the disks are going somewhere else" up_the_irons: ah RandalSchwartz: which is why boot said "no zfs to do here"
so follow those instructions EXACTLY
unfortunately, you'll need to do those nce per disk size
since the FS is built each time
as in - you'll have a 120GB-ZFS
and a 60GB-ZFS
etc up_the_irons: gotcha
cd $HOME RandalSchwartz: bye up_the_irons: RandalSchwartz: thanks for all the info, I'm going to play around with it RandalSchwartz: "cd" => "cd $HOME" up_the_irons: cd ~ RandalSchwartz: again
redundant :)
"cd" up_the_irons: true
but just saying RandalSchwartz: true => : :) up_the_irons: cd
is a little confusing RandalSchwartz: if :; then echo yes; else echo no; fi up_the_irons: interesting RandalSchwartz: go home sir up_the_irons: cd RandalSchwartz: I'm in LA next week
we should meet up_the_irons: :)
let me know about where you'll be; we can grab lunch around Burbank ***: visinin has joined #arpnetworks RandalSchwartz: Wokacno!
Wokcano up_the_irons: LOL
sure RandalSchwartz: across the street from my $DAYJOB up_the_irons: green dragon roll, mmmmMMMm RandalSchwartz: spicy plate :)
I'm at the holiday inn kittycorner from there up_the_irons: i'll be on later, cd $HOME, for real RandalSchwartz: my walk to work is half block
bye! ***: ziyourenxiang has quit IRC () -: toddf wonders what it'd take to receive zfs incrementals ballen: zfs receive
piped over ssh
zfs send -> ssh -> zfs receive toddf: up_the_irons: long haul? just do the same trick dns servers do, advertise the same address multiple locations... ballen: anycast? Sashi: anyone in Canada? ***: ballen is now known as ballen|away
ballen|away is now known as ballen jeev: cd'ing to a variable is pretty funny ***: ballen is now known as ballen|away up_the_irons: toddf: anycast? oh please no
can I get some traceroutes on 174.136.96.2
pastie them
new block I set up a week ago, not completely reachable yet, and I need to know who it fails for
can't reach it from Time Warner / RR (big surprise), but works from Slicehost jeev: goes hrough
through from krypt up_the_irons: jeev: pastie.org it :) jeev: 2 VLAN3810.BR1.LAX3.VPLS.NET (67.198.200.61) 5.200 ms 0.698 ms 0.557 ms
3 VLAN2099.BR2.LAX2.VPLS.NET (67.198.200.17) 0.384 ms 0.316 ms 0.314 ms
4 mzima.net.any2ix.coresite.com (206.223.143.2) 4.559 ms 5.067 ms 0.452 ms
5 ge0-arpnet.cust.lax07.mzima.net (67.199.135.102) 1.551 ms 1.604 ms 1.817 ms
6 174.136.96.2 (174.136.96.2) 0.697 ms 0.752 ms 0.587 ms
:> up_the_irons: oh u whore jeev: too lazy to open browser
i have 40 open already up_the_irons: thanks jeev: jesus man i cant get this system going
i'm gonna try it with crypt, whatever
gonna try two more damn things
trace through att uverse is gay
as usual up_the_irons: i c