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ping agin
again *
o.o jeev: oh god
who let the troll in, arf arf ar far af Dougy: aha
i had /me waits for jeev to say something typed in jeev: scratch that, i hate people who use the term troll, it's lame to use the word troll
huh Dougy: i knew you were gonna say something
i had -: Dougy waits for jeev to say something rude Dougy: typed
just didnt hi tenter
hit enter * jeev: ah
uh huh
brb Dougy: meh, up_the_irons, emailed you jeev: eh ***: ballen is now known as ballen|away
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she had a cute ass laugh
what 32 year old dies from a heart attack
they probably slipped her a pill, some blackwater shit ***: heavysixer has quit IRC ()
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ChanServ sets mode: +o ballen jeev: they're gonna pass teh bill
i'm glad.
the bill ballen: which bill jeev: health care
i desperately hope america's health care is converted to socialism ballen: hmm jeev: if they dont want to socialize anything else, that's fine. ballen: either way jeev: you know it's a piece of shit country when all they care about is profitting off people not getting treatment ballen: national health care would be nice as it would cover some people that need to be covered... bad because my income taxes are going to go up jeev: did your taxes go up or down during bush ? ballen: lmao
no jeev: you got a big ass rebate, right?
then deficit, and all the bullshit money spent on the war ballen: meh
rebates are retarded jeev: you need to get your prorioties straight ballen: hey I'm all about saving money, i.e. stopping the war jeev: health care needs to be socialized and revamped.
the true reason why we lack jobs is because health care is too expensive for companies. ballen: I have access to good insurance though... so I'm not really worried about it jeev: i have good insurance too but what if i get something?
what if they deny me? what if they cut my insurance ? ballen: yea agreed, theres an issue jlgaddis: the whole "pre-existing condition" fucks a lot of people jeev: it's not even pre-existing condition jlgaddis: have a job & insurance, something happens, lose job. get new job, new insurance company says "no" because of pre-existing condition. ballen: Insurance companies are generally the most scumbag companies in existing jeev: but just passing pre-existing conditions, i HOPE that happens
it's not fair ballen: existence*
so jlgaddis: jeev: that's been an issue around here w/ lots of manufacturing jobs lost. (some) people have gotten new jobs, but they're now fucked when it comes to insurance.
ballen: agreed ballen: you think a national health care is going to be any different though... just slower and more bureaucratic
highly inefficient organization just by its nature and size jeev: look, it's slow change
if it doesn't help us, it will help others
the beginning is always difficult. ballen: government is not the way to do big business
trust me jeev: this health care thing is going to be the biggest gift to the people of this country ballen: i work for the gov't
the gov't sucks at big business jeev: ballen, then consider yourself part of the issue because you dont do your best to change things
i'd rather have the government handle that than insurance companies ballen: then you've never had to deal with gov't organizations on a normal basis
gov't workers are overpaid first of all
and with any huge organization there are huge disconnects between each level
although... knowing someone thats worked in IT of an insurance company
its not much different jeev: we need socialized health care
full socialized health care ballen: why jeev: because, suffering shouldn't be profittable ballen: agreed
but how is the governement going to A, afford it, B manage it
if money wasn't an issue
I'd agree
everyone should have great healthcare jeev: soon, we'll be out of the war. ballen: sure... for a few years
then there will be somewhere else
some other country or group the US has an issue with
the military industry demands it jeev: http://www.snopes.com/quotes/goering.asp
that is what i think about war.
and what has happened in the past decade
i think it was all bullshit and manufactured. ballen: of course it was
it always is
its just people
people you are in power
but just people jeev: wow, jew lieberman voted yes
i mean joe.
the asshole.
i want to make a phone call to a senator ballen: let me know how that goes jeev: if i can catch them in the office, convince the receptionist to let me speak to them
i'll be more effective than obama ballen: unlikely
as hell jeev: not too unlikely ballen: highly
unlikely jeev: i'd go up to this senator and talk to him, man to man
the only thing that makes it difficult is that im from iran.. well born there but i'm armenian. ballen: he or she will bullshit you jeev: and we all know.
they passed
passed the senate ballen: so now it needs to goto the house? jeev: how funny
mccain was born in panama
on a military base lol ballen: US Territory at the time jeev: it isn't the 50 contiguous
anyway, yea i think it has to go to house now ballen: doesn't matter
yea
it won't make it through the house jeev: how you figure ballen: at least in any form that is goes in
the house has many more people
as such
takes much more to make everyone happy jeev: hope it passes.. but it's only a matter of time before cheney and his friends or whoever did the last one comes up with a new one. ballen: Goering's points ring very true jeev: looks like the next 20 years will be plagued by conspiracy
thanks to fox news and the term patriotism ballen: heh jeev: 'patriotism is the virtue of the vicious' -oscar wilde
i just wonder who's next, after muslims. ballen: hmm
well jeev: lets put bets on the table ballen: just look at the US and what country/culture they have screwed in the last 20/30 years
few in South America
Indonesia jeev: i dont think we'll ever go to south america. ballen: you don't remember Panama jeev: i mean future. ballen: and 10 years ago... would you of said I don't think we'll goto the middle east?
lots of oil in South America jeev: religion.
the hatred of muslims has always been there by americans, because of israel. ballen: I suppose there has been a history the last 30-40 years yes
Iran-Contra affair and all
OPEC cutting off oil jeev: iran is a touchy situation
i like ahmadinejad.. but i think he's playing his cards wrong ballen: he I'd say he should keep him and his country off the radar
yea* jeev: he could become a more popular guy if he loosens it a little
i however do know why he is doing what he is doing ballen: agreed
whys that jeev: he realizes that israel has taken the mid east, they have access everywhere and in their eyes (and mine) they're terrible people (at least the zionists)
and he dosen't want iran to be taken over by them.
you may not want to believe my thoughts but.. just think about it outside the box and the bull that they give you here
and try to understand who the real issue is in the mid-east.
i dont blame you for not saying anything, most people dont want to talk about it
although i do blame, whatever. ballen: well in my opinion
there will always been an issue
in the middle east due to religion jeev: why ? vxp: jesus christ shut up ballen: plus people being in shitty conditions
vxp, please be polite jeev: just put him on ignore vxp: plus peoblalhalbahbalbah HOL FUCKING KIKE SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU WORTHLESS OVERPRIVILEGED SLAB OF BOURGEOIS BEREFT OF AN OPINION jeev: ballen, i think everything begins with the expansion of israel and the eviction of palestinians. vxp: ballen: please be polite by ending your life you cunt ***: ballen sets mode: -v vxp vxp: emodevoice ballen: k ignored vxp: christ i hate you all ***: vxp has quit IRC ("<shani> brb my dad's eggs are ready") jeev: http://www.sott.net/image/image/s1/22233/full/israel_palestine_map.jpg
that's what iran wants to prevent. ballen: any idea if vxp is a ARP user? jeev: i doubt it ballen: seems like I've seen him around jeev: he's probably a spy from some other provider
yea he's only given stupid comments
i know i give retarded comments but i've never ever seen him say anything good ballen: well theres no reason to be a troll like that jeev: what do you think about that map ballen: seems like a valid reason
I think most of it comes down to entitlement, and polarization between people of different religions
then combined with people living in substandard conditions jeev: ballen, there's a lot of reading you could do when it comes to the mid-east, stuff that you dont see on american tv. amdprophet: wow, what was up with that vxp guy? ballen: no idea
guess hes not a fan of light debate amdprophet: yea it would seem that way ballen: I know Garry mentioned there was trolls that came through here once and a while
hence why he made a number of us Ops amdprophet: jealous competition?? ;) ballen: though I really thought Vxp was a customer
and why I just devoiced him and didn't kick him -: ballen shrugs amdprophet: i would have done the same thing ballen: on a much lighter note, Burts Bees - Honey Lip Balm is amazing amdprophet: haha awesome ballen: live in a very dry area, chap stick is much needed amdprophet: where abouts? ballen: New Mexico amdprophet: oh wow, you're way down there ballen: oh ya amdprophet: i'm up in vancouver canada ballen: waaay up there
;-) amdprophet: haha ***: visinin has quit IRC ("sleep")