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| Arenlor | Hello all | [07:44] |
| ballen | hi | [07:44] |
| Arenlor | up_the_irons: Just wondering, did my order go through? | [07:46] |
| ballen | when did you place it | [07:47] |
| Arenlor | Yesterday morning | [07:47] |
| ballen | hmm usually he gets to it the next night | [07:48] |
| Arenlor | Yeah, hence why I want to make sure it actually got placed and didn't glitch up | [07:49] |
| ballen | well its all of 7:53 AM PST right now (Garry's timezone)
so he's def asleep you may want to email support@arpnetworks.com to open a ticket he'll respond fairly quickly once he sees it | [07:50] |
| Arenlor | Alright | [07:51] |
| ballen | sorry about the delay on getting your VPS
likely hes either waiting for new hardware or is back logged or actually took the day off for the new years | [07:51] |
| Arenlor | Yep, not actually in any rush here, but if the order didn't go through it never will ^_^ | [07:53] |
| ballen | yea
he really should setup some sort of automatic canned email when you put in the order | [07:53] |
| Arenlor | Which reminds me, I should find out if Singularity has updated recently
Nope still 0.30 | [07:54] |
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| up_the_irons | Arenlor: yeah, i got it; didn't drink any coffee last night and what do you know, i passed out ;) | [11:07] |
| toddf | Arlenor: where's the singularity meter? | [11:16] |
| Arenlor | toddf: Singularity is a game
up_the_irons: Ah, too much blood will do that to you. | [11:16] |
| up_the_irons | lol | [11:16] |
| toddf | oh I'm familiar with Singularity from Accelerando i.e. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity | [11:16] |
| Arenlor | http://www.emhsoft.com/singularity/ singularity, one of the best games out there I feel
It's python, and GPL | [11:17] |
| toddf | oh, I've even played that
and won on the easier level of course | [11:17] |
| Arenlor | Hard is the highest I've won. | [11:19] |
| toddf | once you win it gets boring quickly | [11:19] |
| Arenlor | Try the impossible setting. | [11:19] |
| toddf | I've quickly lost at that level
but its been maybe a year since I played that | [11:19] |
| Arenlor | Hard is the highest I've ever beat it on, so now I'm trying impossible.
It takes a whole new strategy. I played the easiest mode for jokes once, beat it in less than 365 days. It's odd that an automated email somehow reminded me of the game. toddf: Do you know of any other games like it? I've played the whole Pandemic series (flash games) | [11:20] |
| toddf | konquest from kdegames seems roughly similar
I love to play that from time to time with all computers against me, can win about 70-80% of the time | [11:25] |
| Arenlor | cool, will have to try it, such a cool genre of games
Takes a lot of thinking, strategy and planning, but you also get a chance to sit back and watch what happens | [11:26] |
| toddf | well, rough is .. you conquer the galaxy taking planets at a time fighting with ships etc .. turn based game .. was fun one christmas with younger cousins
I've not quite found the ideal game, I'd like to find one where you more or less set an algorithm for your player and see what the outcome is, instead of having to do all sorts of manual timed actions s/player/team/etc | [11:27] |
| Arenlor | I seem to remember a website that basically let you do that/required you do that | [11:30] |
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| Hmm can't seem to find it on google. | [11:51] | |
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| up_the_irons | nts: install the static route _AFTER_ changing the prefix-list and ACLs; man, that killed like an hour... | [14:25] |
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| Arenlor | up_the_irons: Are you hungry? | [15:58] |
| up_the_irons | Arenlor: no, why? | [15:58] |
| Arenlor | up_the_irons: My temporary username. Just thought it could be related. | [15:59] |
| up_the_irons | Arenlor: is the key that you sent me an RSA or DSA key? | [15:59] |
| Arenlor | up_the_irons: RSA, thought I had that in the file name ^_^' | [16:00] |
| up_the_irons | nah, not in filename
i like mango's | [16:00] |
| Arenlor | Well crap, what did I add RSA to | [16:01] |
| up_the_irons | heh | [16:03] |
| Arenlor | ah, to the private key! | [16:03] |
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| RandalSchwartz | so - first order of business.. how do I get a VNC console so I can install my OS
if there's a web page about it, I'll be happy to read | [16:27] |
| mike-burns | RandalSchwartz: The fastest way to get a response from up_the_irons is to email support@arpnetworks.com | [16:29] |
| RandalSchwartz | well - I'm asking if other customers might also know. :) | [16:29] |
| mike-burns | He has to create the server for you first. | [16:29] |
| Arenlor | RandalSchwartz VNC seems to be given in the portal.arpnetworks.com
If you go to your service detail | [16:30] |
| RandalSchwartz | I see now, yes.
now to see if I can get chickenofthevnc to connect just beachballs. :( and... timeout ahh - forgot to subtract 5900 from the port | [16:31] |
| Arenlor | eh, you have to substract from the port? | [16:33] |
| RandalSchwartz | yeah
the VNC port in chicken is offset 5900 | [16:33] |
| Arenlor | Some level of security through obscurity? | [16:33] |
| RandalSchwartz | because 5900-5999 are the traditional VNC ports
no simpler than typing 5901 5902 etc just 1 2 3 same way X11 is +6000 6001 6002 | [16:33] |
| Arenlor | ah, so it's enabling, that's cool | [16:34] |
| RandalSchwartz | ok. now I need to know how to boot this machine off the CDROM
this would be easier if I had ever done this physically, I presume :) I see a "login" prompt on the VNC console RandalSchwartz googles "freebsd boot cdrom" ok - that sucks, when I said "shutdown hard" my VNC went away crap - how do I send F12 through VNC? lsdev from the boot interface doesn't show any live CDs | [16:34] |
| aha - got it to boot cdrom
figured out how to send F12 | [16:45] | |
| Arenlor | Mind if I ask how? | [16:46] |
| RandalSchwartz | I had F12 bound to "expose"
I had to disable that for a bit | [16:46] |
| Arenlor | Ah
up_the_irons: I'm happy. | [16:46] |
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| Anyone who knows postgresql, can you tell me if the syntax for the VALID UNTIL timestamp is yyyy-mm-dd or yyyy-dd-mm | [17:33] | |
| toddf | I'd presume that'd be locale dependent, but since it returns select dates by default as YYYY-MM-DD .. | [17:37] |
| jeev | openbsd is not good
;/ | [17:40] |
| toddf | jeev: random statements are meaningless from you, I'm consistent, openbsd is great, .. ;-) | [17:41] |
| jeev | :>
toddf, excuse yourself.. any statement is meaningless from me. | [17:41] |
| Arenlor | cool, well I decided to be smart and set it to either March 1st or tomorrow. | [17:56] |
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| Arenlor | err did California just lose internet? | [18:19] |
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| mike-burns | Did we just lose Internet? | [18:21] |
| mhoran | Yup! | [18:22] |
| Arenlor | Only three of you lost it. | [18:25] |
| RandalSchwartz | can't get my system configured :(
giving up for tonight... too upset now 3 second window to connect VNC and then press F12 is no fun either if there was any way to make that 15 seconds or so, I'd be *very* happy | [18:34] |
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| Arenlor | You guys alright out there? No response on ping? | [18:55] |
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| RandalSchwartz | giving up for the night
really sucks that I can't copy/paste | [18:55] |
| Arenlor | RandalSchwartz: I've always had trouble getting FreeBSD installed on my laptop. | [18:55] |
| RandalSchwartz | I'm gonna try it again on VmWare on my laptop, see if it's something odd I did | [18:55] |
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| toddf | RandalSchwartz: can you make FreeBSD hit the serial console?
that would then permit copy/paste for you also if you use ssvnc instead of krdc or tightvnc you won't get disconnected when the window gets resized if you use the reset option via ssh | [18:55] |
| RandalSchwartz | do any of those run on OSX? | [18:55] |
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| RandalSchwartz | and I don't have serial console access yet | [18:55] |
| toddf | you sent your ssh pubkey to support@ right? | [18:55] |
| RandalSchwartz | not yet | [18:56] |
| up_the_irons2 | RandalSchwartz: Not sure if u got this, but I said:
RandalSchwartz: I've tried to increase that timeout for a long time, but every time i check there is no option; even tried loading a different boot rom | [18:56] |
| RandalSchwartz | just got my machine this afternoon | [18:56] |
| toddf | I'd presume ssvnc should work, it installs a 'vncviewer' binary just like tightvnc | [18:56] |
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| RandalSchwartz | looks like X11.
I hate firing up X11. :) | [18:57] |
| toddf | randalschwartz: I'd send the pubkey whenever you can so it will get setup sooner than later | [18:57] |
| mhoran_ | Ah. | [18:57] |
| RandalSchwartz | up_the_irons2 - is that why the net's been a bit jittery? | [18:57] |
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| mhoran_ | up_the_irons2: That explains why I keep getting disconnected. | [18:57] |
| jeev | anyone have a slashdot acc? need you to bump a friends submission up | [18:57] |
| up_the_irons | RandalSchwartz: yup | [18:58] |
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| up_the_irons | mhoran: indeed | [18:58] |
| RandalSchwartz | well - anyway, the instructions for how to make a root ZFS are *almost* correct, except for a couple of minor things | [18:58] |
| up_the_irons | 5 minute input rate 359076000 bits/sec, 34560 packets/sec
seems to have subsided | [18:59] |
| RandalSchwartz | and after spending two hours getting every step to at least have done something, when I boot now it says "cannot find any zfs partitions"
which is annoying even though if I boot the cdroom again, I can mount and unmount that zfs and it has *all* the right data | [18:59] |
| up_the_irons | RandalSchwartz: can it be done w/ the standard 8.0 IS?
*ISO | [18:59] |
| RandalSchwartz | in theory yes
that's how I was doing it the trick is kldload /mumble/zfs.ko so that the cdrom kernel can build a zfs tree | [19:00] |
| up_the_irons | RandalSchwartz: i've had a couple of reports that this helps: http://mfsbsd.vx.sk/
RandalSchwartz: i c | [19:00] |
| RandalSchwartz | I should probably get a freebsd inside vmware installed tonight too
and if I can get *that* to be zfs /, then I'll know it at least works somewhere. :) | [19:01] |
| up_the_irons | yup :) | [19:01] |
| RandalSchwartz | RandalSchwartz downloads the iso | [19:02] |
| up_the_irons | _someone_ in here has ZFS on root, I just forgot who it was.. LOL | [19:02] |
| Arenlor | up_the_irons: So you up yet, or should I wait some more? | [19:02] |
| up_the_irons | Arenlor: things look fine now. | [19:03] |
| RandalSchwartz | which 8.0-release is that? livefs?
mounted on my machines/ or disk1? or dvd1? or memstick? | [19:04] |
| up_the_irons | RandalSchwartz: it's this: 8.0-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso | [19:05] |
| RandalSchwartz | amd64?
those vm's look like amd64's ? I wonder if that's why it failed I was installing 32bit libs because that's what the instructions said to do | [19:05] |
| up_the_irons | All my vm's are amd64, had problems with i386 and 7.2. | [19:06] |
| RandalSchwartz | ok | [19:06] |
| islandfox | up_the_irons: I've got zfs on root, but with a ufs boot partition | [19:06] |
| up_the_irons | islandfox: ah OK
RandalSchwartz: islandfox did it ^^ :) | [19:07] |
| toddf | islandfox: probably before 8.0 that can do zfs on root eh? | [19:07] |
| RandalSchwartz | ahh - with ufs | [19:07] |
| toddf | er well boot from zfs | [19:07] |
| islandfox | zfs boot seems kind of immature right now | [19:08] |
| RandalSchwartz | it was certainly persnickity to me | [19:08] |
| islandfox | toddf: no, it's a new 8-stable + -current zfs install | [19:08] |
| RandalSchwartz | so after boot, / is ZFS though | [19:08] |
| Arenlor | up_the_irons: How do I change the vnc and serial console passwords? | [19:08] |
| RandalSchwartz | it's just during boot, there's a transition? | [19:08] |
| toddf | sounds like he has kernel and boot blocks on ufs but rootfs on zfs | [19:09] |
| up_the_irons | Arenlor: you can't on your own; you can ask me to do it for you though | [19:09] |
| Arenlor | up_the_irons: Should I just email support? | [19:09] |
| RandalSchwartz | I'm gonna look at the zfsinstall script from mfsbsd
maybe there's a step that was left out of the instructions | [19:09] |
| islandfox | toddf: yes | [19:09] |
| toddf | up_the_irons: request .. let us change our passwords, and let us have an option to not see them when logging into the control panel.. | [19:09] |
| RandalSchwartz | for example, they don't tell how to make the zpool.cache | [19:09] |
| Arenlor | Different slices for /boot and / it would seem? | [19:09] |
| RandalSchwartz | and they also don't say that you need to chflags noschg during install
otherwise it fails | [19:10] |
| up_the_irons | Arenlor: yup, if you feel comfortable. you can always put the password in a file on your vps and i'll login and copy it; then clear text password won't go over email; or use my gpg key (in the headers of all my emails) | [19:10] |
| islandfox | I'm using this setup, pretty much, and am quite happy with it: http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSOnRoot | [19:10] |
| up_the_irons | Arenlor: http://scie.nti.st/pubkey.asc
toddf: email me the request so i have it :) i'm going to grab some food, I'll be on later up_the_irons is over and out | [19:10] |
| RandalSchwartz | Hmm. I'll give it a go | [19:12] |
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| RandalSchwartz | is there any way I could have that mfbsd .iso mounted on my machine? | [19:12] |
| toddf | up_the_irons: will do
randalschwartz: support@ is your ticket to magic tweaks like that typically, you missed up_the_irons by 19s unless he saw your request after he said he was leaving.. *grin* | [19:14] |
| RandalSchwartz | no worries
I presume that's just some vm setting | [19:14] |
| toddf | kvm == qemu in my mind wrt configuring it, cmdline tweak indeed | [19:15] |
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| toddf | I saw your video pasted here a few days back, indeed writing books with the traditional publishers tends to suck wrt income .. have a friend in the city here that self published a book, has his own block of ISBN codes, getting ready to start selling the audio version, too bad people flock to e.g. o'rilley etc otherwise self publishing could put the profit back in book writing ;-( | [19:17] |
| RandalSchwartz | well - *some* profit | [19:17] |
| toddf | (I was a `contributing editor' for `secure architectures with openbsd' aka wrote nearly all of 3 chapters, got $100 total, no expectation of more.. even though it continues to sell today) | [19:18] |
| Arenlor | Yeah, anyone who'd write for O'Reilly is just pure evil | [19:19] |
| RandalSchwartz | oh crap, I can't look inside mfsbsd because it has to be booted to unpack the root filesystem
and now my vmware wants to be upgraded to 3.0.1 damn yak shaving | [19:21] |
| Arenlor | RandalSchwartz: Just use Microsoft, then you wouldn't have to worry about that sort of thing. | [19:23] |
| RandalSchwartz | booting the mfsbsd disk | [19:25] |
| wow - that booted nicely, but it also wanted a distro alongsie to install
looks like there's also a "special edition" which provides a distro | [19:30] | |
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| up_the_irons | bout time i got my nick back | [22:57] |
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| toddf | heh | [23:02] |
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| Arenlor | Blargh tired. How do I setup DNS records? | [23:50] |
| toddf | echo "gimme dns, my dns is ns1.queryme.com" | mail -s "dns for my account" support@arpnetworks.com | [23:57] |
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