[00:00] pretty much [00:07] *** anthis has joined #arpnetworks [00:26] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks [02:10] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC () [02:40] *** blawl has joined #arpnetworks [02:59] *** weed has joined #arpnetworks [03:14] [03:27] *** weed has left [03:53] islandfox: let me know if you blocked icmp; my nagios can't ping your host but from VNC it appears up (SSH too) [03:54] islandfox: put a hole in for 208.79.88.56 [03:55] up_the_irons: I didn't mean to, let me fix that, thanks [03:55] islandfox: np [03:56] up_the_irons: should be fixed [03:56] islandfox: yup! [03:56] tnx [04:55] *** Nat_UB has quit IRC (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) [05:13] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks [07:15] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [07:15] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [07:22] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC () [07:44] *** Arenlor has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [10:02] w00t [10:12] heh someone launched a tactical nuke in modern warfare 2, kills everyone.. but if you launch an EMP, it only disables the enemy electronics [10:12] somethings wrong with that game [10:13] *** packetshaper has joined #arpnetworks [10:21] packetshaper [10:24] I've tried following the instructions for freebsd "rootonzfs" on vmware locally... still no good [10:24] so tehre's something missing in the instructions. :( [10:25] this is frustrating [10:25] I really need to be starting to move things over. :( [11:56] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [12:16] RandalSchwartz: Is it vital that everything is ZFS? [12:24] *** schmir has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [12:32] RandalSchwartz: what failure are you seeing, and which configuration are you trying to use? [12:33] I'm following precisely the instructions on --- [12:33] ... http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot [12:33] and everything steps through properly, but when I reboot, it says "can't find a ZFS Pool" [12:34] made harder by the fact that I have to hit F12 immediately after VNCing in... a button shuffle I don't always manage [12:34] as in, hard shutown (ok) [12:34] boot (ok) [12:35] repeatedly try connect "no" "connect" "no" "connected!" [12:35] and then I have to hit FN-F12. :) [12:35] it's a good thing I have two hands now, not one [12:37] RandalSchwartz: oh, I doubt I can help you with that setup... I tried that one initially wihout luck as well, with the same failure if I remember right [12:38] RandalSchwartz: unless you *really* need to boot directly from ZFS, I'd suggest this setup: http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSOnRoot [12:39] does that still eventually put / as ZFS? [12:40] yes, / is still fully zfs there [12:40] well, that'll work then [12:40] you just have /boot as ufs [12:40] Lemme try it with vmware first [12:41] actually, looks like that was updated as - http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/UFSBoot [12:41] that has more explicit commands [12:43] ah yeah, that looks like it should work with less adjustment... I forgot about the gpart swith [12:44] I would suggest adjusting that config to put the root fs as a separate tank/root or such rather than tank directly, for easier management later [12:44] where do those magic numbers come from? [12:44] gpart add -i 2 -b 2097152 -s 8380827 -t freebsd-swap ad0s3 [12:44] -i is the partition index [12:44] -s is the partition size [12:44] how do I compute the size? [12:44] with gpt, I just said "use the rest of the disk" [12:44] -b is the offset [12:46] I think it'll auto-compute those [12:46] looks like I have to type those in [12:46] it's on a commandline [12:46] but are those numbers correct for *my* disk? [12:46] I know I didn't have to specify the offsets, I don't remember the size [12:46] I doubt it [12:47] ugh - so many things I never have to worry about in OSX :) [12:48] for the first part, on a clean disk, you should be able to just: gpart create -s mbr ad0 && gpart add -t freebsd md0 [12:49] that last part is "md0"? [12:49] err ad0 [12:49] is that the name for the freebsd part? [12:49] oh [12:49] I'm testing it here on a md device [12:52] gpart create -s bsd ad0s1 [12:52] gpart add -s 1G -t freebsd-ufs ad0s1 [12:52] gpart add -s 2G -t freebsd-swap ad0s1 [12:52] gpar add -t freebsd-zfs ad0s1 [12:52] gpart* [12:53] should do it [12:53] subsitute ad0s3 for ad0s1 in the rest of the tutorial [12:54] starting with gpart create -s mbr ad0 ? [12:54] I'm not sure why gpart directions always make the partitioning so difficult... [12:54] yes, on a clean disk [12:55] if you've been messing with it, probably want to zero the first part first to remove any artifacts [12:57] ok - I'll give that a whirl [12:57] first with vmware to see something work [13:03] *** Arenlor has joined #arpnetworks [13:04] gpart create -s bsd ad0s1 doesn't work [13:04] oh - I need the gpart -t line before that? [13:05] RandalSchwartz: So have a headache yet? [13:06] RandalSchwartz: the "gpart add -t freebsd ad0" creates ad0s1, if that's what you mean [13:06] I don't get headaches [13:06] I just get frustrated. :) [13:07] I've done my share of yelling this morning already [13:08] oksushi, disk geometry looks good [13:09] oops... just "ok" there. damn autocomplete [13:09] I don't see an oksushi in the room ^_^ [13:12] is /dev/ad0s1d the 4th partition of ad0s1? [13:12] as in, are the letters sequential? [13:13] ad0 is disc and s1 is slice right? [13:13] are you asking me? [13:13] because I'm asking. :) [13:13] yea [13:13] ad0 = 0 disk i guess [13:14] Well I know that BSD does disk and slices, partitions are what I'm used to with Linux ^_^, trying to learn [13:14] so if gpart show has "2" for the thing I want, then I use "b" [13:14] s x = the slice [13:14] ad0 is the disk, ad0s1 is the dos partition on the disk, ad0s1[abd] are the bsd partitions within the dos partition [13:14] ad0s1, item 2 [13:14] yea [13:14] "b" = 2? [13:14] gpart show ad0s1 [13:14] fdisk -l and see [13:15] RandalSchwartz: http://z.about.com/d/linux/1/0/H/1/screen_disk_label.jpg [13:15] C I think is reserved [13:15] looks like a will be 1, b 2, and d 4 [13:15] c is reserved for the whole device [13:15] well, I just have 1 and 2 [13:15] gpart shows 1 and 2 [13:16] did you do the freebsd-zfs one? [13:16] I want swap on ZFS [13:16] since I don't care about dumps [13:16] and I might want to resize it [13:17] that could be dangerous, it was in the past known to be unreliable, and as far as I can tell, was never fixed [13:17] Swap is kept on b it would seem? [13:18] if you really want to, you should probably delete the freebsd-zfs partition, and add it back with index 4, as 2/b is traditionally swap [13:18] though it should still work either way [13:21] well - I'm just trying to get proof of concept going too [13:22] so for example, I'm making one big disk, instead of all the pieces [13:22] because it takes too long to type all those commands. :) [13:22] what pieces? [13:22] zroot/var, zroot/var/crash, zroot/db, zroot/db/pkg [13:23] takes forever to type all those [13:23] just to get different attributes for different parts [13:23] the install.sh creates all the right dirs anyway [13:23] yeah, I wouldn't do that anyway, most tutorials seem to like to overcomplicate things just to show off zfs... [13:24] islandfox: Ever read a linux tutorial? [13:24] Arenlor: not really [13:24] Linux tutorials are why extended partitons were created. [13:24] You apparentally need to create a partiton for every file you will ever have. [13:25] ah, heh [13:26] *** Arenlor has left [13:26] *** Arenlor has joined #arpnetworks [13:29] uh oh. step failed [13:29] cd /zroot [13:29] mv boot bootdir/ [13:29] oh - exec failed [13:30] maybe needs LD_LIBRARY_PATH alrady [13:30] oh weird, there's no /bin/cp [13:31] now I have to figure out how to fix the steps [13:31] crap [13:32] Wow. [13:33] yeah /zroot/bootdir is still mounted [13:33] so that's a cross device move [13:33] which needs a cp to work [13:33] unless that was supposed to be unmounted at some point [13:33] nope [13:34] crap - foiled again [13:34] Wait, I seem remember a story about long ago when a tape drive crashed and they had to rebuild cp and the other tools in hex. [13:34] * RandalSchwartz throws hands up in the air [13:34] let me start up a VM here so I can follow along... [13:35] run through all the steps... notice the step mounting /zroot/bootdir early, and then trying to "mv" into that from outside that later [13:35] the question is, should I unmount it, or should I cp the data in? [13:36] which view of /zroot/bootdir is needed? [13:36] it should be the ufs bootdir, I believe [13:37] I think this is the tricky part which I skipped, since I didn't install from release media [13:38] well - I'm stuck here, unless you can point me at relevant manpages, or try to understand the author's intent and patch it [13:40] yeah, I'm getting a VM running here, I'll run through it and try to see what's going on [13:41] it'll be a bit because I have to do it on a remote machine [13:42] ok [13:56] *** packetshaper has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [13:56] *** packetshaper has joined #arpnetworks [13:57] *** Arenlor has quit IRC ("working") [14:29] RandalSchwartz: ok I think I see what's going on [14:30] RandalSchwartz: in the :Move /zroot/boot into /zroot/bootdir" section [14:30] RandalSchwartz: instead of the mv, try cd /zroot; tar cf - boot | tar xf - -C bootdir [14:32] (then either mv boot out of the way, or delete it) [14:34] I suspect that's all you need to change, if not, I'm saving the whole setup I'm doing, and can post it somewhere [14:36] also you need to do a umount /zroot/bootdir before the zfs umount -a as well [14:42] RandalSchwartz: for reference, what I did (assuming no typos in copying) is here: http://islandfox.net/~pete/zfs.txt [14:42] which I just sucessfully booted into [14:45] (I had to skip around a bit while figuring things out, and haven't re-followed that 100% from scratch) [14:45] I've got to go for a while, but please let me know how it turns out [14:46] also I would suggest upgrading to the latest 8-stable after getting the install done to pick up the recent zfs fixes [14:53] thanks [15:09] YEAY! success in vmware with GPT ZFS [15:09] the trick was that I was doing "zpool export" [15:09] because I wanted to tidy up before a reboot [15:09] but that broke the cache :) [15:10] now to try this with my VPS [15:44] *** Nat_UB has joined #arpnetworks [15:46] *** heavysixer has quit IRC () [16:09] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [16:09] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [16:33] *** anthis is now known as spits [16:33] *** spits is now known as anthis [16:43] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks [16:45] *** blawl has quit IRC ("server failure :O") [16:49] *** Arenlor has joined #arpnetworks [16:50] oops... shoudl I have not set em0 to DHCP? [16:51] on your vps? no [16:52] do you know where the settings go in FreeBSD? [16:52] I'm logged in through the VNC [16:52] /etc/rc.conf [16:53] ifconfig_em0= ... [16:53] ifconfig_em0="inet x.x.x.x netmask 255.255.255.252", iirc [16:53] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC () [16:53] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks [16:54] or .250 in my case [16:54] err .240 [16:54] and where do I put the default route and DNS [16:54] yeah, adjust as needed =) [16:54] defaultrouter="x.x.x.x" [16:54] dns in resolv.conf [16:54] Can anyone help me get DNS setup, if I get it working with just the one domain I can get it to work with the others. [16:54] thanks [16:55] np [16:55] bind arenlor? [16:55] I can ping my default router [16:55] this is a good sing [16:55] jlgaddis: Yes, bind9 on debian. [16:55] *** baklava has quit IRC (Nick collision from services.) [16:55] I have it to the point that the server itself recognizes the domain and will talk with it. [16:55] *** baklava- has joined #arpnetworks [16:56] ooh, and I can ping my old box :) [16:56] not sure if i remember debian's way of doing it, recently retired my last debian box running named [16:56] Arenlor: that's the hard part :P [16:57] Now the big step, how do I get the world to recognize the domain and go to it ^_^' [16:57] arenlor: you have to delegate the domain to your name server from your registrar [16:57] go to your domain registrar and change the authoritative dns servers to point to you [16:57] you'll need two [16:58] * Arenlor isn't sure what to set them to [16:58] the ip's of your dns servers [16:58] the ones running bind [16:58] there we go. traceroute works [16:58] you need to register name servers before you can point a domain to them [16:58] names and everything [16:59] Ok so figuring out how to register them is my next step then, thanks ^_^ [16:59] like if you want ns1.example.net and ns2.example.net, you will have to register ns1.example.net and ns2.example.net to point to your name server IP addresses [16:59] *** NappyYewHears has quit IRC ("http://znc.in") [16:59] then you can set a domain to use ns1.example.net and ns2.example.net [16:59] I guess sshd doesn't come up by default? [17:00] RandalSchwartz: echo 'sshd_enable="YES"' >> /etc/rc.conf [17:00] randalschwartz: rc.conf contains the stuff that starts up... defaults are in /etc/defaults/rc.conf [17:00] RandalSchwartz: not much does, by default [17:00] thanks - sorta like openbsd then [17:00] RandalSchwartz: take a look at /etc/defaults/rc.conf, then "override" those settings in /etc/rc.conf [17:00] *** coil has joined #arpnetworks [17:00] *** coil is now known as Guest57659 [17:00] wonderful thanks [17:01] can I start ssh after the fact right now? [17:01] something to do with /etc/rc.d ? [17:04] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC () [17:04] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks [17:04] man, people are fucking idiots. some fucknut walking his dog just got a shotgun pulled on him. [17:04] thats fucked up [17:04] walking down the sidewalk and shined his flashlight in my front window [17:04] Wait, you're the one who pulled the shotgun on him? [17:05] since the neighbor's got broken into about two weeks ago, i grabbed the remington and yanked the front door open and ordered him to the ground. [17:05] RandalSchwartz: probably can just do "/usr/sbin/sshd", i think [17:06] RandalSchwartz: whatever "sshd_program" is in /etc/defaults/rc.conf, along with "sshd_flags" (empty by default) [17:09] *** synapze has joined #arpnetworks [17:10] up_the_irons: you around? [17:10] *** Guest57659 has quit IRC (Excess Flood) [17:10] RandalSchwartz: /etc/rc.d/sshd start [17:11] yeay - logged in via ssh [17:11] RandalSchwartz: what zfs setup did you end up with? [17:11] you'll never believe it :) [17:11] ... http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot [17:12] but I was "tidying up" at the end by "zpool export" [17:12] and that was, in fact, corrupting the zfs [17:12] dammit - I was taught never to reboot with stuff still attache.d :) [17:12] and as long as I could type zfs list and see things, I was worried :) [17:12] ah, cool [17:12] *** coil has joined #arpnetworks [17:13] *** coil is now known as Guest68975 [17:13] I hope it works for you, that setup scared me off reading about the gptzfsboot loader problems... [17:13] 117GB free. :) [17:14] zroot 117959040 275712 117683328 0% / [17:14] what's the "update the ports" command? [17:15] I prefer portsnap+portupgrade personally, though there are several solutions [17:15] yeah - portsnap [17:15] comes by default [17:15] * jlgaddis looks over at the llama book [17:15] thought your name sounded familiar [17:16] just portsnap fetch? [17:16] looks like it's grabbing 60MB of something :) [17:16] portsnap fetch install or portsnap fetch update [17:16] portsnap fetch extract the first time [17:16] first time, rm -rf /usr/ports && portsnap fetch extract [17:16] after that, portsnap fetch update [17:16] unless you're installing from source, you should also do freebsd-update [17:17] yeah - it's that perl guy [17:17] and floss weekly guy [17:17] http://arenhost.net/ That work for you? [17:17] first order of business - build emacs :) [17:17] Arenlor: yep [17:18] I can sorta work vi, but not very well [17:18] oh wait, before that, screen [17:18] Awesome, it's working somewhat then, need to debug apache it seems, but other than that sweet. [17:19] arenhost.net has address 208.79.95.130 [17:20] jlgaddis: Yes, but go to that IP and you'll see what I expected to show up. [17:20] yeah, i did [17:20] empty directory index [17:20] with an informative apache banner [17:21] portsnap extract seems to be working [17:22] Heh spent too much time working on this already today, taking a short break. [17:22] oh cool. this zfs has .zfs/snapshot working :) [17:22] the OSX version didn't [17:22] so this is pretty close to the one on opensolaris [17:25] *** Guest68975 has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) [17:28] what is "vulnerability check disabled database not found" [17:28] *** packetshaper has quit IRC () [17:28] since you don't have portaudit set up, I think [17:28] portaudit is not installed or the database isn't [17:28] randalschwartz: portaudit -Fda [17:35] ahh, probably need to install portaudit then [17:35] eww. every time I say "make install" on a port, I get an ugly config [17:35] is there someway to say "go ahead and always use the defaults"? [17:35] make BATCH=yes install clean [17:35] aha [17:35] thanks [17:36] I suspect the options screen times out though [17:36] and it's nice that it works inside real screen :) [17:36] Yeah, this is gonna take the better part of a few days to get this to work [17:36] good thing I have plenty of other things to keep me busy *too* :) [17:38] oooh. building perl [17:38] this looks familiar [17:38] *** Guest63877 has joined #arpnetworks [17:38] that's odd. Perl comes with openbsd, because the packaging system uses it [17:39] it used to be in freebsd base, but was removed (with much pain, apparently) quite a while ago [17:39] I don't blame them [17:49] *** Guest63877 has quit IRC (Excess Flood) [17:50] Why do I need the www in the ServerName on apache? [17:50] wow - and now we're installing ruby [17:50] you don't [17:50] you can make the basename with or without www [17:50] you just have to be consistent [17:50] and put the other one as an alias [17:52] I had it as "ServerName arenhost.net" and it wouldn't load the index, changed it to "ServerName www.arenhost.net" [17:52] *** ballen has joined #arpnetworks [17:52] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ballen [17:52] there's somethign else at play then [17:52] it really doesn't care about that name [17:52] unless something else epends on it [17:53] if dns is set up properly, it should work [17:53] well foo [17:53] i use ServerName domain.com and ServerAlias www.domain.com [17:56] Even more foo, both www.arenhost.net and arenhost.net are working properly. [17:59] *** ballen_ has joined #arpnetworks [17:59] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ballen_ [17:59] *** ballen_ has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [18:33] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC () [18:37] *** coil has joined #arpnetworks [18:37] *** coil is now known as Guest28736 [18:45] *** ballen is now known as ballen|away [18:46] wow, just got an order from Iceland (the first). I've never seen so much unicode in my order form... ;) [18:46] up_the_irons: my box was turned off cuz i was ddos'd last night [18:46] how do i go about upgrading my vps? [18:46] synapze: i was just going to email you about that [18:46] and how much will it cost? [18:46] its bs [18:47] see your email in a few [18:47] i found out who did it, i pulled his dox [18:47] do you guys prosecute ddos attacks? [18:47] i have the ddos log on my vps also [18:47] as well as irc logs of him threatening/talking about it [18:48] ok re: email [18:48] *** Guest28736 has quit IRC (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) [18:50] synapze: i'm not in law enforcement, i can't prosecute anything. i'm not sure my local fbi field office will care, i'm small time. DDoS twitter and facebook, they might care about that.. [18:50] up_the_irons: you have local ntp servers? [18:51] up_the_irons: well im in the process of fwd'ing the info to the authorities [18:51] this guy ddos's more than just your network :\ [18:52] jlgaddis: no [18:52] up_the_irons: i was also curious, why does one of your servers send udp packets to port 0? [18:53] speaking of [18:53] anthis is the one ddos'ing your network [18:53] in here [18:53] :\ [18:53] synapze: dunno, which server is sending packets to port 0? [18:53] cant remember the host name would have to check logs [18:54] it was lots of packets right before my vps/ssh session died [18:54] something.arpnetworks.com [18:54] synapze: yeah, i know anthis did it [18:55] oic [18:56] are you srs? [18:56] its not my fault that happened [18:56] at least let me ge the logs off my vps [18:57] and i think you and anthis need to work out your differences elsewhere; it is not fair to everyone else [18:57] this doenst even involve me [18:57] he was targeting a user on my vps [18:57] and i happened to be the box he was on [18:57] who is on your vps is not my concern, it is _yours_; anything that happens to it is your responsibility [18:58] anthis: have fun when the feds knock on your door [18:58] wow, so much for running my website [18:58] up_the_irons: its not my fault what some lame ddos kiddie does either [18:58] i cant control the actions of others [18:59] can we compromise and i remove that user from my vps? [18:59] i put tons of work into that vps [18:59] I really like the fact that I allow IRC services on my network, but when shit like this happens, I can really see why most networks don't allow. I use IRC for legitimate purposes, and lots of others do as well; but when guys who run bots and offer shell accounts and cause trouble, that really chaps me off [19:00] i gave a shell to a few of my close trusted friends [19:00] you can even look at my passwd file [19:00] synapze: you can't control the actions of others? of course not, do you know what "responsibility" means? It is _not_ your fault, but it *is* your responsibility [19:01] can we compromise and i remove the user that anthis was targeting and get my vps back? [19:01] synapze: nope [19:02] so im responsible for the actoins of others? [19:02] i see your logic [19:03] synapze: you know how much that DoS cost me in time and energy, and how many people it affected, many of them in this very channel? I could charge you managed services fees ($250 / mo) and I'd still not make up my loss [19:03] anthis made more threats didnt he? [19:03] thats why ure not giving my vps back [19:03] thats the only reason he would be in here [19:03] you caused trouble, that is why your vps was cancelled [19:03] so the ddos kiddie gets his way and a legitimate customer gets fucked [19:03] nice huh [19:04] i didnt cause trouble [19:04] anthis did [19:04] i set up that vps so i could host an affiliate site for an e-cig company [19:04] yup, true, what do you want me to do? I have a business to run [19:04] nice how there is no good way to stop UDP floods; let's complain to the IETF [19:05] anyway, synapze + anthis: settle your differences elsewhere [19:05] *** coil has joined #arpnetworks [19:05] I have work to do [19:06] anthis: now im really making sure you get yours [19:06] *** coil is now known as Guest89795 [19:06] thanks for fucking up my vps permanently [19:06] *** up_the_irons sets mode: +b %synapze!*@* [19:07] *** up_the_irons sets mode: +b %anthis!*@* [19:07] fuck me [19:07] whoever mentioned +q the other day, THANK YOU [19:07] :) [19:07] *** ballen|away is now known as ballen [19:07] _now_ i have work to do [19:07] *** synapze has left [19:16] *** Arenlore has joined #arpnetworks [19:17] *** Arenlor has quit IRC (Nick collision from services.) [19:17] *** Arenlore is now known as Arenlor [19:17] Does arenhost.info and arenhost.net look the same to anyone? [19:18] Arenlor: they look identical to me in a browser [19:20] *** Guest89795 has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [19:22] up_the_irons: That's what I thought, don't know why but my computer has the wrong IP stuck in it. Tried flushing DNS and everything, and I use OpenDNS and it has the right IP. [19:23] Arenlor: what OS you run? [19:23] Actually just tried it on a separate computer and it gives the same issue. [19:24] dns cacher somewhere [19:24] Which is not cool. [19:27] Especially given that I run OpenDNS and have DD-WRT on my router to try to prevent issues like this. [19:27] using dnsmasq or whatever on dd-wrt? [19:27] it's probably caching it [19:28] Had thought it was disabled. [19:29] 22:07 <@up_the_irons> whoever mentioned +q the other day, THANK YOU [19:29] 22:07 <@up_the_irons> :) [19:29] Whoops. [19:29] Stupid middle click. [19:29] +q is yummy. [19:34] *** Arenlor has quit IRC () [19:37] *** ballen is now known as ballen|away [19:44] *** scort has joined #arpnetworks [19:44] *** scort is now known as Guest25742 [19:46] *** Guest25742 is now known as scort [19:51] *** ballen|away has quit IRC ("Leaving...") [20:07] *** Guest61031 has joined #arpnetworks [20:17] *** Guest61031 has quit IRC () [21:03] *** nakano is now known as nakano_ [21:21] *** synapze has joined #arpnetworks [21:22] *** synapze has left [22:06] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks [22:46] what is +q ? [22:46] quiet [22:46] quiet on what? [22:47] huh [22:47] it quiets them [22:47] theyre mute pretty much in the channel [22:48] I guess I don't need to kno [22:48] eh [22:48] if they set +q mode on you [22:48] you can't talk in here [22:48] if it's set in here. [22:48] ... (mhoran:#arpnetworks) 22:07 <@up_the_irons> whoever mentioned +q the other day, - THANK YOU [22:48] +q = mode [22:48] are you talking about +q being set hhere? [22:48] yes [22:48]