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   nuke^: morning all
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   jeev: can you justify paying your upstream for ipv6 ?
   <br> specially when you're commit to 2gbps
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   toddf: I tend to expect bandwidth outside of consumer bandwidth is "justifiable address space included in the price"
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   toddf: I was rather miffed years ago when I had a client's colo at he.net and they wanted to charge for v6 as an added revenue stream for them
   jeev: o
   <br> ok
   <br> na ipv6 will be free
   <br> i talked them down on cost of ipv4 too
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   jeev: what's a good amount of ipv6 to ask for
   <br> i cant even understand the subnetting lol
   toddf: are you going to be an ISP?
   jlgaddis: end users should get /64s
   toddf: sites get /48's
   jlgaddis: if they only need one subnet
   toddf: you should put a /64 on each ethernet segment
   jeev: "sites" eh
   <br> i wonder if my switch even supports ipv6, bah
   toddf: if it does ethernet it should
   jlgaddis: it should support switching
   toddf: to switches that have no clue v6 is just multicast and then a different ethernet packet
   jlgaddis: routing... maybe, maybe not, depends on the switch
   toddf: or admining via v6, not so much with older switches
   jeev: ok cool
   <br> i host a lot of sites
   <br> a /64 supports 18446744073709552000
   <br> that many ips ?
   jlgaddis: 2^64
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   jeev: can't i get anything smaller ? heh
   jlgaddis: use /64's
   <br> it makes things easier
   jeev: yep
   <br> no need for a /48
   <br> i dont want to be subnetting stuff
   up_the_irons: <u>jeev</u>: if you only need one subnet, you will want a /64.  Nothing smaller, nothing bigger.
   <br> cd $coffee
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   jeev: ok
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   ballen: gawd damnit stuck in ABQ
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