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[03:22] <nuke^> morning all
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[09:32] <jeev> can you justify paying your upstream for ipv6 ?
[09:33] <jeev> specially when you're commit to 2gbps
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[10:08] <toddf> I tend to expect bandwidth outside of consumer bandwidth is "justifiable address space included in the price"
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[10:08] <toddf> I was rather miffed years ago when I had a client's colo at he.net and they wanted to charge for v6 as an added revenue stream for them
[10:08] <jeev> o
[10:08] <jeev> ok
[10:08] <jeev> na ipv6 will be free
[10:08] <jeev> i talked them down on cost of ipv4 too
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[11:10] <jeev> what's a good amount of ipv6 to ask for
[11:10] <jeev> i cant even understand the subnetting lol
[11:10] <toddf> are you going to be an ISP?
[11:10] <jlgaddis> end users should get /64s
[11:10] <toddf> sites get /48's
[11:10] <jlgaddis> if they only need one subnet
[11:11] <toddf> you should put a /64 on each ethernet segment
[11:12] <jeev> "sites" eh
[11:12] <jeev> i wonder if my switch even supports ipv6, bah
[11:12] <toddf> if it does ethernet it should
[11:12] <jlgaddis> it should support switching
[11:12] <toddf> to switches that have no clue v6 is just multicast and then a different ethernet packet
[11:12] <jlgaddis> routing... maybe, maybe not, depends on the switch
[11:13] <toddf> or admining via v6, not so much with older switches
[11:14] <jeev> ok cool
[11:14] <jeev> i host a lot of sites
[11:14] <jeev> a /64 supports 18446744073709552000
[11:14] <jeev> that many ips ?
[11:15] <jlgaddis> 2^64
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[11:40] <jeev> can't i get anything smaller ? heh
[11:53] <jlgaddis> use /64's
[11:53] <jlgaddis> it makes things easier
[11:54] <jeev> yep
[11:54] <jeev> no need for a /48
[11:54] <jeev> i dont want to be subnetting stuff
[12:52] <up_the_irons> jeev: if you only need one subnet, you will want a /64.  Nothing smaller, nothing bigger.
[12:52] <up_the_irons> cd $coffee
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[16:51] <jeev> ok
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[20:50] <ballen> gawd damnit stuck in ABQ
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